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I'm so upset- fucking git.

217 replies

NearlySpring · 04/09/2011 14:14

Actually he's not, he's sweet and lovely but I think I needed to get that out my system. He's upset me so much.

You may have read my last thread, basically very old friend back on scene, met up once and ended up kissing and having lovely time but he said afterwards "not comfortable going down that road as you're not long out of a relationship" we have text back and forth every day since and he asked me to meet him again. I have been unsure if he likes me as more than a friend and asked here that very question. Most of you said it sounds like he's interested in me so Ive felt confident about meeting him last night. I asked if he wanted dinner and drinks and a movie at mine and gave him the option to go out for meal and drink instead but he said he'd like to come to mine.

So he came over last night. We had wine in the garden and lots of chatting and laughing. We had dinner then moved onto my little sofa for a film. We had candles on and it was all lovely. He's a real gent and very shy and I decided to wait for him to make a move first so I knew how he was thinking in terms of us being any more than friends. He put his arm around me and pulled me close to rest my head on his shoulder (sorry it's all a bit soppy). We were sober, had only shared a bottle of wine over a few hours so it wasn't a drunken move. We sat like this for an hour or so and he was stroking my arm and hand the whole time. Then for the second half of the film
he half laid down and I cuddled up next to him and we were messing around tickling each other and generally being flirty.

(if you made it this far without vomitting then thank you..)

So we both sat up at the end of the film and had a "moment" he smiled a cheesy smile and our faces were real close. We had a peck and then I put my hand on his shoulder and went for a snog and he pulled away. :( I was shocked as he'd been instigating the touchy-feely ness the whole night. He said to me he really likes me but doesnt feel that way about me and he would feel uncomfortable kissing and giving me the wrong impression as he doesn't feel we could have a relationship that would work. Well I wanted to cry, and just couldn't understand as his words and actions suggest the total opposite. I had been very sure to make sure it was him not me that was making the moves.

I decided not to let it spoil the evening and we sat in the dark chatting after the film finished. He turned the tv off and I asked why and he said he thought it's nice just to sit in the dark and quiet and chat together. He pulled me close for a cuddle then we had a little mess around tickling and acting like silly teenagers. We starting drinking more and got quite tipsy. So by the end of the evening we sat giggling with him laying on the sofa on his back and me sat "over him" Our hands up each others tops stroking arms and backs and being sensual but not necessarily sexual. This went on for well over two hours! But still no kissing. Sorry if tmi but I did t notice he had an erection quite a bit so I guess it's not because he doesnt find me attractive that he's behaving this way.

Then it was time for him to go and we had a cuddle and said goodbye. He text as soon as he was home and said that he had a lovely evening.

I'm so confused. He's not the sort of guy that is just after sex, he made no sexual advance toward me me just lovely touching and stroking etc. Of course last time we met we kissed lots and this time apart from him telling me he didn't see us being able to have a realtionship all his words and actions suggest otherwise. I really cannot think of a reason for these "mixed signals" and it's really quite upsetting. I'm totally smitten with this guy and we've loosely made arrangements to meet again in about 10 days time when he gets back from his business trip. We have so much in common
and before we lost touch before we had a few dates and always had quite a connection.

I saw him this morning at a group that we're both members of and he was his usual sweet self. He text me before we got there and said "I'm up and will be there but Im very tired" I replied "Im not to blame, you chose to stay up late! :)" and he said "don't tell tales, it was your fault! :)"

I need to step away and forget about him don't I? :(

OP posts:
chris123456 · 04/09/2011 20:25

Your welcome NS and good luck - I really hope you find what you're looking for - but do talk!

plantsitter · 04/09/2011 20:26

Sorry I've been lurking but this guy has really pissed me off (like others, have met this one before).

Basically it's one of two things.

  1. He's being a cock.
  2. He IS a cock.

Either way, I think you should tell him you're angry with him because he's messed you about and you don't want to see him any more, on any terms. If he is just BEING a cock he will make every effort to stop being one and win you round. If he just IS a cock, well, you don't have to see him again. Win win.

EricNorthmansMistressOfPotions · 04/09/2011 20:35

He sounds awful. He completely played you, wound you up, promised things with his behaviour that he then withdrew with no warning. Led you on, twisted your head and heart all around then withdrew with some bullshit little excuse about not wanting to - what? Lead you on? Is he fucking kidding? Nose rubbing and hair stroking and cuddles all night - what a fucking twat. There are a few options here -

  1. He's in a relationship and is cheating without 'cheating'
  2. He's on an ego trip and likes knowing you want him but doesn't actually want you
  3. He's into humiliating women by leading them on then pulling the rug out. I can't see any other alternative. None of them make him a very nice person.
chris123456 · 04/09/2011 20:38

No projecting then?

dreamingbohemian · 04/09/2011 21:20

Er, no, not projecting Hmm

I'm not saying he's abusive or a wanker, obviously I don't know him, but he is clearly playing games with the OP -- either intentionally or not, but it doesn't matter really. There's no point going forward with someone playing games, you're just setting yourself up for a roller coaster of drama and bullshit.

So sure, go ahead and talk to him about it. I just don't see the point, he hasn't been able to talk to you straight thus far.

MigratingCoconuts · 04/09/2011 21:31

Its enought that Op feels this shitty and wound up. Good friendships do not leave you feeling as though you have been emotionally kicked in the stomach.

Chris, he may be really really lovely Hmm but he is harming OP, and that is enough to warrant the advice given here.

This friendship is toxic

babyhammock · 04/09/2011 21:44

Migratingcoconuts..exactly!
If it looks like a duck etc..

He's making OP feel crap... he is crap and not a true friend. He has clearly not got her best interests at heart.

NearlySpring · 04/09/2011 22:45

Oh bugger it, I text him. :( I know he'll be home soon and will get my text. I've been sat here telling my bestmate all about it and she was horrified I wasnt going to question his behaviour directly.

I said:

"James, you've always been a good friend but I have to say last nights events have really upset me. We had such a nice evening and you were the one instigating all the flirting and cuddles etc. It was very nice but then you saying to me that we couldn't have a relationship and we shouldnt kiss to then go on with the physical touching etc has really left me confused. It feels like you're saying one thing and doing the exact opposite. I need to know why, I need some answers because this is really getting to me. I cnt see how we can keep meeting up and stay friends if you're not interested in a relationship unless we set some serious boundaries. NearlySpring xx"

Was that ok? I didn't call as didn't want to put him on the spot. I want him to read this a few times and have a think and give me a clear and honest answer.

OP posts:
babyhammock · 04/09/2011 22:52

Its really hard resisting temptation!
OK anything less than a clear and honest answer (i.e if you're left feeling even more confused that is not a clear and honest answer) then dump him, he is not a friend.

You're too nice!!

HotBurrito1 · 04/09/2011 23:04

Having read your previous thread I thought you'd contact him. You are giving him a chance to explain himself as you consider him a friend.

I'd say that is generous of you, but there is a (slim) chance of a rational explanation for all of this bizarre behaviour. As others have said, the merest whiff of that nonsense again and I'd break off all contact -as he isn't really a friend.

electra · 04/09/2011 23:09

He sounds like a weirdo. Very very odd behaviour indeed - I don't think there's any point trying to figure him out either.

haveigotnewsforyou · 04/09/2011 23:17

Oh god, get rid!

This bloke is a walking talking twot. Why waste any more time on him? Surely, you aren't that desperate OP?!

jasper · 04/09/2011 23:25

Quite right to text , and well worded , OP

MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 23:35

I had a thing with a man VERY similar...gentle, caring....lovely....turns out he was gay. He just couldn't accept it in his own mind. He would also be sensual and strokey...no sex though....he came out a year after got rid of him.

MadameOvary · 04/09/2011 23:37

I predict a charming but useless reply where he says he feels awful and didn't mean to lead you on. But no other progress whatsoever.

Hope I'm wrong and he stops being a twat and treats you with some respect. However, as he wants to be a friend and you want a level of emotional involvement he clearly isnt capable of, I dont see this ending well.

I've been where you are, so i know it's pointless telling you to walk away. Whatever happens, you will hopefully learn from it.

BobBanana · 04/09/2011 23:39

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MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 23:41

He's gay I tell you! Sorry OP...I just think he sounds SO much like my own ex...well..it was a non relationship really...lasted a couple of months.

LeBOF · 04/09/2011 23:46

Do you have any really really good male friends, Bob, that you used to know as a teenager, presumably lost touch with and have met up again with lately? And if you do, do you stroke them under their tops?

My arse.

NearlySpring · 04/09/2011 23:47

Fuck. I do think he could be gay. The more I think of it the more it seems to have been screaming in my face.

Well he replied and said "was so lovely last night, Im sorry if I led you on, I just don't want a relationship with you. We should meet up again soon"

Cockhead! :(

OP posts:
electra · 04/09/2011 23:49

If there is a healthy attraction everything happens as its supposed to - there is not a pantomime like this. You will be able to find someone who escalates things appropriately. I've been notoriously bad at spotting losers but I could never ever be with a man who didn't want to have sex with me.

electra · 04/09/2011 23:50

cockhead indeed!

LeBOF · 04/09/2011 23:50

Yes, gay, I would assume. But not much of a prospect even as a friend- he has treated you very shabbily.

dreamingbohemian · 04/09/2011 23:51

Well there's your answer. He's INSANE.

I'm so sorry. I know it must hurt but try not to take it personally, honestly he sounds like a complete lunatic.

pamplemousserose · 04/09/2011 23:57

I went out with a born again virgin Christian guy at University. He dumped me cause I was too much of a temptation . But he was like this went so far then stopped himself.

MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 23:59

Yes....he's gay and not out....causes a multitude of problems for others...and for him of course. his religion may have something to do with his problems accepting it...delete his number. Sorry OP.