The Brave Babes Carry On Past The Easter Booze Offers.

[NotTheMessiahJustMouseface]

Hello,

I'm Mouse, well, I am usually!

Welcome to the Brave Babes Bus.

This is a journey of sobriety, started almost a year ago by the wonderful jesuswhatnext. So why not come aboard and find a seat. There's heaps of support on here whether you are sober, drinking or somewhere in the middle.

And, for those of you who want a bit of history, here are the Previous Threads

I would love to recount my story on here - if that's ok with everyone, i will do so some time soon. I hope it may help others. That really is one of my favourite things about AA hearing other peoples journeys, so inspiring and so similar in many ways!

I'm not bitter at all - quite the reverse. I spent years trying so hard to be like people who could just have one or two. I finally realised I couldn't and that allowed me to stop.

Then I realised something even better. I HAD NEVER REALLY WANTED TO BE LIKE THEM! I have NO interest in being a social drinker - it is not something I understand or admire. The logic is hard-wired into my brain (and I maintain that it IS logical, it is alcohol itself which is illogical) - if one drink makes me feel good, then two drinks must logically make me feel twice as good, and so forth; so why stop until people or circumstances make me? I can remember (just) before the physical craving took hold of me, in my late teens. Why didn't I stop then after one or two? Answer - because I wanted to drink lots.

That realisation means that not only do I know I cannot drink safely, but I remember that I have no desire to drink like other people.

If anyone could come up with a way to drink 8 pints a night, not get hungover or ill, not do or say silly things, wake up looking great and live to 80, then maybe I'd be interested. But drink two glasses of Pimms and then stop voluntarily? No thanks.

whats the phrase? 'one's too many, 100's not enough'. That sums it up sadly.

Just as an aside, have you all seen the union jack flags across the MN logo? Seems there is no escaping the media hype or the wedding itself.

This time last year, the royal wedding would have been just the excuse I'd have needed for an extended weekend of drinking. It would have started this afternoon, or early evening, then ended very messily on Monday evening.

Mind you, I'd celebrate the opening of an envelope if it meant having a drink at that point in my life.

whats this wanky '2 glasses of pimms' idea then? make it a couple of jugs and i might be interested! , dont worry too much about the bloody greenery in it either, soaks up the booze! see, like miflaw, i will never be a 'social drinker', i could be a bloody unsociable one though!

seriously, i cannot describe how relived i feel in having stepped off that merry-go-round!

like just about everyone else on here, i have sat and cried with relif that someone 'out there' understands how i feel - i still find that most days i have a fleeting thought that i fancy a drink, im so relived that miflaw taught me to 'see the film through to the end', it has kept me safe and sober hundreds of times!, see, my sober days are actually in the hundreds now , INCREDIBLE!!

merlin is right, its exhuasting to try and keep drinking at the levels we do and still function like a 'normal' person! dont get me wrong, being sober is not a magic ticket to a perfect life, but it honestly does make life so much easier!

Well lovely ladies, heading home after hard days work, hope everyone has a lovely peaceful and sober evening :)

God, I feel thick - jesus your post has really made the penny drop for me! I do not want to be a social drinker either. That's why I spent most of the last year's drinking on my own, making sure everyone was out with two or three bottles of white wine hidden away. I wanted to get very drunk, all on my own with no disturbance, no-one to talk to, no children to deal with. Seriously, that is the reality, and had been for a while thinking back. I honestly hadn't thought of it that way. It's so clear now - the compulsion not the sociability. Absolute bloody insanity!

Please help.

For two days I've been going nuts. At first I thought I could deal with it, thought it was teenage crap, but now I'm not so sure.

I found online posts made by my 14yr old daughter that alluded (none to subtly) to her having tried heroin.

I've spoken to my sponsor, but I'm really bloody struggling.

She has form for taking drugs, btw. (weed, ketamine, E). I can't confront her, this is why: She uses a site called Tumblr, whenever she realises that we (me and her dad) are watching her page she makes a new one, I only saw the recent posts because I let her use my laptop one day without logging out of my user account, so it saved the 'most used pages' to my internet usage page. If I ask her about it she will simply open another account and be more careful about being caught out.

I want a drink so badly I would probably sell my own dead mother to get one.

Oh God, that really is awful. First of all DON'T HAVE A DRINK! You need to tlak to someone about this - rubbish timing with a bank holiday weekend I know! Could you call NA - I believe they have a sort of similar group like al-anon for friends and families? Sorry if you already know about this kind of thing but here is the national number anyway: 0300 999 12 12. Or a local drug agency?? Sorry to be of such little help but please don't drink - have a coffee, a tea, a fag (if you smoke)! I hope someone comes along with more advice than me. xx

Golly

Don't. Just don't do it.

And, FWIW, I don't think you should confront her when you are feeling so low and wobbly about it all.

Take a step back from the situation. What can you do tonight to change things? Seriously, what?

Well, you could get wasted and pass out not remembering why or you could not. No-one can make that decision fo ryou I'm afraid, but I can assure you, it will be 200 times worse if you drink.

You need real support with this, from drug counsellors, young/youth drug workers, that sort of thing.

Can you look it up? Or speak to your GP.

Don't get me wrong, I was a huge fan of coke, E's and trips when I was in my early 20's. But 14 is a scary age to start using heroin.

Do you have any proof?

Please, Golly - take a step back. You are emotionally attatched here sweets, you need a clear and level head to deal with this.

Are you alone?

HERE is one place to look

I go search for more, hang in there Golly xx

And try FRANK too.

Another thought is that if your DD is posting about this openly on a forum? Is that what it is? It could all be a bit of bravado.

It's an option even though she's got form.

Has anything changed recently? At home? At school? Boy/girlfriend issues? Bullying? Is there anything that you can put your finger on Golly?

Sorry to bombard you, just trying to help.

Sorry, I need to go. MIL is here and dinner is ready, I'll try pop back later. xx

Argh. I'm falling apart.

I can't work out if she's a heroin user or if her ex boyfriend is posting shite online about her.

Christ on a bike, this is shite, she's 14. I know her, I work in a medical field. I see the eventual diagnosis (schizophrenia) but no-one will help or intervene. I have no idea if this is because they cannot or will not do anything. In the meantime I have to live with a violent teenager who might at any time burn me and the rest of my family to the ground (she has form for this kind of thing)

I don't know what to do to make things better. Each time things get really bad I call CAMHS (I have specific people to talk to, who are so busy they rarely have the time to talk), they all think I'm the nutter for suggesting that a 14yr old who hears voices is somehow in need of more help that she can get at home.

Oh Golly I have NO idea what to suggest other than the organisations others have mentioned. Can you talk to dd directly, to other members of the family?
shit, don't know what to say.

things still tricky here for me, but getting by with the help from good friends. mouse thanks for the pm
Am drinking wine tonight, I must confess, but it's been a shit of a week and will probably get worse. DH bought the wine for me and has had a shave - this is the prelude to "making up". Boy, is he in for another disappointment....
On the plus side I have lost another 2 lbs
I am now dead on X stone. which means I only have to lose one more pound to be Y stone something instead of X stone something. It will sound so much better

Hi Golly et al, I hope things are looking a bit brighter or at least a new day will bring some better things for you all.

Just to let youknow won't be posting for a while. It all blew up last night big time. it's over. Either H or I will move out, don't know who or where or how or what we're going to live on but hey ho. Such is life.
Will update soon and pm/gmail folks. Am a little scared right now, hope he doesn't lose it with me...
Don't quite know where to begin.
Anyone want a matching pair of wedding rings - only used for the last 24 years

Ma:( don't really know what to say other than take real good care of yourself and post when you can. As I said many threads back (when I was desire) your marriage reminds me so much of how mine was. Sending brave thoughts to you.

Golly my thoughts are with you too, have no words of wisdom.

Again with the flipping bold, sorry

Where is everyone? You all at the wedding?

I'm here Obrigada, you okay?

Ma - you know where I am sweets.

golly - how are things with you today and DD? Did you look at any of the sites I posted, did you find anything I posted helpful?

Hiya Mouse:) am ok, on Day 4 here so happy with that. Sleep still shit but won't die from lack of it as Miflaw says:) How are things with you?

Good. I think, my pain is bad today and not helped by Nemo falling out of his new bed at 4am. Even though he has a huge bed guard, he managed to wriggle through a small gap at the end of the bed and land on the floor

He stayed asleep. If he was awake, he'd have hurt himself.

Well done on four days!