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The Brave Babes Carry On Past The Easter Booze Offers.

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NotTheMessiahJustMouseface · 13/04/2011 14:34

Hello,

I'm Mouse, well, I am usually!

Welcome to the Brave Babes Bus. Smile

This is a journey of sobriety, started almost a year ago by the wonderful jesuswhatnext. So why not come aboard and find a seat. There's heaps of support on here whether you are sober, drinking or somewhere in the middle.

And, for those of you who want a bit of history, here are the Previous Threads

OP posts:
jesuswhatnext · 28/04/2011 10:20

morning!

you sound a bit brighter qo! Smile - i think cleaning up the house is a very good idea!, i think if you have a clean and comfy home it all helps the ease the mind, if everywhere is muddled i think it kind of feeds a muddled mind iyswim?

im so cold here i have just gone and put some socks on! where has the sun gone?

right, im off to take my own medicine and clean up my house! Grin

see you later babes!

changelingforthis · 28/04/2011 10:20

I had some sleeping tablets for a short while. They did work - and I had no trouble after then getting off to sleep. It's basically rewiring your brain to let your body sleep naturally and not just 'pass out' sort of thing through alcohol!

obrigada · 28/04/2011 10:25

I think for me as well it's a combination of messy home and a lot of other worries I have that is keeping me awake if I am to be honest!

MIFLAW · 28/04/2011 10:30

BTW trying to track down the Bristol poster for whoever was asking ...

MIFLAW · 28/04/2011 10:36

Obrigada

Outside of a Burmese PoW camp, no one ever died of lack of sleep.

Lots of people die of alcohol every day - and some of them are very ordinary people like you and me.

Stay with it, you are almost certainly over the worst now.

MIFLAW · 28/04/2011 10:38

BTW I meant that to say, "you are doing really well," but somehow forgot to type that ...

Mouseface · 28/04/2011 10:42

Just quickly before I go catch up - non-sleepers

You are in need of a gentle nudge in the right direction. I recommend Boots own sleeping tablets. They do a 2 a night or 1 a night version. You can also get herbal sleep aids.

And that's all it needs to be, an aid to sleeping.

Your body is used to sleeping because of the drink and now it's all out of sync. Try something like that for a week, and a good bedtime routine, bath, clean PJs, book, bed...... lots of time to wind down and see how you get on?

Right, off to catch up xxx

obrigada · 28/04/2011 10:45

Strangely enough Miflaw, I told myself the same thing last night . . (about not dying through lack of sleep)

"Well, I can only speak for myself, but personally I drank it because it "destressed me" (i.e. got me drunk) without driving me mad like white cider does, disappearing too quickly like spirits do, or keeping me pissing and taking too long to work like beer does!"

You summed it perfectly *Miflaw":):)

piebald · 28/04/2011 10:46

I fell off the bus abit a the beginnibg there but have just had 2 days with only one small beer in each. I need to change my routines, i find it very hard to cook tea without a glass in hand and then i carry on .so i am trying to have food prepared ahead and then go out for a walk straight afterwards
Keep it up girls it is so hard but worth it

qo · 28/04/2011 10:56

I'm with you on the sleep fron obrigada, I can't seem to lie down and close my eyes as thats when all the thoughts run through my head and the anxiety shoots back up = no sleep. Messy house also, I've been on the sofa since saturday night as my bedroom's such a tip I don't even want to look in it, never mind sleep in it.(have got dd back in her room though)

I've just decided to do a little royal wedding party for me and dd tomorrow, I'm not a royalist and not really that interested but I thought it might be something fun for her, so I've just done an asda shop.

As I was checking out it came up with "have you forgotten something?" we notice that you usually buy the following items.. and the first on the list was a box of wine. I didn't buy it, I got 4 x appleade instead.

This is the end of the line for me, I thought I was at rock bottom when I very first joined the thread, but obviously I wasn't as I still carried on.

This time it's different, I came so close to losing everything I care about, how people have still stuck by me is beyond me (well one has washed her hands of me, but I totally understand why) how I've still got dd with me is a mircale. I just cannot risk this any longer. And besides the risk, I just don't want to live like that anymore, I've had enough.

changelingforthis · 28/04/2011 11:07

Bloody brilliant not getting the wine qo - We've been invited next door for a small 'party'. They're a young couple with a new baby and really sweet. He said 'there will be Pimms' in a 'won't that be great' voice and it got me a bit, but i shall toddle along with my shloer or fruitina or whatever and if i feel upset will come home again! I too have come close to losing it all, I just have to remember that and be strong. I would die if I lost my family, and, having worked for years with alcoholics have seen too much of it - although of course I wasn't 'like them' Wink hmmm!

obrigada · 28/04/2011 11:11

Well done Qoon not ordering the wine and what a lovely idea about tomorrow, we can do this together Qo!

obrigada · 28/04/2011 11:12

My turn with the mad bolding :):)

todayistheday · 28/04/2011 11:16

Tuesday I did not have a drink.

Yesterday I had a glass and a half

Today I hope not to drink

Your posts are inspirational babes (and MFILAW)

I have been to doctors re being so low. His answer - stop drinking and maybe the ADs will work better.

Mouseface · 28/04/2011 11:18

Whoops, ignore my 'YOU ALL NEED SLEEPERS' post! They worked for me the first few nights but ARE NOT a long term fix, as changeling says, you re-train your body and brain to switch off, without the aid of ANYTHING!

Morning all.

Ma - Your post has worried me. I've replied to your message, you know where I am xx

qo - so, what's your plan now? Love the idea of a party for you and DD. Great stuff! Are you going to take it ODAAT? You know that you'll have unconditional support here, don't you? Fab post. So much better agai today. Smile

pie - keep trying, a step at a time. You'll soon find what works for you, be that having to stop altogether or just cutting down. Keep going! Smile

Well, rubbish night here, no sleep as Nemo is full of conjestion yet again, so was up and down all night. Poor little chap can't breathe Sad

So, my back is killing me, the morphine isn't touching the pain, MIL is on her way so I've been trying to tidy and clear up sick...... Nemo has lost 2 feeds already today.

It's going to be a long one I think! May hobble out for some frresh air later. Will do us both the world of good. Smile

Mouseface · 28/04/2011 11:23

Today - well done on cutting down.

And, your GP is right. It's not that one counteracts the other so much, it's the side effects of doing both that are dangerous.

Can I ask what you are on? Don't feel you have to say. Smile

I'm pleased that you don't plan to drink today, but hope alone won't get you there. I don't mean that in a nasty way, I hope not to drink today... we all do. But you have to want to not drink.

Come on....... say it outloud! Type it in bold.............

"TODAY I WILL NOT BE DRINKING!"

Sermon over. Grin

MIFLAW · 28/04/2011 11:39

"He said 'there will be Pimms' in a 'won't that be great' voice and it got me a bit" - remember, he means, "won't it be fun, we'll be so daring we'll have two glasses each and feel tiddly!" I don't think drinking is big or clever (though I used to) but frankly I pity saps like that.

For a while, when people asked me, "why don't you drink?" I used to say, "I'm having a break to let the rest of you catch up!" And it's true - what most people describe as "drinking" or getting drunk I would describe as "a total fucking waste of time."

Yet they're right and I'm wrong. What they do IS social drinking. What I do is get slaughtered and then go down the back of the sofa to find the cash for one more can. So, if I can't drink like I want to, I'm much better off not drinking at all, for everyone's sake.

I still feel a bit embarrassed for people like your neighbour though - they put me in mind of 10-year-olds who are all excited because their mum's letting them stay up late to watch a film rated 12.

changelingforthis · 28/04/2011 12:14

They are a bit like that - bless em! he's a computer boff and she's a primary teacher and they are very 'sweet'.

Isindebetterplace · 28/04/2011 12:27

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changelingforthis · 28/04/2011 12:30

Or in some strange blokes bed with nothing on ...or at the side of the road in a pile of stinging nettles...or..come downstairs to find the front room trashed and ask 'WHO THE HELL DID THIS' with a small voice saying 'you did mummy'..or had the police turn up as they've called them hysterically to say their dh is hitting them when actually he was stopping them from trying to smash their head against a wall Blush. God, I hate my past life!

changelingforthis · 28/04/2011 12:31

sorry that sounded really self pitying. I didn't intend to go that far!

qo · 28/04/2011 12:39

I'll raise you, being carried out of a pub by a taxi driver after drinking myself unconcious,puking down myself and wetting myself, waking up and not even knowing where my dd was or who had her, getting a drink-drive conviction, being so drunk i snogged a horrible bloke in full view of everyone in the pub and both of us falling over, being too drunk to stop my son drunkenly fighting with others(too drunk to even know he was doing it), saying the most disgusting things to my best friend who's always been there for me - so disgusting I don't even want to repeat them on here or anywhere, i so would be judged, waking up half naked in someone elses house, not knowing how I got there and having wet myself in their spare bed, being too hungover to sort out my sons birthday party.....

I could go on and on and on and on, I could fill up the thread with it to be honest - and yes it is still bothering me, especially the more recent stuff (I just had a little cry a minute ago which is why I came back to the thread) but all the advice on here is sinking in, I can't go back and change any of it - I can only change what happens from now on. and by god, I am going to do it.

Try to see past transgressions as a form of strength for the future, that's what I'm doing and it's working

changelingforthis · 28/04/2011 12:49

That's so true - there's no point regretting the past - sometimes it's just hard to forget though. Hey, no misery on here Smile. We are all getting there! onwards and upwards!!!!!!!

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thursomuchtolookforwardto · 28/04/2011 14:00

Afternoon babes and boybabe,

Hmm, no Masterchef title for me..starter was lovely, chicken in a parcel boringly bland, still at least it kept my hands and mind busy!

qo and changeling when I first came on here I recounted almost all the things that I had done in the past in the past that made me feel ashamed, guilty and in hell, really. Everyone on here was so kind and supportive, in fact I remember one poster said that if I didn't stop beating myself up, the babes would come round and do it for me Grin. All that I am saying is, that if you need to let it out, do, no-one on here is going to judge you, and it might make you feel better, but if you don't that's fine too. This isn't a confessional, we are real people with real lives that encompass a lot more than our battle with the wine, or whatever your choice is.

I too, went off and had a cry, and came back and posted some more, it was such a relief to stop pretending. As some of you know, I met Venus (how are you lovely lady?) in RL a week or so ago, and although we had never met before, it was one of the most honest conversations I've had in a long time, if not ever. I felt like we were old friends. We chatted about a lot more than our battle with the wine, though.

FWIW, stopping the drink makes it a lot easier to leave those horrid mind games behind, although I still get times when I replay every single incident, unfortunately I have the memory of an elephant (and I look like one too Smile).

Lots of love xxxx

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