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AF, Dittany, Grace et al Itsnotjustaslap DV Update

245 replies

itsnotjustaslap · 04/02/2011 13:07

Hi

Just thought would update; thought about things and realised that I was coping fine with my son without my husband and not falling apart. He did not contribute anything much to my happiness or to the house or childcare (or at least far less than he thought he did) and that I felt far calmer and happier without him.

He did not really regret the violence or acknowlege that he was controlling or that ranting in front of our son for hours was harming him.

Soo...I contacted Social Services to report my concerns for my son's emotional well being as he wakes in the night for hours and cries (but he has slept through since my husband left) and to report the DV. They stated that they did have real concerns for my son's welfare and wanted to speak with both me and my husband. They also advised me to go to the police which I did.

I wanted the DV to be just put on file however the police stated that he would be arrested and charged regardless of whether I made a statement or not. It was really hard but I made the statement anyway and he was arrested and charged.

Obviously things are very difficult now with him and his family. He is trying everything to win me back, as he does not want to lose everything but has also said that if we get back together I must fully apologise to his family for getting the police involved in a private matter and getting him a criminal record (they can fuck right off!).

I am sooo much happier without him. The police protection unit have told me that if I go back to him he will seriously harm me so that makes my decision easier.

He does not yet know that my decision is made and it will be really difficult when he does know as he will become very angry and possibly violent and I do have concerns about contact with our son. But I'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

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amummyinwaiting · 04/02/2011 13:10

You sound an incredibly brave woman.
keep strong, you are doing the right thing.

AnyFucker · 04/02/2011 13:35

Oh my God, what a brave woman

I so admire what you have done. I am glad the authorities have taken you seriously, and that their validation of how bad it was is strengthening your resolve.

How dare he try to force stipulations on how you will "get back together"

I sincerely hope you never get back together

Dead right him and his family are pissed off. Him because he has been forced to take the consequences of his actions, and them because they are too stupid not to collude with an abuser

I would not collude with an abuser in my own family. I would step right back and say "You do the crime, you do the "time" ie. take the punishment)

Have you family/friends nearby to give you some RL practical support ? It sounds like you are goign to need it.

Face the fear though, don't let fear of him make you crumble.

If him, or any memeber of his scummy family threaten you (or your kids) verbally or physically or make you feel uncomfortable in any way, call the police

get it all documented

you may need to get a Non-molestation order for you to feel safer

have you spoken to women's aid...they can give you brilliant practical advice on how to deal with him, and the steps you can follow to deal with any aggression

do not take any aggression from him

if you don't want to "talk about your relationship" ...don't

if you don't want to hear his empty promises... don't

and if he keeps pestering you to do so...inform the police

all the very best of luck and strength to you xx

Anniegetyourgun · 04/02/2011 13:37

He wants you to apologise because he got arrested for hurting you... Shock

The police are so right, a man with an attitude like that is very dangerous and absolutely should not be anywhere near you or your precious child.

Gibbous · 04/02/2011 14:35

Couldn't not post, I am full of admiration for your strength. I grew up with severe domestic violence and appreciate, obviously only in part mind, how difficult it is for a woman to leave even in that situation, despite what some say to the contrary. My mum only found the courage when my dad started on my brother.

I absolutely applaud you, you and your son sound like you have a wonderful future ahead. I love that already your son's emotional wellbeing is showing huge signs of improvement, it can only get better from now. Grab that rosy future and do not let this man stop you.

dittany · 04/02/2011 14:42

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caramelwaffle · 04/02/2011 21:16

I could not let this go without saying well done. Good luck and I hope you have a wonderful future x

itsnotjustaslap · 04/02/2011 23:28

Thank you everyone it's been a really tough evening and have called out the police again as he came to my mum's house after not leaving me alone by phone or text all evening. I don't know what part of 'I do not want to talk with you, please leave me alone' he is not hearing.

And, he wants to get back with me...he came to the door and shouted through the letterbox that he had domineered me, had put me down, hit me and lost all respect for me; and could I go back to him?

Hello. No. Just no.

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AnyFucker · 05/02/2011 00:35

No

No

NO

You are so right.

Stay as strong as you are. You are an inspiration.

BitOfFun · 05/02/2011 00:37

Keep going- you are doing great. I'm so glad you updated, thanks Smile

Mouseface · 05/02/2011 17:21

Well done for doing what you have.

For yourself, and for your son.

You are amazingly strong, even when you must have been terrified of what might happen next.

Never, ever, go backwards.

You have survived. And you are stronger than ever now.

You have taken the power away from him by taking control of you lives.

Well done and the best of luck to you both (you and your DS) xxxx

BelleDameSansMerci · 05/02/2011 17:27

Well done, you wonderful, courageous woman. You are giving you and your son the best future you can.

earwicga · 05/02/2011 17:28

Well done! I really admire you.

Can you get a restraining order against your ex?

mumonthenet · 05/02/2011 17:34

God, you brave and admirable woman.

You have done a wonderful thing for yourself and your innocent ds.

Good luck, take care. Keep strong.

ThePosieParker · 05/02/2011 17:36

Wow....what an incredibly brave woman you are. You have done the right thing, I think you are right to be concerned about access to your son, I would pursue a 'supervised' visit route too. Someone that harmful and controlling may stop at nothing to get at you.

Keep stepping forward.

CheerfulV · 05/02/2011 17:38

What a wonderful woman you are. :) You're setting a brilliant example for your child of what behaviour isn't okay to put up with, and indeed of the ways in which is is absolutely, completely not okay to treat others.
For that and for the hell you've been through and are still emerging from, you should feel really proud. Well done!

MadameOvary · 05/02/2011 18:26

The fact that your son now sleeps better at night is huge on its own.
What a fantastically brave woman you are. Keep posting, you are an inspiration!

MigratingCoconuts · 05/02/2011 18:34

Wow! Well done, that is terrific news! so pleased for you!
Grin at you being told to apologise to his famly before he considers getting back with you....classic! Where do these men get off??!!

a big Wineglass full to you...cheers!

Myleetlepony · 05/02/2011 19:33

I just had to add another message of support, well done, you are one strong woman!

FlamingoBingo · 05/02/2011 20:28

Wow! What an amazing, strong woman you are!

Well done!

Your boy will grow up very proud of your bravery.

ItsGraceAgain · 05/02/2011 21:49

You are fantastic :) I'm very happy for your DS, that he has a wise and caring mother.

I feel honoured by your namecheck!

I hope things go more smoothly than you expect & fear. I know you'll have the strength, support and sanity to pick the right path through whatever comes next. xx

itsnotjustaslap · 05/02/2011 23:05

I'm so overwhelmed by all your messages of support! Thank you so much, everyone, the police, my friends, my work (they will do a formal risk assessment and make sure I am chaperoned to the car park even) and you!

I have so many more friends than I ever thought possible and I am overwhelmed that every person I have spoken to about my story has been absolutely horrified and validated what has been going on was very wrong and not right at all.

It wasn't just an isolated violent incident; it was several over the course of our relationship, some of which I had blotted out until now; but worst of all was the constant control; the rants and arguments that lasted for hours because I disagreed with him or did something in a different way to which he was accustomed. He used to always bring me up if I said 'dustpan and brush' and made me say 'brush and dustpan' because that was the way his mum said it.

There were so many things looking back now; one evening when we were going to the pub with his family in the summer he went absolutely ape when he found me pegging out the jeans legs first because I was really pissed off with soggy waistbands - he yelled at me for about an hour and insisted on re-pegging them waistbands first because that was the proper way and he insisted that my empirical scientific observations that waistbands dried better with more air circulation was WRONG WRONG WRONG.

He never used to listen to me or compliment me. He said that in order for him to find me physically attractive I had to always dress up for him a la the hooker look after I had washed thoroughly. I was so depressed that he never wanted the 'real' me in my own naked skin. And I was so depressed that he rationed sex to a few times a year because he was 'too tired', but not too tired to play 190 minutes of football a week.

He said that I wasn't attractive. Not for him. I believed him; when the worst incident so far happened last month he told me that the reason he no longer found me sexually attractive was because my stomach was saggy and I have stretchmarks (I am a size 10). The policewoman who came to the house last night when told me he was wrong and that I was beautiful. No-one has ever told me that so far. It is so sad that it should have been my husband.

I have to say that when my husband did tell me that i was sexually repulsive to him before this all happened; I told him that i was not really surprised as I suspected that he no-one really matched up to his mother and that he probably wanted to sleep with her instead. I'm really not sorry for that comment; I'm particularly proud of that one, actually.

Tomorrow will be difficult as I have reluctantly agreed to contact with his son in a supervised setting with a mutual friend. I have told him however via text (and through the friend) that it is strictly about seeing our son. I reluctantly agreed as our mutual friend told me that he really was in a very bad mental state (and although on my side) part of her thought that just seeing his son might help in.

I have told him that I am worried for our son's welfare and he has to be strong enough to hold it all together tomorrow and pretend to our son as much as possible that nothing is wrong. If he distresses my son by becoming upset, crying, or ranting, I will leave immediately. His behaviour tomorrow will influence how ready i feel he is for more contact; if he blows it then he has to prove to me that he is sufficiently stable to have contact in the short and long term.

I will dress up tomorrow in new clothes and wash my hair and have a full face of makeup. I expect that he will be looking very, very forlorn and a bit feral,but while he may not be able to cope I will be illustrating to him that I am strong enough without him and able to provide stability for our son.

And any relationship discussion is absolutely out of bounds. He is a man who recently argued with me for 3 hrs before work in front of our son who was crying the whole time. He wouldn't let me leave and threatened our relationship was over if I didn't come back to finish yet another circular point. When I saw my son's tear stained and anxious face and my husband's unconcern I made up my mind there that I could not let this go on.

In the meantime I will be enjoying a full Wine courtesy of my husband who when unable to leave me alone yesterday left flowers, chocolate and wine on my doorstep. The stingy fucker had actually paid out for a decent bottle of wine and it is very nice actually, as were the chocolates. Couldn't buy me back though Grin

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earwicga · 05/02/2011 23:10

If I were you I would stop the contact thing tomorrow. There is a case which I assume is going to court against him. The fact that you are willing to see him tomorrow WILL be used in evidence against you. Obviously that wouldn't be fair but it will happen.

You need to sort out proper access in a proper setting which doesn't involve you at all.

itsnotjustaslap · 05/02/2011 23:20

Unfortunately earwicga he was only cautioned (although there was probably enough evidence for prosecution - I had incriminating emails). There are no restrictions (yet) on him.

Social Services have visited me yesterday and were fantastic. They will have to speak with him but have absolutely no concerns for my son's welfare because I have removed him from this environment.

They have told me if I get back with him (and they would not recommend this although they have to treat people as adults able to make their own decisions) they would be very concerned and probably go to case conference and would be looking at proof that my son is safe and my husband's behaviour changed.

They have advised a third party contact when visitation but have said that I am a capable adult and will have to arrange this as I see fit and we will have to work something out in the long term re custody etc.

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earwicga · 05/02/2011 23:23

Fair enough, sorry I obviously misread your earlier message. Hope all goes well for you and your child. You deserve the best!

itsnotjustaslap · 06/02/2011 00:23

Thanks! Will update after tomorrow, the joy.

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