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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Offy!!

977 replies

Mouseface · 09/10/2010 18:54

Well, this is our tenth thread so we are throwing a little party!

Everyone is invited! No booze of course, soft drinks and mocktails only!

I'm Mouse, hello. Smile

There are all kinds of drinkers on board the bus. Come and join the journey, whatever stage you are at, drinking, cutting down, wanting to stop or sober already.

Everyone is welcome to post here. Come say hi.

The journey so far is below.

JWN's original thread

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VampireMouseface · 11/10/2010 13:38

Hello Brave Babes.

Just wanted to pop in and say hello, hope that you are all ok on the bus today.

Silver is on holiday still in lovely sunny France. Envy

Welcome to the new faces on board the bus.

SAF - sending you love and strength to get through the day.

And of course to those who are struggling with life and booze.

Smile
munkymaz · 11/10/2010 13:43

Are you feeling a bit bloodthirsty today mouse Grin

JaneS · 11/10/2010 13:49

Thanks whitenap. Smile

You know, it means so much to know other people are in on the same effort. Really helps.

diabolik · 11/10/2010 13:55

..:( weather is nice ... life is good ... ( I am getting back on top of things ..

Net result I hear the beer o'clock bell sounding ..

Grrrrr

VampireMouseface · 11/10/2010 13:56

Munky - thought I'd get into the spirit of Halloween! Grin

And to be fair, it'll be the closet I get to a bloody mary these days!

dementedma · 11/10/2010 13:57

Hang in there diabolik....
Day 3 here and I am seriously craving sweets and chocolate, and also a tad irritable, headachy and weepy. is this normal, or just be being a miserable cow???

desiretochange · 11/10/2010 14:12

Well done on Day 3 demented, any chance AF is on the way rather than as a result of not drinking??
Diabolik we turn to drink when times are good and when times are bad, it doesn't make the good times better or the bad times any better either, so why do we bother??

desiretochange · 11/10/2010 14:12

Apologies Mouse, forgot to say hello, how are you feeling today?

MIFLAW · 11/10/2010 14:16

Diabolik

"Mentioned Friday night I wanted to check out the AA to GF who said . "why they will only want to convert you" . I agree the religious side of it is in contrast to where I stand in live"

It sounds like both you and GF know very little about how AA actually works - perhaps it would make more sense to withhold judgement until you have attended a few times?

Dementedma

PLEASE do not use willpower to stop. Your willpower will bury you.

Give up. Alcohol has you beaten. Admit it and walk away.

JaneS · 11/10/2010 14:20

demented - have the sweets and chocolate! If you think, alcohol has a lot of calories, so you will need sweet things to even it up when you are not drinking.

I've noticed that when I really crave a glass of wine, it is partly because I'm dehydrated and need sugar - so a glass of sugary cordial or lemonade (which I wouldn't normally touch), is actually a good thing.

Good luck Smile

VampireMouseface · 11/10/2010 14:34

Hey desire - I'm just a bit exhausted at the mo.....

And Nemo is really bad so I am popping in here, and trying to give him the best of me. Which I couln't do if I were drinking! This thread is keeping me going though. Smile

desiretochange · 11/10/2010 14:36

Aw Mouse sorry to hear you are so tired, is Nemo ill at the moment?

jesuswhatnext · 11/10/2010 14:37

diabolick - go back and read your first post! want to feel like that again?

VampireMouseface · 11/10/2010 14:43

desire - his reflux is very bad due to him having a cold.

JWN - have PMd you. What shoes are you sporting today oh style queen? Grin

diabolik · 11/10/2010 14:55

MIFLAW

god im a slow typer - 1 finger method :)

anyway here goes

GF might not but I have read large parts of the Big Book before and some of it sounds very much religious to me even though caveats are made.

The religious undertones in the BB and the AA are to be expected as it is a US depression era piece of work / movement

I disagree btw with GF about the converting thing if you don't want to be converted you wont be. Conversion works through inner change rather then through people talking at you.

Remember from my first post where I mentioned I was teetotal for most of my 20's. After I had spend 8 years from the age of 14 in a constant haze of anything going under the sun .. If I look back I reckon I basically stumbled up on the first 3 steps after a bad experience and hitting rock bottom with out knowing it. ( catholic upbringing and basically doing a mea culpa )

It worked for a long time but it did make me very much a hermit where I shied away from the world. Probably triggering my renewed hedonism throughout my 30's because I thought I had missed out on something ..

anyway I am rambling on and on as this a bad medium .. so please don't consider it me being judgemental - just having reservations and if it works it works and really I wont care how I got there just as long as i dont end up in that same limbo again..

diabolik · 11/10/2010 14:57

JWN

no need to I do remember I am just recognising one of my triggers thats all ..

I am not drinking today

JaneS · 11/10/2010 14:58

For what it's worth, I'm not keen on what I've seen of AA's rhetoric either.

jesuswhatnext · 11/10/2010 15:17

mouse - pink knee length snakeskin cowboy boots with a studded heel, i got them from destiny in covent garden and i luv 'em! Grin (yes, they are quite flat for me! Grin)

MIFLAW · 11/10/2010 15:18

FWIW I was at an AA meeting last night.

In 90 minutes, the name "Jesus" was mentioned once - and that was by me, when I was doing the "chair" (the keynote speech, if you prefer) in the context of, "I don't believe in Jesus."

I can't say how many other people there didn't believe in Jesus - but I had no negative comeback for saying it.

As i've said elsewhere, the only thing you need to understand about God is it isn't you.

This holds just as good for atheists and agnostics as it does for believers - the premise that there is no God should not be taken to imply that you are in absolute control of everything in your life, because clearly you are not. If you believe you are, put it to the test next time you have diahrroea.

As such, you are going to learn a bit of acceptance if you are to beat drink and still live in the real world. Things are going to fuck up, people are going to die, you are going to have bad days, and drink will be on every street corner, just waiting for you. If you cannot accept these things and adapt yourself to them; if you cannot see that you have problems in your life beyond drink and that the world is not going to be perfect just because you stop caning strong lager; and if you cannot believe that the ideal is for you to live instead of die; then you are not going to last beyond the first broken shoelace.

There you go - that is the sum total of the religion you are required to find in your heart. Think you can manage it?

Of course, AA is full of Irish and therefore full of Catholics, so don't be surprised if you meet a few believers along the way (just as you would in the pub) - but no one is making you join them at Mass, just encouraging you to join them in an AA meeting.

VampireMouseface · 11/10/2010 15:19

JWN - brilliant!!! I heart your dedication to your feet!! Grin

dementedma · 11/10/2010 15:30

MIFLAW

"Dementedma

PLEASE do not use willpower to stop. Your willpower will bury you.

Give up. Alcohol has you beaten. Admit it and walk away."

Can you explain please? Give up trying to stop drinking? Confused

diabolik · 11/10/2010 15:31

So how do you avoid limbo as that was how those years felt for me .. Like I had a 12 piston car but only allowing 4 of them to fire at any time ..

I know live isn't about the hedonism and living like its your last day on earth - but how do I fill up that space that emptiness I felt during those years which I know will return.. That's what I don't get and the stronger I get because of not drinking / living it up whatever ( physically and mentally ).. the harder it gets to resist .. its been a pattern through out my live

I know there are no easy answers and probably all that lies at the centre of my behaviour/ me over the years .. but there must be a way out a real way out not an artificial one where by I put my life on hold.

MissPerrier · 11/10/2010 15:34

Good very afternoon to all you brave babes and blokes!Smile
Well bugger me if I haven't made to 3 months. (New sober me appears to be a bit unladylike)Grin Just had weekend away with DH in Cotswolds, We had such a happy time! Once the whole weekend would have been about drinking, but this time we walked and talked, really talked. We ate chocolate cake and drank pots of tea. At dinner I drank N&T's and fizzy water, and really enjoyed the food. I have come home feeling rested, with some lovely memories deposited in my memory bank! I just want to tell you all, to keep on keeping on, because it's worth it. YOUR worht it. xxx

MissPerrier · 11/10/2010 15:37

Worth evenBlush
REDMOOMIN where are you? (((hug))) x

munkymaz · 11/10/2010 15:38

MissP 3 months is bloody AMAZING! Grin Congrats.