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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Brewery!

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Mouseface · 28/09/2010 19:33

Hello.

I'm Mouse and I've been on the bus for 2 months now and not fallen off it as yet. It's much more comfortable than The Wagon! Grin

Anyway, this is thread number nine!

Everyone is welcome to join at any point of the journey, drinking or not, wanting to stop or just to cut down.

Jump on board, you won't be judged, just supported whatever you decide. Smile

Here is the history of The Brave Babes if you want to have a read.

JWN's original thread

Thread two

Thread three

Thread four

Thread five

Thread six

Thread seven

Thread eight

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Rightpickle · 08/10/2010 10:58

Rage - been there, done that, drowned in the shame.

You are not alone, and you are not the big ball of crap you are almost certainly thinking you are right now, either. Give yourself a hug and know that we all know exactly how you feel.

I'm on my second mostly sober week. It's actually quite nice. Never thought I'd say that.

Good luck.

lucilastic · 08/10/2010 10:59

Rage, welcome. I have been in your position so many times. I know exactly how you are feeling. I too can not drink "normally" or in moderation.

I drink and drink until I pass out.
I no longer like drinking in public (especially if I'm alone) as I don't trust myself to not end up slumped on some toilet floor incapable of getting up.
I got hammered (really hammered) at my DC's 3rd birthday meal with all the family.
I feel for you.
You are in the right place. I have not had a drink since Sunday and am taking it literally a day (sometimes an hour) at a time.
You can sit next to me on the bus and I'll look after you. Do you need a bag to be sick into? Paracetamol? Just name it.
Smile

IMoveTheStars · 08/10/2010 11:08

gah, I'm crap at keeping up with this kind of thread Blush

Hello though [parks arse on seat next to Rage]

Rage - I reckon you feel like I did on Wednesday morning after my [counts] 21.8 units. ConfusedShock

Still, haven't had a drink since Tuesday night and not sure if I can attempt a booze free weekend just yet (Fellatio's gonna be maaad) but will give it a go.

ChristianaTheSeventh · 08/10/2010 11:11

silver je voudrais une montagne de fromage et de foie gras s'il te plait

desiretochange · 08/10/2010 11:15

Wow the bus is really filling up, welcome to all newcomers, bus is a great place to be, full of lovely babes:) and Miflaw:)
Silver, you lucky thing heading to France, my sister has just given me her cds for learning french as they have a property in France and I hope to go there next year but want to improve on my school french and speak the language when I am there Hmm

ChristianaTheSeventh · 08/10/2010 11:15

MIFLAW has just said something very profound for me on another thread. He is responding to Olifin who says she uses drink and drugs to fill a void. I would sympathise with her view. But then MIFLAW said this, and it has SERIOUSLY struck a chord with me:

'Ofilin - if you didn't have this void as a child and you do now, can I ask where you think it came from? If it really wasn't there in your childhood, then is it too far outside the box to suggest that, far from filling the void, alcohol and other drugs have created it and made it bigger?'

ChristianaTheSeventh · 08/10/2010 11:17

jareth NO-ONE will be mad at you for not drinking. You will be mad at yourself if you do. But what am I saying, don't project.

diabolik · 08/10/2010 11:19

are there any rules for joining ?

ChristianaTheSeventh · 08/10/2010 11:22

Not at all diabolik
You have a cool name! I likey.
Welcome, tell us something about you.

Mouseface · 08/10/2010 11:23

'We're gonna need a bigger boat bus'!! Grin

No rules at all. Post as much or as little as you want diabolik (great name). Tell us about you or don't. Just jump on board!!

EVERYONE is welcome. Smile

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IMoveTheStars · 08/10/2010 11:26

Hi Christina, don't think I was projecting Blush
Fellatio has said she'll do a booze free night with me though and don't want to let her down.

ChristianaTheSeventh · 08/10/2010 11:27

Oh sorry, I understand now, you won't let her down I'm sure but just try not to think about it now, just think about today. Today you won't be drinking.

Silver66 · 08/10/2010 11:40

Welcome Diabolik - squash up you lot.

Good Morning M - that struck a huge chord with me too - food for thought - thank you

Christi erm right - cheese and foi gras yeah - on it's way - funny thing is when we have been to Frnace and I've been pissed for most of the trip I would chat away in very bad French to anyone who would listen in bars etc and they seemed to understand me - couldn't understand a f**ing word they were saying back to me though. I think I may be a much quieter visitor this time and leave the talking to DP.

On that note - if anyone is into skiing or cycling DP's flat is half way up mountain in Alp D'Huez - more than welcome to borrow it - it's empty unless we are there or DP's mates - can get cheap flights to grenoble and hire a car - much cheaper that package skiing and when the new place is done up that will be available too in a town at bottom of mountain who's name escapes me. Seriously he'd just want a bit of money to cover electricity etc and there is a bar/restaurant underneath and the owners hold a set of keys.

Unfortunately I am NOT into skiing or cycling so it's a good job I am a prolific reader and knitter - except just realised can't take knitting needles on plane FFS Angry - Ah well - ce la vie Grin

not gloating really!!

diabolik · 08/10/2010 11:41

ty ladies - Im a 40year old bloke ..... long story .. but basically I have had drink drug issues since I was 14.. with a bit of a gap in my 20's where I was teetotal for about 6 years . I then forgot why I had gone teetotal and started drinking again shortly followed by substance abuse initially only on weekend s but that very quickly went out of the window as well ... Now 10 years later I feel Im at a point where it could really end up ruining my life ( loose job etc etc ) ... -

When I drink and I don't drink every day it seems there is no limit nor reason - I drink at high speed till I pass out or go on and buy coke ( nb this has been a lot less recently but still happens once twice a month ) so I can drink for an extra couple of hours .. I then wake up a wreck - basically don't work ( I work from home ) and promise my self not to do it again .. which will normally take 72 hours and its back to square one ...
Some times ( maybe once twice a year ) I manage a couple of weeks with no drinking when I go on a health trip - but I always end up back where I began ... In short I am really scared ... that one day I will either kill my self or I will go over the edge and end up that stereo type homeless alcoholic...

MIFLAW · 08/10/2010 11:46

Diabolik

Welcome.

  1. I am a bloke too.

  2. It sounds like your problem is mainly with alcohol (as you use coke mainly to extend your drinking rather than as an end in itself) so focus on the drink first

  3. you may not be homeless, but, based purely on your self-description, you already exhibit the defining characteristics of a stereotypical alcoholic. Congratulations for deciding to deal with it now.

Mouseface · 08/10/2010 11:46

Do you know diabolik, I knew you were a man.

Not that it makes one jot of difference but I should warn you....JWN is a bit of a flirt and may well flash you her kitten heels and leopard skin tights once in a while. Grin

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Silver66 · 08/10/2010 11:54

Nice to have another man on board Diabolik - it's intersting to get male perspective on drinking - i think women these days tend to do a lot of their drinking at home (Kids etc) - i know i do/did - and i used to use coke as a way of partying for longer in my younger days but then that turned into a habit of taking it at home - so one day i just knocked it on the head and have never touched it since - i wish it was that easy with alcohol -but for some reason it just isn't - easier to get hold of i suppose - it's everywhere you turn where as getting coke has to be a much more dliberate and thought out process - gives you time to think before automatically putting it up your nose/pouring it down your throat on autopilot.

PS ignore eveything Mouse says - she's only nice to you to get her cheese fix Grin

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Mouseface · 08/10/2010 12:03
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diabolik - I agree with Silver in that it's good to get another male's perspective on the demon that is booze.

I too did coke to carry the party forward. It would also take a good three to four days to come down and get over the absue I did to my system.

Not great when you are supposed to be in a mangerial position. Needless to say I got fired.

Hmm. Still didn't stop me though. Not done coke for ages. I loved it. Hated the low and the down but the high, oh the high. It was awesome.

That was many years ago now. Pre DH and pre DC. Funny, I clearly though I needed to try and find another way to kill myself recently?

I'm sure if I had continued to drink the way I was, I'd be dead fairly soon.

So today, I will not be drinking.

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diabolik · 08/10/2010 12:07

Miflaw re nr 3 It scares me witless - for example when the champions league final was on .. I went to our local pub and managed 9 pints in the 90 mins + halve time of that game .. - Went home ( walked as my GF had forbidden me to take the car ) and drank another 6 before passing out ... That's just not normal is it ..
as for 2 - guess your right but it used to be 3 times a week untill about 5 6 months ago

Mouse thanks for the heads up .. re JWN -

Silver not sure whether there is a difference between male and female drinking y not as far as I can see .. as for coke ... when you have dealers in your circle of friends availability will become of no relevance ..

Silver66 · 08/10/2010 12:09

Morning Wasindie - I would love to be in a position that I had been sober for a long time and could just partake of the odd glass of vino and enjoy the one glass and leave it at that but I agree with you, that the self control you need to be able to to that is just mentally exhausting - is it worth it - Mouse you seem to be able to do that - tell us how it makes you feel - don't you just want to carry on drinking once you have started? I know i always do.....

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Mouseface · 08/10/2010 12:21

Silver - 'Mouse you seem to be able to do that - tell us how it makes you feel - don't you just want to carry on drinking once you have started? I know i always do.....'

I have no idea what has changed. I don't want to get pissed anymore. It just does not appeal to me. AT ALL!!!

I want to remember my children, my husband and my life. I love my life. I love my family, my friends, my home.

I also love myself and I owe it to myself to take control. For good.

I owe it to Nemo to be able to care for him and meet his needs. I owe it to my DD to be there for her as she grows and changes into a young lady.

I owe it to my husband to be the best wife and companion that I can be.

But most of all, I owe it to myself to have the self respect to stop drinking to excess.

Smile
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