Big Farma in Little Ambridge - come and talk The Archers talk

[PseudoBadger]

New thread for the beginning of the pheasant season.

Would it be considered very naughty for us to do a spoof relationship thread as either Kirsty or Hellin and see what people said?

olivia you'd be up for this right...?

I can't stand Jill either. She personifies passive-aggressive. And I never liked Phil either.

I am ambivalent about Jill. I remember vividly all that nonsense when David & Ruth were in the bungalow & she kept dropping in & 'helping out' - always wanted to slap her then

but otoh she has some pleasant motherly moments...(my mum died when I was 21 so I have orphan envy )

Bluestocking

You didn't like Phil? You don't like Jill?

Did you get lost on your way to somewhere entirely other?

Jill annoys me with her "oh!!" expression that she wheels out when shocked.

But I'd take 100 Jills over that old witch Peggy :o

Yes, Peggy is truly awful. Jill just thinks she's right about everything and everyone else seems to think she's perfect.

Linda can be silly I know but has show real compassion and empathy for other characters over the years. Of course the scriptwriters forget this and just go back to making her silly.

No I have to disagree about Peggy. She is an example of bravery, resilience determination...

A drunken first husband, wayward children, Jack's Alzheimer's.... She lives alone despite having had a stroke. She's well off but scoffs at snobbery in her children. (She's prone to reminding Jennifer of their earlier life living at The Bull. And I seem to remember that Fallon was pretty surprised at her capability when Peggy "babysat" her at the Bull while Jolene and Sid were away.) She copes with Brian - with humour.

She almost always sees not just the difficulty but the solution. She's generous, supportive of her grandchildren, keeps up to date with technology and is still eager for whatever life has to offer.

What's to dislike?

Relatively new listener.2/3 years..shocked that Susan went to prison...what on earth for?!

Kindness. Loyalty. Naivety.

I think her brother was either in prison and escaped or on the run pre-prison. He turned up at her house and, although she was terrified, she allowed him to hide out there. Eventually (someone say if I'm misremembering...) she shopped him to the police.

It was pretty awful. There was a national uproar because no-one thought she should have been imprisoned.

Aaah primadonna Susan has a shit of a brother (she is a social climber from a large fairly dysfunctional working class family) Cloive had escaped jail or probation or something and landed on her doorstep and somehow threatens her to make her hide him and she gets into trouble for it ending up in prison. Sorry i can't remember some of the details.

ppea Yours is so much more..... poetic.

The fact that you hadn't picked up on her past imprisonment Primadonna is because the entire village supported her and backed a campaign to have her released. So they don't treat her as a "jailbird". She retains the (somewhat patronising) respect (for general try-hardness) that she had before the episode. Her husband is also well respected, as is her son. (Emma not so much...)

Although the village very definitely looks down on the rest of her Horrobin family.

Aw shucks Something

TallGiraffe please do the Tom & Kirsty thread, it would be most amusing.

Do it in AIBU, not in Relationships. Somebody did a Helen thread once before and I thought it was hilarious. Not everyone was amused, though, especially those who didn't immediately see what it was!

There was a national FREE THE AMBRIDGE ONE campaign

Here is the Helen thread.

Love this thread it's so lively and informative.
I don't pay enough attention as TA is on at dinner time here when we are supposed to be conversing as a family !
Thank's for the Helin thread -brilliant.

\link{http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/campaign-to-free-the-ambridge-one-1398401.html\blimey, it was almost 20 years ago}

I was just googling to try to find more inf about the Susan/Clive thing (but iirc he had held up the village shop/PO - with a gun maybe? - when Kate Aldridge (?) & at least one older person were there, & then gone on the run, & that was when Susan hid him)

anyway look what came up

\link{http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/clive-horobin/42/98a/796\Clive Horobin, Group Retail Space Executive at Primark Stores Ltd}

Poor bloke - I bet he gets some stick

Yes! Apologies TallG I actually fell asleep last night thinking of Kirstie's pitiful (hopeful?) post - but completely failed to comment this morning. (Too busy defending lovely Peggy...)

The hold-up at the village shop is right on the very edge of my memory... Along with David (as an adult) calling out "Mummy!" in his sleep after Jill had been in danger. Was that the same story or something else?

It all tends to run into one in my memory, but Clive came back ?about 10 years ago and injured some horses in the Stables because he thought George and Christine Barford were still there. Then he set fire to the Barfords' house when Christine and Jill were inside. I think David rescued them. All very nasty but not genuinely frightening because it was so OTT.

I don't think Jill was at the PO raid, but there was the fire at the Barfords' house later (Clive again, with his grudge against George) & I have a feeling Jill was there with Chris, & David rescued them? something like that

X-post, Londonmother!

....all because George B had some role in getting him put away years earlier.