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Prepping for a pandemic...7

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wheresmymojo · 26/02/2020 19:29

7th thread on prepping for a pandemic and following the risk of a COVID pandemic.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar Thanks

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

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ofwarren · 26/02/2020 20:03

1st case of #coronavirus in #Norway

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 20:08

#NORWAY- 5 people are suspected of having #Coronavirus in Norway, additionally to the confirmed case announced earlier. they are currently self-quarantined at home.

Adesignforstrife · 26/02/2020 20:10

Lurker here. Pretty well prepped now for a couple of weeks at home if needed. Could split the house in two if needed and have lots of tins etc and some treats too (building on remnants of Brexit stash). But otherwise going about business as usual - weekends away in UK etc though European break at Easter could be debatable. I personally haven't gone for masks - though DH has a fancy filter mask for a hobby and has independently bought spare filters. Just need to get some oatly in - we prefer this to uht milk (and often have it as a milk alternative anyway) - and some extra veggie mince. We have become hand-washing ninjas, and I'm seeing lots of possible transmission routes I wouldn't have thought twice about previously (bowling, public transport, shared desks). As I said carrying on with all these sorts of things for now, but with extra caution...

NutellaQuest · 26/02/2020 20:13

Checking in. Big shop of long life stuff arrived today. Delivery guy asked me how many kids I have! BlushGrin We are family of three...!

FelicityFebruary · 26/02/2020 20:15

Thanks for this thread.

ItsNotJustTheFuckingFlu · 26/02/2020 20:15

Placemarking.

Angjud · 26/02/2020 20:20

Thank you for making me feel better about prepping! My friends asked me not to be paranoid, but after getting tested a couple weeks ago (thank goodness the result was negative!!!) upon my return from South East Asia - prepping seems like the best way forward.

Legoandloldolls · 26/02/2020 20:21

At what point do you keep the kids home from school or stay home from work yourself? When it's in your town? When there's a certain number of cases? Or do you wait until it reaches your school or workplace?

I will keep them off when I'm.told too. In my mind it's when not if someone gets it. Staying off will just delay the inevitable. Four kids in four schools. Dh works in a school.

NewYearNewTwatName · 26/02/2020 20:21

Thank you mojo

Honkingallthewaytothebank · 26/02/2020 20:22

Long time lurker.
Things have been crazy in the supermarkets here (s europe) and there’s much concern about ongoing flights / ferries from italy.

We are pretty much sorted, not to the level I want us to be, but for what we can reasonably store. Of course now my child is sick (only a cold, ALL of the snot) so resisting the urge to dig into the emergency chocolate while we hang out at home.

This thread is proving to be so useful, and a voice of reason amongst the headless chickens currently emptying the shelves in lidl. Which is partly why we prepped.

LittleSwede · 26/02/2020 20:23

Thanks for the new threadwheresmymojo Smile

FelicityFebruary · 26/02/2020 20:25

Israeli health ministry has asked citizens to reconsider international travel!

wheresmymojo · 26/02/2020 20:27

Sorry it took me a while to set it up after the other one was full, I was too busy:

  • Petting this puppy (only 5 months old and already 25kg!)
  • Testing out the pancake mix from my prepping cupboard
  • Reminding DH that he's supposed to wash his hands as soon as he gets in without touching anything and following him around the house shouting 'Virus...virus all over the front door...and now the bin....virus on the light switch!!!' Grin
Prepping for a pandemic...7
Prepping for a pandemic...7
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Runmybathforme · 26/02/2020 20:27

Loonacy. You’re all barmy.

EnidBlyton · 26/02/2020 20:28

thanks for thread

shouldhavecalleditoatabix · 26/02/2020 20:30

@runmybathforme barmy we may be but we are also well stocked and ready to be shut indoors for a few weeks if when it hits the UK. Are you?

Dennisreynoldsduster · 26/02/2020 20:30

Checking in thanks for new thread

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 20:32

A case on the Canary Island of La Gomera

YoursTunbridgeWells · 26/02/2020 20:33

Iraqi shops are closed for 10 days? That's quite brutal if you had no warning. Surely some would starve?

FourTeaFallOut · 26/02/2020 20:34

Yes. Imagine putting together food and medicine together in readiness for an emerging pandemic. Sheer lunacy. Hmm Enjoy scrapping over the last ham sandwich with the other ostriches.

LittleSwede · 26/02/2020 20:35

Totally off topic but your puppy is absolutely adorable wheresmymojo! Belgian or German shepherd?

bellinisurge · 26/02/2020 20:37

Thank you, op.

Twixes · 26/02/2020 20:37

@Destinydaughter mentioned garlic, ginger, chillies in the other thread coming from China and likely to be in short supply soon.

I've decided to buy some tubes of ready to go stuff just in case and I might plant some garlic in the garden. It takes 9 months for garlic to grow apparently but covid could easily effect supply chains for a significant amount of time. I don't think I could live without garlic!

LittleSwede · 26/02/2020 20:37

Although having a large dog might prevent anyone attempting to loot the prepping stash though! So useful for prepping in other words.

TipseyTorvey · 26/02/2020 20:38

Mojo that puppy is gorgeous. Thanks for the new thread! Ofwarren please do update, well I like them anyway

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