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Prepping for a pandemic...7

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wheresmymojo · 26/02/2020 19:29

7th thread on prepping for a pandemic and following the risk of a COVID pandemic.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar Thanks

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

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AvocadoOwl · 26/02/2020 19:35

Thanks Mojo!

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 19:36

Thank you. Checking in

MasterOfCaffeine · 26/02/2020 19:38

At what point do you keep the kids home from school or stay home from work yourself? When it's in your town? When there's a certain number of cases? Or do you wait until it reaches your school or workplace?

KaptenKrusty · 26/02/2020 19:39

🤭 these threads are getting more and more ridiculous by the minute

HasaDigaEebowai · 26/02/2020 19:39

checking in

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 19:41

#CoronaVirus— Iraqi authorities order the closure of public stores for 10 days

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 19:42

Master it's a tough judgement call really. I will be doing it once it's in the north as my son is immune suppressed but for healthy people, I really don't know.

BookofJudith · 26/02/2020 19:43

Thanks Mojo Gin 🥽😷

FuckThisWind · 26/02/2020 19:47

Crikey! I thought I had lost you all.

Checking in. After buying what seems to be the last of the masks in my local Wickes.

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 19:48

Iraq bans its citizens from traveling to China, Iran, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Singapore, Italy, Kuwait, and Bahrain. #coronavirus

Destinysdaughter · 26/02/2020 19:50

Bit pissed off as I had a fractious phone call with a friend about prepping and she basically pooh pooped me, saying I was being paranoid and overreacting. I don't feel I am, I think the advice on these threads has been sensible and realistic. I ended up by saying don't come running to me when you've run out of toilet paper and have to wipe your arse on your curtains!

EliK · 26/02/2020 19:52

Checking in

discoballz · 26/02/2020 19:52

@KaptenKrusty Eminent scientists have said that millions of people in the UK are likely to have this by the end of March but hey, I guess you know better.

BridgeToTerabithia · 26/02/2020 19:53

@ofwarren please could you share the bot you follow and I can turn on twitter notifications on my phone? :)

sideorderofchips · 26/02/2020 19:54

Thank you for the new thread

RedLentilYellowLentil · 26/02/2020 19:54

Hi everyone. The last thread filled up all of a sudden.

I wanted to pull some faces at that thing someone posted about claimants being sanctioned if they can't attend the dole office (probably showing my age calling it that) because of Covid.

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Valkarie · 26/02/2020 19:55

I have been lurking since thread 3 and have found an enormous amount useful information, so thank you to everyone. I did a prep shop for no deal brexit, but that didn't happen, so we have been using all that in the course of everyday life.

I am currently prepping in case we are stuck at home for an extended period. With brexit I thought there might be shortages of things we want, loo roll etc, but never believed the country would run out of food. This is different as it might be risky to go out and contract or spread the virus.

My list so far has involved:
Tins and packets of long life food
Longer life bread items
Flour and yeast - not enough
Cereals/oats
Potatoes, onions, carrots and a squash as longer life veg
Toiletries, soap and sanitiser
Nappies
Loo roll and tissues
Over the counter medicine
Dettol spray, wipes and bleach
Small freezer with meat, bread, some meals, lollies.

I would like more fresh fridged stuff, particularly with longer life, but I am done now till pay day. I have so far only bought things that we would normally use, but do have concerns about milk and bread if we have to be in for a long time. I don't want to get to the end of this with a load of wasted stuff. I feel more prepared than normal stocked house, but not nearly prepared enough.

originalcatlady · 26/02/2020 19:55

@Destinysdaughter me too. I ended by saying I won't be sharing my rice!

RedLentilYellowLentil · 26/02/2020 19:56

@KaptenKrusty These threads are populated by friendly, supportive, knowledgeable people. There's nothing ridiculous about that.

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 19:57

Of course bridge! I follow @ASBreaking news which is the bot and @BNODesk who aren't far behind them. Follow Reuters too as they are the quickest of the mainstream media.

FourTeaFallOut · 26/02/2020 19:58

Nice to see you checking in within the first five posts @KaptenKrusty - it seems awfully keen for someone so scathing.

AlohaMolly · 26/02/2020 19:58

DP found my stashed treat box in the shed so I imagine I’ll be low on biscuits by this time tomorrow

MyFavouriteColourIsBlue · 26/02/2020 19:59

Checking in here

Neome · 26/02/2020 20:00

WIBU to post a link to the emotional preparation thread?

ofwarren · 26/02/2020 20:01

Emotional preparation thread? Sounds like a good idea. Go for it

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