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36 in June, pregnant with 1st after 5 months with OH who doesn’t want it

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Firegirl35 · 26/12/2020 15:36

Hi girls I’ve been reading and lurking but really need to share my situation for some advice..

I’m 35, no children and have found out I’m pregnant. I’ve been with the father just 5 months, we have had a rushed relationship as first date in July and then I moved in 2 weeks later mainly due to my house purchase falling through... I’ve now bought a house that needs some work doing and am currently still living with him.

He’s 37, has a 6 year old daughter and 8 year old son from a previous LTR which he was devastated ended in her having an affair, telling him she didn’t love him anymore and tearing the family apart. He took it hard as he was the same age as his son when the same thing happened to him. When we first got together he said he’s not against having more kids ‘one day’. His mum went on to remarry and have a baby when she was 42, so he is open to it, but also he seems to think age isn’t really a barrier.

We have the kids exactly half the week (so he doesn’t pay ex maintenance), and things have been great until a few weeks ago when his son started having sickness and anxiety at meal times.. he’s asked his dad why he’s not with mummy and even said he doesn’t want Christmas. I don’t know if going between two houses is upsetting for them, but the ex has suggested she has them more. He’s dead against this, he wants to see them more, and he also doesn’t trust that if he gave her maintenance it would actually be spent on the kids. I’m not sure if he’s controlling her with this. I have no relationship with her whatsoever, she seems a bit threatened by the bond I have with her children but I think she’s coming round. The whole situation is new and they are still figuring it out a bit.

Anyway, I tested positive for covid on Nov 30th. I’m a firefighter and once the two weeks isolation ended I still felt very ill with symptoms like fatigue and sickness that weren’t going away... so I got signed off work another 2 weeks. I tried to get anti sickness tablets prescribed, and was asked if I could be pregnant. I took 3 tests which all came back positive and it was confirmed by an out of hours GP an hour later..

I was in total shock and couldn’t stop shaking for hours. I called a male friend who has been very supportive, and I registered with a maternity unit as I wanted an early scan to date me... I think I got pregnant when I was ill, as I stopped taking the pill but we did have sex once. The week before that though I was fatigued, so I don’t know. I have ended up contacting Marie curie for a scan as I knew I could get in there quick, and they booked me in for Xmas eve. We left early but the motorway was closed and the diversion made us late for the appointment, so they wouldn’t see me :(

I told my partner a few days ago, and his reaction was “for fcuk sake”. Then “what are you going to do?” He’s since made it very clear to me in several heartfelt conversations how he feels about it all, that it was wrong as it was a very bad time, he’s still getting his head around the situation he’s in and the fall out from it, the kids aren’t totally settled yet (more his son), and he always swore that if he had kids again it would be when everything was totally right as he wouldn’t want to bring another “broken person” into the world as he puts it. He said that everyone else would think the same, and that it’s just a pill. His ex terminated their third which he was against at the time but thinks they would struggle to cope as they would have had two young ones.. His opinion of abortions now is that they are fine, as she was fine with having the medical one. And he says he’s glad as that’s one less kid he would have messed up. He tells me it wouldn’t work as he knows he’s not ready for another baby now, that it’s Horrific and you need to be rock solid. I think he believes that I will 99% get rid of it, after a frosty day or so we’ve been getting on better even making jokes, but that’s because he thinks I’m definitely having an abortion. If I say something against that, then it’s “I don’t want to argue” “we keep going over it” or “it’s doing my head in”

For me-
I had a surgical abortion at 7 weeks when I was 24. I had only been with the guy 4 months and he lived 200 miles away, he was fairly happy and we were going to keep it but I was scared as I was young, living in a flat with a girlfriend, suffering badly with an eating disorder, and extreme sickness. I told my parents and my mum went mental, made me feel stupid and like a kid and that it was a mistake and I wouldn’t cope. So I ended up going to a clinic, coming away as I couldn’t do it, facing the wrath from my mum and going back to have it. It fcuked me up for years, I went through phases of being completely obsessed with babies to deciding I wanted absolutely nothing to do with them (then my decision was justified). I moved to be with my partner, secretly hated my mum for two years it took me to forgive her in my head. I was with my partner for 8 years, so it would have probably worked out and we only split when I decided to become a firefighter and he didn’t want to move away again.

I told myself at the time of the abortion that I would never do that again. But also as I’ve got older I’ve seen the rough side of life with kids so have a realistic view which makes me appreciate time I’ve had single/free. I know babies/families are hard work, but I see myself with one in the future. (Near or distant not sure). It’s really hard being a step mum/friend figure to my OHs two , and makes me want my own. I missed out on the baby stage and toddlers... ill also never be the one they want when they’re ill, and mums Xmas dinner trumps ours, they want to stay at mums Xmas eve etc... the mum always wins. It hurts. I feel like I love them like my own but I don’t get them if that makes sense, and it makes the pain of not having my own more. I thought before I got pregnant, if it doesn’t work out with me and OH (haven’t been happy with his behaviour- he’s quite lazy, dirty etc round the house, doesn’t pay me compliments, and he’s only an ok dad, he does provide and cook for them and they don’t go without much, but he’d be happy to have DS in a dirty jumper, and sometimes I think he interacts with the dog more than he does me/the kids! Both his other two were unplanned when ex was on the pill, but I think he thinks she planned it , and it’s possible he thinks that now although I have told him I forgot the pill as I was so ill with covid (the sex was consensual btw, no forced sex).

I’m stuck because my heart wants the baby, but I know logically and sensibly it’s not the right time at all. OH said he wants to enjoy life with me more first- go on a holiday together, get each of our houses sorted, have the kids see our relationship develop before bringing a baby into it. But I’m the one who would have to live with it afterwards. And I’ll be 36 when the baby is born, what if this is my last chance? I can get my house completed in a few months so that will be straight, and although my parents live 200 miles away they miss me and both retired last year so I think they would move down into the 2nd bedroom, if I had to do it alone and we split up. I’ve not told them because of the drama of last time, and don’t want either to tell me to abort because we’ve not been together long. I wanted to make my own mind up and tell them at 3 months when they would have to accept it. My dad is turning 70 in April and my mum 65, this would be their first grandchild and I worked out I would be able to tell them the gender for their birthdays. My girlfriends are supportive of me whatever I decide. I’m the first in our small group to be pregnant and they are all single. I keep thinking, if I abort and we split up down the line, it might be too late to find someone and have a baby with them. On the other hand, if I don’t abort and we split up, at least I’ve got my baby/family and I won’t be too old to find someone new to have a relationship with. If they had kids too I wouldn’t feel like I’m missing out if I didn’t have one as I would have one. But also, I fell pregnant after one incident when 24, and probably only a few now, so if I waited to see if this is the right person, and build up more foundation with him it might not be too late, however I’ll never know.

This is the most difficult decision. I have an appointment at Marie stopes on the 29th for everything- due to them not seeing me on 24th- a scan, medical questionnaire, counselling and the procedure itself if I want to go through with it then. If I don’t I have to wait till 7th jan.
I’m so torn :( Any advice or insights would be much appreciated Thankyou so much

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Oliversmumsarmy · 29/12/2020 12:40

Get the boiler fixed and move in.
Everything else can be sorted later.

Once on your own and not surrounded by negative people who are only there to do as they wish you will begin to feel so much better.

Firegirl35 · 29/12/2020 12:40

I forgot to add, I also had a half hour counselling session on the phone in next room afterwards (did I mention that?) and they have put me on a call back list for tomorrow at my request. I feel like I need support in dealing with the aftermath of telling him and staying strong..

I also asked to see the midwife again and asked a few questions like exactly how far am I in weeks and days (there’s error in the machine so 8 weeks is her best guess), got an estimated due date for work, asked her more about me having covid during early pregnancy (she didn’t know too much about that), and anti sickness tablets... Aaand I asked her if I could see/keep the scan picture, I ended up having another scan and she showed me the screen this time and printed out the best image she could get from it, so I have my first scan picture in my pocket. I don’t think there’s any coming back now

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SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 29/12/2020 12:41

You have a good friend, from the North (us northerners are like that :) ) and you will manage. You are not reliant on this bloke for a home, and you have a career. It's all about what sad bloke wants isn't it? Ex 'tearing the family apart' (dramatic, much?) and can't be trusted not to spend 'his' maintenance money on beer and skittles... I would be very interested on her take on this. And he pushed her into an abortion too. Hmm..... Let the shit hit the fan. Although I chose the wrong father for my now adult DD, I wouldn't have been without her for anything. Flowers

Firegirl35 · 29/12/2020 12:51

He is a very good friend yes, there’s still decent men out there!

OH hadn’t pressured his ex into having an abortion, he didn’t agree with them but she was struggling with the two she had and probably he was little help. He agreed afterwards. So that experience I guess changed his mind out them somewhat although completely different situations

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EvilPea · 29/12/2020 12:55

Congratulations Flowers
Sometimes babies have other plans to the ones we made!

The more you talk about him the more I think your partner has a lot of red flags
The maintenance situation not what’s best for the children.
The “crazy” ex (I’m another who thinks her side would be very interesting)
Moving you in quickly, even for convenience
Introducing to the kids quickly
“I don’t want another kid” line.

Your getting to bunting point there.

My suggestion for your parents would be to put a copy of the scan picture in a card and post it to them. Don’t speak to them, their immediate reaction will only upset you. Your strong, you’ve made your choice, it’s not about them.

I have a feeling your dad will come through and your northern friend is going to make a great step dad Wink

Mooey89 · 29/12/2020 12:57

Ditch the dirty, messy, ‘only ok father’ boyfriend and have the baby alone. I left my ex when DS was 6 months and being a single parent is honestly easier! Good luck and congratulations on your pregnancy.

Marshy86 · 29/12/2020 12:59

Hi Op,

I've read your post from the start and I really think you want this baby it's the outside factors that are confusing you. Could you take some time off work and go stay with your friend? I think it would be good for you to take some time away from parents and OH where you are contactable and just look into everything. What can / can't you afford ect ? What benefits you may be entitled to and different support groups. It might all mean starting again from square 1 but it means you can rebuild around you and your baby. You can do this OP ! Xx

theantsgomarchin · 29/12/2020 13:09

Hi OP. I've only just come across your post but the overwhelming message from your responses is that you actually desperately want this baby. Not just because you don't want to go through an abortion again (although of course that is a valid reason), but because you actually want to have a baby. There are plenty of women out there who have done it on their own. You won't be the first and you certainly won't be the last. Yes of course it will be difficult but it sounds like you have supportive friends around you, and hopefully you'll also have the support of your parents.

With regards to your partner, firstly, him not knowing you'd not taken your pill is neither here nor there. The pill is not 100% effective and there are lots of factors that can limit its efficacy. If he doesn't want another baby, that's ok, but it doesn't mean he gets to decide that he doesn't want to contribute to raising it - financially or otherwise. Legally he is responsible for the baby, if he doesn't want a relationship with it then of course you can't force that, although truthfully it doesn't sound like you're 100% in the relationship anyway and there's an argument to be had for whether it's actually better for you to raise this child alone and happy, than in a miserable relationship.

Whatever you decide to do, make sure you're making the decision based on what YOU WANT, not what others are trying to make you do. You aborted your last baby when you didn't want to, don't make the same mistake again. Best of luck to you Daffodil

Mooey89 · 29/12/2020 13:20

Oh OP I’ve just finished your thread! I’m so so glad you didn’t go through with it.
I really feel for you with your mum. When I left my EXH my mum was unsupportive because I was a single mum and that wasn’t what she hoped for me. She wanted me neatly packaged up in a perfect family but that just wasn’t the right thing for me or DS. My ex was violent and I had confided in her and I’ve just had to accept now that she isn’t the one to go to for emotional support. You are strong and you can do this, you and your baby will be a team! Me and my DS are so close now, because it was just the two of us for so long. You’ve got this! 👊💪🏻

theantsgomarchin · 29/12/2020 13:25

The response from your mother is absolutely vile. Just because it's not the decision that SHE WOULD
MAKE, does not mean it's the wrong decision. You're a 35 year old woman, you don't need to be railroaded into making such a huge decision just because your mother "doesn't want that for you".

It also baffles me because imagine if you'd married this a-hole and had a baby together. Would that have been acceptable to her? What if you then got divorced and ended up as a single mother. Would she expect you to give the baby away because "you can't be a single mother?" There are NO guarantees in relationships, especially no guarantee that you'll be together forever to raise your children. Your mother needs to take a running jump.

Firegirl35 · 29/12/2020 13:28

Thank you everyone, it really means a lot Flowers FlowersFlowers I’m absolutely shattered as I didn’t sleep a wink last night, so I’m going to nap and tell my parents after. Maybe say to OH tonight that maybe I should move out for a bit... we are both off work together tomorrow so will want to avoid him. Can’t bear to be around his silence though packing up, may just take the essentials like knickers! I have to start eating better now as I’ve been living off toast the past month... I’ve ordered pregnancy vitamins to be delivered to my house.
It’s so wonderful to hear the positive stories and I really hope I am one of these and everything pans out ok xxx

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beautifulclouds · 29/12/2020 13:28

I’m going to go in and visualise my home with a little one in it Smile

Oh that's so beautiful OP! Smile You're just amazing! Look at what strength you had. You did amazingly facing your partner like that. I wish you the best and happiest pregnancy possible, and lots of lovely moments visualising your life with your little one in your home.

Firegirl35 · 29/12/2020 13:31

LOL @theantsgomarchin! Yep exactly. She can be quite like that... and she doesn’t think he’s good enough for me as he’s “only” a hairdresser. Her eyes light up if I’ve ever been dating a wealthier man. That’s her main motivation I think

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Firegirl35 · 29/12/2020 13:32

Thank you @beautifulclouds for being such a constant

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theantsgomarchin · 29/12/2020 13:35

I truly am in awe of your strength, against what everyone is trying to convince you to do, you've made a decision based on what YOU want and one day your child will be old enough to know that, and understand how much they were wanted and loved. I am 28 weeks pregnant with my second so I'm overly emotional anyway but truthfully, it is making me emotional to read your posts. Finally, someone on here doing what's best for them and not someone else!

spicyspringroll · 29/12/2020 13:37

Congratulations @Firegirl35 and well do for putting yourself first and choosing what you want. As I said I'm sure your parents will come round and even your partner in the end. But if not, you know what I have a feeling you're going to be a fantastic mum, you're already doing a brilliant job! X

Scottishskifun · 29/12/2020 13:40

I'm glad that you reached a decision that was best for you and not bullied into something that you didn't want to do.

I think your parents will come around and although your mother has been awful if they do please remember that everyone needs support wherever it comes from with a baby and sometimes moving past hurtful incidents is for the greater good long term.

As for your partner you can only see if he then decides to step up and be responsible. If not then your better going alone.

This forum does have crazy opinions but also is a great source of help to people. There are the antenatal forums, single parents forums etc you can always reach out 😊

pumpkinpie01 · 29/12/2020 14:06

I'm so glad you have reached that decision op and for you I think it's the right one. Time to concentrate on the future now - he may come round to the idea he may not but either way there is a little baby growing inside you and that's so exciting Smile

Sweetooth92 · 29/12/2020 14:27

Congratulations on making your decision. Enjoy the process and don’t let the parents or him sway you now xx

Scaredykittycat · 29/12/2020 15:09

I am really happy to read your update. You’ve made the right choice for you. Best Of luck xxx

Dawninglory · 29/12/2020 15:14

You are going to be a great mother Op, 🌻

Lililou · 29/12/2020 16:09

Hi @firegirl35, I'd hopped over from our Aug group as I'd been thinking about you. I've been following your thread the last few days and I'm so happy for you that you did what you wanted to do. The missing sounds like the most supportive person, even offering to be your birth partner, really restores your faith in humanity. I think moving out for a while will give you the time and space you need without OH pressuring you to do anything you don't want. It broke my heart that even after you told him the hard time you went through in there, crying, having a panic attack, all he could say was "I don't want another kid". How can someone that supposedly loves treat you so callously? You deserve so much better than this.

Lililou · 29/12/2020 16:10

*the midwife sounds

AbbieLexie · 29/12/2020 16:55

Flowers a very difficult time for you. Congratulations on your decisions.

Mangerfield · 29/12/2020 16:57

I'm going to be blunt - if he was that deathly opposed to having a child he shouldn't have ejaculated into a woman of fertile age. It's not all on you. He must know that the pill isn't 100% effective in each and every case, therefore he was willingly taking on this risk.
Best of luck op and please lose this horrible man.