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36 in June, pregnant with 1st after 5 months with OH who doesn’t want it

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Firegirl35 · 26/12/2020 15:36

Hi girls I’ve been reading and lurking but really need to share my situation for some advice..

I’m 35, no children and have found out I’m pregnant. I’ve been with the father just 5 months, we have had a rushed relationship as first date in July and then I moved in 2 weeks later mainly due to my house purchase falling through... I’ve now bought a house that needs some work doing and am currently still living with him.

He’s 37, has a 6 year old daughter and 8 year old son from a previous LTR which he was devastated ended in her having an affair, telling him she didn’t love him anymore and tearing the family apart. He took it hard as he was the same age as his son when the same thing happened to him. When we first got together he said he’s not against having more kids ‘one day’. His mum went on to remarry and have a baby when she was 42, so he is open to it, but also he seems to think age isn’t really a barrier.

We have the kids exactly half the week (so he doesn’t pay ex maintenance), and things have been great until a few weeks ago when his son started having sickness and anxiety at meal times.. he’s asked his dad why he’s not with mummy and even said he doesn’t want Christmas. I don’t know if going between two houses is upsetting for them, but the ex has suggested she has them more. He’s dead against this, he wants to see them more, and he also doesn’t trust that if he gave her maintenance it would actually be spent on the kids. I’m not sure if he’s controlling her with this. I have no relationship with her whatsoever, she seems a bit threatened by the bond I have with her children but I think she’s coming round. The whole situation is new and they are still figuring it out a bit.

Anyway, I tested positive for covid on Nov 30th. I’m a firefighter and once the two weeks isolation ended I still felt very ill with symptoms like fatigue and sickness that weren’t going away... so I got signed off work another 2 weeks. I tried to get anti sickness tablets prescribed, and was asked if I could be pregnant. I took 3 tests which all came back positive and it was confirmed by an out of hours GP an hour later..

I was in total shock and couldn’t stop shaking for hours. I called a male friend who has been very supportive, and I registered with a maternity unit as I wanted an early scan to date me... I think I got pregnant when I was ill, as I stopped taking the pill but we did have sex once. The week before that though I was fatigued, so I don’t know. I have ended up contacting Marie curie for a scan as I knew I could get in there quick, and they booked me in for Xmas eve. We left early but the motorway was closed and the diversion made us late for the appointment, so they wouldn’t see me :(

I told my partner a few days ago, and his reaction was “for fcuk sake”. Then “what are you going to do?” He’s since made it very clear to me in several heartfelt conversations how he feels about it all, that it was wrong as it was a very bad time, he’s still getting his head around the situation he’s in and the fall out from it, the kids aren’t totally settled yet (more his son), and he always swore that if he had kids again it would be when everything was totally right as he wouldn’t want to bring another “broken person” into the world as he puts it. He said that everyone else would think the same, and that it’s just a pill. His ex terminated their third which he was against at the time but thinks they would struggle to cope as they would have had two young ones.. His opinion of abortions now is that they are fine, as she was fine with having the medical one. And he says he’s glad as that’s one less kid he would have messed up. He tells me it wouldn’t work as he knows he’s not ready for another baby now, that it’s Horrific and you need to be rock solid. I think he believes that I will 99% get rid of it, after a frosty day or so we’ve been getting on better even making jokes, but that’s because he thinks I’m definitely having an abortion. If I say something against that, then it’s “I don’t want to argue” “we keep going over it” or “it’s doing my head in”

For me-
I had a surgical abortion at 7 weeks when I was 24. I had only been with the guy 4 months and he lived 200 miles away, he was fairly happy and we were going to keep it but I was scared as I was young, living in a flat with a girlfriend, suffering badly with an eating disorder, and extreme sickness. I told my parents and my mum went mental, made me feel stupid and like a kid and that it was a mistake and I wouldn’t cope. So I ended up going to a clinic, coming away as I couldn’t do it, facing the wrath from my mum and going back to have it. It fcuked me up for years, I went through phases of being completely obsessed with babies to deciding I wanted absolutely nothing to do with them (then my decision was justified). I moved to be with my partner, secretly hated my mum for two years it took me to forgive her in my head. I was with my partner for 8 years, so it would have probably worked out and we only split when I decided to become a firefighter and he didn’t want to move away again.

I told myself at the time of the abortion that I would never do that again. But also as I’ve got older I’ve seen the rough side of life with kids so have a realistic view which makes me appreciate time I’ve had single/free. I know babies/families are hard work, but I see myself with one in the future. (Near or distant not sure). It’s really hard being a step mum/friend figure to my OHs two , and makes me want my own. I missed out on the baby stage and toddlers... ill also never be the one they want when they’re ill, and mums Xmas dinner trumps ours, they want to stay at mums Xmas eve etc... the mum always wins. It hurts. I feel like I love them like my own but I don’t get them if that makes sense, and it makes the pain of not having my own more. I thought before I got pregnant, if it doesn’t work out with me and OH (haven’t been happy with his behaviour- he’s quite lazy, dirty etc round the house, doesn’t pay me compliments, and he’s only an ok dad, he does provide and cook for them and they don’t go without much, but he’d be happy to have DS in a dirty jumper, and sometimes I think he interacts with the dog more than he does me/the kids! Both his other two were unplanned when ex was on the pill, but I think he thinks she planned it , and it’s possible he thinks that now although I have told him I forgot the pill as I was so ill with covid (the sex was consensual btw, no forced sex).

I’m stuck because my heart wants the baby, but I know logically and sensibly it’s not the right time at all. OH said he wants to enjoy life with me more first- go on a holiday together, get each of our houses sorted, have the kids see our relationship develop before bringing a baby into it. But I’m the one who would have to live with it afterwards. And I’ll be 36 when the baby is born, what if this is my last chance? I can get my house completed in a few months so that will be straight, and although my parents live 200 miles away they miss me and both retired last year so I think they would move down into the 2nd bedroom, if I had to do it alone and we split up. I’ve not told them because of the drama of last time, and don’t want either to tell me to abort because we’ve not been together long. I wanted to make my own mind up and tell them at 3 months when they would have to accept it. My dad is turning 70 in April and my mum 65, this would be their first grandchild and I worked out I would be able to tell them the gender for their birthdays. My girlfriends are supportive of me whatever I decide. I’m the first in our small group to be pregnant and they are all single. I keep thinking, if I abort and we split up down the line, it might be too late to find someone and have a baby with them. On the other hand, if I don’t abort and we split up, at least I’ve got my baby/family and I won’t be too old to find someone new to have a relationship with. If they had kids too I wouldn’t feel like I’m missing out if I didn’t have one as I would have one. But also, I fell pregnant after one incident when 24, and probably only a few now, so if I waited to see if this is the right person, and build up more foundation with him it might not be too late, however I’ll never know.

This is the most difficult decision. I have an appointment at Marie stopes on the 29th for everything- due to them not seeing me on 24th- a scan, medical questionnaire, counselling and the procedure itself if I want to go through with it then. If I don’t I have to wait till 7th jan.
I’m so torn :( Any advice or insights would be much appreciated Thankyou so much

OP posts:
LaraLuce · 28/12/2020 20:59

At 38 your chances of conception are going to be slim. You don't have time to hang around waiting.

I think you have to proceed as if this will be your last opportunity to be a mother. So the question you have to ask yourself is, do you want to be a mother?

Firegirl35 · 28/12/2020 20:59

@iguanadonna your comment made me smile and feel better! Yes you are right actually Thankyou 🥰

I think waiting would be a good idea, my morning sickness is horrible though and it drags it all out more, if I keep I might want to just move out here ASAP!! Let’s see how many weeks I am and what happens tomorrow. Got an early start so bed soon, Thankyou everyone and I’ll be sure to keep you updated as I know you will be wondering and thinking about me as you have been wonderful. I don’t know what I’d have done past few days without MN Flowers

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Firegirl35 · 28/12/2020 21:02

My age is a concern and opportunity/likelihood of meeting someone.. MN seem to agree whereas according to my OH and parents I have all the time in the world Hmm

Although tonight the friend who has been supporting me and I have made a pact that if it doesn’t happen for either of us by the time we are 39/40 we’ll co parent together 😁

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LaraLuce · 28/12/2020 21:22

That's because mumsnet is full of people who actually have experience of TTC after 35 and/or being a single mother. Which your parents and partner do not.

KEG05 · 28/12/2020 22:10

I’ll be thinking of you tomorrow OP. Whatever you decide it must be what you want and only you. Because either way it’s you who lives with that decision. Everyone else will move on. X

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 28/12/2020 22:56

I think you're being very hard on your parents. They clearly care about you, have helped you get your own house and are offering to come and support you.

I'd be upset if my daughter was pregnant with a man who clearly didn't want the baby, is awful to his ex-wife and introduces his kids to a new GF within weeks of meeting her.

Your comments about his high sex drive are very worrying. As are your comments about having to wait another 2 years to try again for a baby with this man. Surely this relationship is over, regardless of whether you go ahead with the baby or not? So why would you even be thinking about 2 years from now?

You're only 35. You have time to have a baby within a loving relationship with someone who wants a baby with you. I personally wouldn't go ahead with this pregnancy. You're opening yourself up to a good 18 years of being tied to a truly awful sounding man.

ChickaboomZoom · 28/12/2020 23:09

@Firegirl35

There’s a zillion things I wish I could say to you but it would be an essay.

I’ve been on both sides. I terminated my very first pregnancy at 21 because I felt unsupported and I panicked despite desperately wanting to be a mum and have the baby. I regretted it deeply but went on to have 3 more children (with the same guy who I married then eventually divorced after 10 years). Last year I then had a baby with my “new” partner of 8 yrs. And last month I found out I was pregnant again. It was heart wrenching but I knew I couldn’t have the baby for medical and mental health reasons.

This time around I gave myself time to really think about what I wanted and to process and feel every emotion, good/bad/ugly. I went to my appointment at the clinic and I asked to see the scan. I needed confirmation of how I felt. They offered me the pills then and there but I declined and said I would come back in 2 days. In those 2 days I spoke to a counsellor and 2 close friends. I spoke to my partner. But mostly I thought about ME and made my decision based on what I felt was best. And I collected the pills and took them. I was 5 weeks along. I’m still confident in my decision and I truly think that has been helped by the fact that I took my time to consider the things that really matter and to make a choice not out of panic or pressure or pleasing anyone.

I’ll be thinking of you tomorrow, whatever you decide. But I would agree that you shouldn’t make a decision tomorrow either way. Give it time to settle and then decide. Hugs!

TildaTurnip · 28/12/2020 23:11

I think you sound as though you very much do not want an abortion. That’s enough reason not to. Others want you to but they’re not the ones who have to do it and live with that decision. It is not as easy to get pregnant in your late 30s and how many more years could it be before you’re financially happier or in a relationship that would be more supportive?

My friend is 38 and has had 5 rounds of trying for a baby alone through donation and IVF after trying in other ways. It is not happening for her yet. It may never. Too many friends have struggled to get pregnant. It is disingenuous for people to say you’re still young and have plenty of time.

As PP said, others will move on from what they have said. You’re the one who has to do it.

Kettlingur · 28/12/2020 23:24

It is disingenuous for people to say you’re still young and have plenty of time.

This is true. I started trying at 31, had my firstborn at 40. It took a lot of IVF, tens of thousands of dollars, and a lot of time. If you want a child and are pregnant after 30, I say go for it. Ditch the dude though if he's not on board.

Amira19 · 28/12/2020 23:55

Op i got pregnant at 21 i had ds and ex left me for ow I was single mom and later met dh who I've been with 10 years married 7 and had more dc. Listen to youre heart dont allow others to push you into doing something you don't want to do

Oliversmumsarmy · 29/12/2020 00:38

Reading about single parenthood scares me, how lonely, bored, depressed some posters say they are. It’s hard to know if I’d be setting myself and other people up for misery

In rl the most bored depressed and miserable people I know are those who have the responsibility of being a single parents while still being married.

The single parents I know are incredibly happy.
Yes it is hard work and Yes if things go wrong like fence panels coming down and boilers not working etc then they have to get someone in to do the repairs or do it themselves. And no it wasn’t instantaneous that everything just fell into place. My friend said she came home from the hospital without anyone to carry her bags or hold her baby. (Babies father has never acknowledged his dc and her parents refused to talk to her. She was 30 at the time. The taxi driver felt sorry for her and helped her into her house that had hardly any furniture and had bare walls and floors. She had only just moved in.
When he left she cried her eyes out as she was absolutely terrified.

She looks back now and thinks having her dc and being a single parent was the best decision she has ever made.

I take 2 things from your posts

  1. You don’t want an abortion. So please don’t have one

and

  1. You are surrounded in rl by people who are controlling/manipulative and have their own agenda.
Even down to buying you a house or researching the best car is about control. Has anyone asked you what you want?

I am NC with my family. My mother especially always did this thing where she would say I could choose anything but before being given the choice it was drummed into me about what choice I was expected to make.
If you went against her wishes she would shout and scream for days. Couldn’t leave the house or get away. The only way to get her to stop was to choose what she wanted.

Please have some separate counselling on this issue or I think you will be destined to have this throughout your life.
You are not a natural people pleaser you have just been trained to be one.

WhenPushComesToShove · 29/12/2020 00:49

Quite clearly you are wishing to please others instead of following your own wishes. Don't be bullied. It doesn't have to be tomorrow. You can have more time to think about it if that's what you need. Who cares if others are cross because you didn't follow their wishes. This is entirely up to you. What does your gut say. Giving in to please others will be very hard on you. Please take the time to make the decision which is right for you and only you. You will find a way to manage if that's what you chose. I'll be thinking you and hoping so hard that you do what's right for you

NCUT · 29/12/2020 00:57

Name changed for this, as I don't want anybody IRL to find out. Had abortion at 25 with my exH. Fell pregnant again with LTR at 35, but just knew it wasn't right. had an abortion again. LTR was on it's last legs, anyway. We separated shortly afterwards. Met my DH at 36, fell pregnant at 38, but this time I knew I wanted to keep this baby no matter what- we even did not live together at this point. Everything fell into places afterwards: marriage, DC1 at 39, DC2 at 41. Life is good, no regrets, but I thank my lucky stars I have been so lucky.
Lucking at your situation, I would think about single parenthood, and go on from there.

OnlyJudyCanJudgeMee · 29/12/2020 01:17

Apart from anything else, would you want to be tied to this man for the next 18 years? He would, probably, demand 50:50 with your child, too, so not to pay maintenance, but, as he doesn't want to look after his DCs, in your words, paying more attention to the dog than his kids when they are with you, he will need to find another girlfriend to look after his kids (x3). Will you be happy with YOUR BABY being looked after by some random new girlfriend(s), who have been introduced to your DC after few weeks- yes, my Darling OP, I am pointing finger at you! Sorry to be so blunt, but your partner doesn't sound like someone I would want to tie myself to for next 18 years.

beautifulclouds · 29/12/2020 07:34

I think you're being very hard on your parents. They clearly care about you, have helped you get your own house and are offering to come and support you.

People who say things like this simply have no idea what toxic, manipulative parents are like.

pumpkinpie01 · 29/12/2020 07:57

How are you feeling this morning op ?

AdultHumanFemale · 29/12/2020 08:27

Good morning, OP. Rooting for you today, sending courage and strength to follow your heart. I wish I had found your thread earlier. Please do not have a procedure you do not want to go through with. Go well.

BertieBotts · 29/12/2020 08:35

Just someone else offering a hand hold and strength to do whatever you decide is best. Flowers

Urbanewell3 · 29/12/2020 08:48

Hi how are you this morning; are you off to your appointment? Are your parents there or been in touch? Remember, even if you do turn up at the facility and them once you’re there, something doesn’t’ feel right, you can turn and go.

I wanted to mention, some of your worries about your child having an awful life due to finances and a crap father, well my son and I know from personal experiences that it doesn’t have to be that way. It wasn’t always easy but he always says he learnt so much from the way he grew up, knows how to do without and what’s important in life, even though he needn’t worry a bit about finances now because he’s done so well in life. He also says he learnt how strong and capable women are – I wasn’t perfect but he saw what I was able accomplish. He’s more of a feminist than I am!

Someone mentioned entitled to; here’s the full link:

www.entitledto.co.uk

Here are some other pages that might provide some information about financial assistance. Not all the programmes are based on need so there might be something there for you.

www.turn2us.org.uk/Your-Situation/Expecting-a-child

jobcentreplus.info/

www.gingerbread.org.uk/what-we-do/contact-us/helpline/

Wishing you all the best and keeping you in my thoughts. Let us know how you are doing!

Dawninglory · 29/12/2020 08:48

Thinking of you today Op, do what's best for you. If you dont think you can cope and terminate, it's no ones business but yours, no judgement. But I don't know if your relationships will survive either way, your partner and parents are not really asking you what you want. 🌻

trevthecat · 29/12/2020 08:53

Thinking of you today. Just read through the whole thread. No opinions from me. Just support

Scaredykittycat · 29/12/2020 08:56

Keep the baby. Get rid of him.

BrizzleMaverick · 29/12/2020 09:03

Hoping you are able to work out what YOU want from today. 💐

lyinginthegutterstaringatstars · 29/12/2020 09:07

Get some professional advice and counselling op. It's a big decison.
I'm pregnant myself and dreading telling my family. They live abroad so easy to hide atm. They have never been happy for me when I have told them of my other pregnancies.
Good luck op

NYNY211 · 29/12/2020 09:14

I know this isn’t your call but for me personally I think it’s too much faffing around for the kids to be at one parents house through the week and then at the other parents for the remaining weeks.

To be fair on your partner he has 2 kids, he isn’t in the best place to be having a 3rd child from your description. He has not known you long.

Time is upon you OP it’s not the best start. The reality is your 35 and I would risk the shit hitting the fan if it meant I was a single parent so be it. Good luck OP.