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Best newborn milk?

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mumtobee22 · 18/03/2021 17:45

Hi all what is the best milk for a new baby. aptamil, sma or cow n gate ? What are ur experiences? Thanks

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Mammyof22020 · 18/03/2021 21:51

I breastfed my youngest and then started combi feeding. I gave her kendamil. It smells lovely compared to some of the other milk i tried. She's still drinks the toddler milk now, loves it. Amazon sell it, if you have prime it comes the next day.

Holzawolza · 18/03/2021 21:52

@daisyoranges you can clearly see OP has asked about formula, reasoning for this has absolutely nothing to do with you, so this isn’t a space for you to spout breast is best.

brushlaptop · 18/03/2021 21:52

@daisyoranges I do agree with you, there is a reason that I kept on going through literally the hardest 6 weeks of my life to get breastfeeding going (give me a c section recovery ANY day over that ordeal 😂 I laugh about it now but honestly I was NOT in a good place at the time) but I think it's a personal choice and women really shouldn't feel pressure to do either, I guess what is right for your family and your situation. Happy mum happy baby! But all formulas are the same :)

MooreLew · 18/03/2021 21:54

Honestly hate these posts. When someone asks advice on breastfeeding, all the responses are positive and supportive. When someone asks advice on formula, everyone attacks the poster or tries to turn it into a massive formula vs breastfeeding debate ffs. People need to back off and learn to be kind. We all know breast milk is nutritionally best. However it's not when the mother is taking dangerous medication. OP isn't breastfeeding, her choice. Spouting the annoying statistics and drivel isn't going to change that. @daisyoranges you are seriously boring now.

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 21:54

[quote Pancakepipsqueak]@daisyoranges Again, no one said it was unutterable, or that it wasn't fact. Just that in this thread, it isn't useful or helpful.[/quote]
I think it is treated like it’s unutterable to be honest.

It’s not the first either - it’s fairly typical of a formula feeding thread when an OP asks a question about formula. Someone says ‘have you thought about breastfeeding’ and several furious responses ensue.

Someone posts about problems with breastfeeding and I can guarantee there will be several posts about formula and it’s fine to formula feed and don’t feel guilty - which is quite right but what I mean is that the fury (at suggesting formula feeding) isn’t there whereas it is if someone suggests breast.

I am a very firm advocate of people feeding their baby in the way that suits them and I totally recognise that it’s formula for some people. But it should be a choice. It ideally shouldn’t be ‘I had to do this because ...’

As I’ve already said I wish the OP the best.

SoCrimeaRiver · 18/03/2021 21:54

OP if you have one near you, Aldi do their own formula. Cheaper than the big brands. We mix fed and used it.

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 21:55

Oh sorry moore, I didn’t realise all posts had to be personally interesting to you.

AliasGrape · 18/03/2021 21:56

OP I hope you’re ok.

I wasn’t able to breastfeed. I thought I’d be fine with that outcome but as it turned out I wasn’t and it was a pretty major factor in me getting PND. Reading some of the replies you’ve had here and the fact that your perfectly simple request has turned into another ‘breast is best’ debate would have sent me over the edge I think when I was in the thick of it, and still managed to make me feel a bit shit now. People always love to bang that drum and then throw in that it’s only because they’re concerned with how low the UK’s breastfeeding rates are so you get to feel guilty for contributing to that too.

FWIW we’ve used cow and gate and it’s been absolutely fine. Never struggled to get it, the little ready made pre sterilised bottles were a life saver in the early weeks and we still sometimes use the ready made stuff for out and about. Baby has absolutely thrived and never had a single issue with colic, reflux, allergies etc which I realise is just sheer luck and nothing to do with formula but fuck it just thought I’d throw that in there Grin

MooreLew · 18/03/2021 21:56

@daisyoranges no but everyone is fed up of you keeping banging on about breastfeeding on a formula feeding thread.

Umbivalent · 18/03/2021 21:57

@daisyoranges

Oh sorry moore, I didn’t realise all posts had to be personally interesting to you.
Read the room.
Umbivalent · 18/03/2021 21:58

Like two PPs I used Hipp Organic, but it was easy because our local chemist stocked it.

The type of bottle can make a difference too. There are ones that regulate the amount of milk the baby is getting, so they don't gorge.

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 21:59

I don’t think everyone is, actually, and even if they were, I’m not posting with the aim of keeping some people entertained Hmm

Loftily informing someone that ‘everyone is bored’ is akin to a primary school teacher telling a misbehaving child that everyone is bored of them. It’s an unpleasant put down. By contrast, you’ll note I haven’t put anybody down.

I’ll also repeat that I was not able to breastfeed my baby despite really wanting to. I am not posting from a place of smugness or superiority. No one knows better than me how upsetting it is when it doesn’t work out. It doesn’t mean owl is wrong.

Holzawolza · 18/03/2021 21:59

OP - feed your baby however you choose to. Please don’t listen to the minority on this thread questioning your decision and spouting breast is best and generally being condescending. We support you.

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 22:00

Perhaps um you should discuss with MNHQ about only permitting posters on the site who you find entertaining or interesting. As I’m afraid the nature of Internet forums is that there will be disagreement: it doesn’t mean you get to insult posters off threads.

Umbivalent · 18/03/2021 22:00

Wow some people really are self-obsessed, aren't they Hmm

MooreLew · 18/03/2021 22:00

@daisyoranges do you realise the mental impact of pressuring someone to breast feed when they can't? Can you stop being so selfish for one minute? We know breast milk is best! No one asked that!!! Stop hijacking formula advice threads to tell everyone breast milk is best! She asked what formula to use. Not breast. How are you not getting this?!?!

Shandilarr · 18/03/2021 22:01

Choose whichever one your nearest Post office/corner shop/petrol station stocks. In case of emergencies.

SMA made my baby really constipated but C&G was great.

namechange63524 · 18/03/2021 22:01

We used aptimil. We bought a few brands to try and stuck with aptimil - sma gold made her very sleepy or maybe was just coincidence. Good luck OP and congratulations

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 22:04

If you read back through my posts moore I’m certainly not pressurising anyone. I am as I’ve said a strong advocate of choice. However I do believe that should be a real choice.

It should ideally be ‘I chose to formula feed because it best suited my life.’ Not ‘I had to formula feed because ...’

Why that has proved so controversial I don’t know and I do think that’s a shame. Breastfeeding threads are filled with posters saying it’s okay to formula feed: the reverse is also true.

Umbivalent · 18/03/2021 22:04

Oh yes, good point @namechange63524 - congratulations OP!! Flowers

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 22:04

Enough exclamation marks there moore? Hmm

Shandilarr · 18/03/2021 22:05

My babies would have all starved to death if I'd not had formula to feed them. I got zero advice on the different ones in those days too (2002-7)

AliasGrape · 18/03/2021 22:05

@daisyoranges the ‘fury’ is because the OP has quite clearly stated they can’t breastfeed for a medical reason.

Instead of just accepting that you get idiots still banging on about how it’s best though, maybe you should do some more tea search, find a specialist in another country and get them to tell your doctor it’s ok like a pp’s relative because being pregnant and having a newborn (and managing a medical condition) isn’t enough to bloody think about. And people ‘helpfully’ pointing out how much better for baby it would be, how much cheaper, how much more convenient when the simple fact is the OP can’t. So keeping on about it isn’t helpful or kind and could very well be making her feel terrible when all she needed to know is that there’s not much difference between formulas.

If she’s posted saying she couldn’t breastfeed and was sad about it, or wished she could, or was undecided whether she wanted to or not then there would be a place for the debate.

And yes, if a breastfeeding mum posts that she’s struggling with some aspect of feeding but really wants to keep breastfeeding i absolutely think the responses should be focused on breastfeeding and simply suggesting formula isn’t helpful there. But in that instance the poster COULD formula feed or combi feed if she so chose. In this case the OP CANNOT breastfeed so the magical merits of breast milk and the UK’s woeful breastfeeding rates etc are entirely fucking irrelevant not to mention unkind.

daisyoranges · 18/03/2021 22:06

Yet the same fury isn’t extended to mums who want to breastfeed having formula suggested to them, and I’m commenting on that. It is interesting, isn’t it?

Umbivalent · 18/03/2021 22:07

@daisyoranges

Yet the same fury isn’t extended to mums who want to breastfeed having formula suggested to them, and I’m commenting on that. It is interesting, isn’t it?
The fury is directed solely at you for being so insensitive.
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