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Fed is Best!!!!!!

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HotDawg123 · 26/02/2017 20:58

If you choose to breast feed - good for you
If you choose to bottle feed - good for you
But if you choose to be a breast feeding warrior and look at those who choose to bottle feed as scum then I hope you slip in dog shit tomorrow.

The amount of horrible women I've come across who are like this is too many now. And as I am heavily pregnant and have hormone rage it is really pissing me off.

Thank you for listening.

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ICJump · 27/02/2017 08:40

Have you read too the sad story of the baby that died during hurricane Katrina? There wasnt water available to make formula. The baby died. The mum when rescued needed help to treat mastitis. She had milk in her breast yet none of the medics that had seen her and suggested she put the baby to the breast. I can pull out a proper citation later if anyone need but it from Gribble et al
That because we live in a culture that doesn't talk about the risks of formula. We act as if it's just as good. Almost the same. But it's different and it's not simple.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:40

Bing a year? Dude that is amazing!

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:41

IC so because there COULD be a hurricane or natural disaster we should all breastfeed? No thanks.

bingandabong · 27/02/2017 08:42

Diana -- Thankyou so much X

LaContessaDiPlump · 27/02/2017 08:43

I was visited by HVs twice after each baby, and they had a very loose definition of what constituted a good latch IMO. I also found them rather poorly informed.

DS2 was mostly BF for the first 2 weeks after birth, but a MW told me to put him on formula because he'd lost too much weight. We double-checked ON THE SAME SCALES 2 days later and she MUST have weighed him wrong (he was thrashing a lot) because it was physically not possible for him to have gained that much in that time. I would have successfully BF him if not for her incompetence (I did try to continue but he demanded far far more after having his first filling meal of FF). DH used to refer to the bottle as his real food, which did hurt a bit. It's not like I had anything to offer though.

SausageFarmer · 27/02/2017 08:48

My friend got that pissed off with one of her midwives banging on about breast feeding that she told midwife that she's not breastfeeding because "that sort of thing is for hippies and tree huggers"

She doesn't believe that in the slightest but there's only so much you can take after you say no!

ICJump · 27/02/2017 08:48

No bing. The point is the medics need to understand breastfeeding.

They could have said to the mum.
" we know you've been using formula but it's possible you are still
Producing milk. While we wait for supplies do you want to put the baby to the breast".

ICJump · 27/02/2017 08:49

Sorry that for Diana.

fruitlovingmonkey · 27/02/2017 08:49

Breast is best.
Formula is a poor substitute.

Breastfeeding rates in the U.K. are abysmal. We need to change the narrative. If you formula feed and are happy with your decision, I don't see why you feel the need to shout loudly about it and try to talk over those promoting breastfeeding.
I will not be silenced just because someone "hopes I slip in dogshit".

Islacornx · 27/02/2017 08:51

If you are comfortable in your decision on how you feed your child then you shouldn't rise to people's comments, or get angry and upset if someone asks how you are feeding. It was your choice on how you fed your baby.

Some breastfeeding mothers, like myself, might not agree with formula but that doesn't mean we actually care how you feed your child. I don't personally like formula but I have never then gone on to insult someone because they chose to formula feed. I have lots of friends who formula feed their babies and that is okay as that was their choice.
Personally, I think a lot more people insult breastfeeding mothers as opposed to mothers who use formula. Formula is now seen as the norm and you never hear of women feeding their child a bottle having people coming over to them and saying they are disgusting and telling them they should go and give their child that bottle in the toilets, or that they're just trying to show off because they're feeding that baby a bottle and they should cover up

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:52

Oooooo mooooreeeee bitch plopping!

At least I know usernames of ignorant people to just avoid on here in future.

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 08:53

OP I agree, there is no need for people to be rude about your choices.
I at the end of the day it is about personal choice and what is best for your baby. Some babies really can't latch on and it makes it terribly painful for the mother and the baby also with excessive gas.

I did breastfeed both of my dd's, I received a lot of criticism for this also. People telling me it's easier to bottle feed so people can help you etc but both of my daughters just didn't get how to suck on a bottle. I did try but they would screw their faces up and lick the bottle like it was poo! Tbh though I was too lazy to make bottles 😬 dd 2 had a tongue tie as well which meant she would slip off me and I was so sore! Persevered with her for 11 months when she went straight on to a cup.

The health visitors etc didn't try to push me into anything they went along with what I wanted.

It doesn't matter what you do, you'll always encounter some negativity. That's life

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:53

I have never then gone on to insult someone because they chose to formula feed

That's because you're a normal and reasonable person

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:55

I did breastfeed both of my dd's, I received a lot of criticism for this also.

Sorry that happened to you Amy, that's dreadful I think it's a beautiful thing and I know how hard people work to make it work. I'm just a lazy mare!

ICJump · 27/02/2017 08:55

Also as a breastfeeding counsellor I regularly counsellor women to stop breastfeeding. Thier choice. I want them to do it safely and with care. I want them to celebrate the feeding thru have done. The feeding they will do. I might talk through responsive feeding, cup feeding, bonding without feeding. Alsorts
Indervidual breastfeeding support should focus

fed the baby
protect the supply
identify the problem
work for a solution Breastfeeding support is different to breastfeeding advocacy.

welshgirlwannabe · 27/02/2017 08:56

Breastfeeding is the biologically normal way for humans to feed their babies. Bottle feeding is, in the UK, the socially normalised way to feed babies.

Their is no point fuming at some mythical breastfeeding conglomerate making you feel bad - as someone who chooses to purchase and use formula you are in the majority.

Fed is better than starved, sure. But to say that food choices don't matter, at any stage of life, is obviously false.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:59

I think there needs to be more focus on what we feed Babies once they are weaned. It's all well and good giving them 'the best' (), but the obesity epidemic in this country would suggest are problem with food is a much bigger one.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 08:59

Our* not are. Grrrrr.

ICJump · 27/02/2017 09:02

I wholeheartedly agree with a renew focus on food. I hear there has been a bit of in uproar about eating 10 serves of veggies and fruit a day. That's just crazy.

WarblingWail · 27/02/2017 09:03

The only time I've experienced anyone being a dick about how a baby is fed, was at my local weigh in clinic when a group of mums started pointedly talking about me breastfeeding my baby and going on about how it was 'disgusting' to feed a baby that old (he was 5 months). It was a busy weigh in clinic day and I had to sit there for 20 minutes while they whittered on about it.

But, breast milk is better than formula for babies. That is different to saying breastfeeding is better than bottle feeding, as the method of feeding depends on the parent and the family set up. An unhappy mum with PND who can't bare having the baby attached to her constantly, or who needs to go back to work is obviously doing the right thing for her and the baby by bottle feeding. For someone like me who has a year off with my baby, and who can and wants to breastfeed and after the first few weeks found it easy, then yes, breastfeeding is better for my baby than formula (regardless of my MILs opinions on the subject).

Good luck with the baby.

skerrywind · 27/02/2017 09:05

the fucking breastapo for sure.

Why so touchy?

skerrywind · 27/02/2017 09:07

Breastmilk is more than just a food however.

Babies have a leaky gut for good reason- I would rather avoid having large cow molecules floating around in my baby's bloodstream. The consequences of this can last a lifetime.

welshgirlwannabe · 27/02/2017 09:08

Exactly Diana - the food we feed our children matters. On a population level as well as on an individual level.

Breastmilk is the best food choice for human babies. I sort of cringe typing that because I know it has the potential to upset women who have wanted to beeastfeed but couldn't. I truly don't want to upset anyone, least of all a new mother who might be struggling

But we can't pretend that these facts are untrue just because they can be upsetting. Especially when breastfeeding rates are so so low, and formula feeding is so so profitable

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 09:08

Thank you for saying that, Wail. Great post. I'm so sorry you experienced that, what bitches.

I didn't even want to go into it on here, but I half heartedly tried with my first to breastfeed and it made me feel very uncomfortable so gave in on day three. He was only 3 months when I found out I was pregnant again. With a wild toddler on my hands and still taking in the idea of having two small children so close together, the last thing I could have considered was breast feeding. Rightly or wrongly I wanted the convenience of bottle feeding. I knew I wouldn't have to establish it, I would be able to resume my life quickly and focus on getting to grips with running a house with 2 babies instead of 1. People will think me selfish but it saved my sanity and gave me one less thing to worry about.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 09:10

On with you skerry, go plop on someone else's thread.

Although saying that, you only EVER seem to appear on these threads. How convenient.

This thread proves there is a WAY of saying it and bring constructive and respectful, instead of being rude, dismissive and critical as you have been. HTH.

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