Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
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I got through my first pregnancy by staying in bed for 16 weeks and moving into my parents but not so simple when there is a child to think about! Just been out and totally shattered now. Got to do a bit of work tonight do and just the thought of sitting in front of the computer is making me feel sick.

Stress and tiredness definitely make it worse. I am trying not to think about how my week next week is looking - far too scary! I will just get through it best as I can and sleep all the time at home. And bring plenty of snacks.

Totes, did OH not mind you moving in with parents?

Hi all, hope everyone has managed an OK day?

Struggling today. I'm starting to feel sick, though haven't actually been so yet - last pg was more actual sickness than ongoing nausea - and am managing to eat and drink OK at least. But I'm absolutely shattered. DH worked all day, and DD has decided this is the week to drop from 2 naps to 1, which is joyous timing of her.

The sod's law timing of this is that I'm off work Monday and Tuesday and made plans to catch up with loads of friends over the long weekend. I'm sitting there grinning inanely and pretending everything is alright and I'm not exhausted and feeling sick and worrying. It's so hard. Tomorrow I'm seeing my NCT group, I know that the topic of baby no.2 will come up. I'm meeting them just after seeing the doctor. This is going to be awful Without having been through HG I just don't feel that anyone will understand me. I can't bear the thought of them being polite and understanding to my face and then talking about me behind my back. Or worse, all the 'helpful' suggestions they might come up with.

At least starting to feel ill is helping me feel certain this is the right decision for our family right not.

Hopefully tomorrow the doctor will give me something to get through the next few days. And my parents, who I thought were amazing before this, have said they will pay for me to go private if I want to, they fully support our decision and think it is best to get it over with as soon as possible. I'll see what the doctor says about timings but I might take them up on the offer.

Sorry for another self-indulgent post. I just want this to be over and done with.

I'm so pleased to hear your parents are so supportive. Really am.

Just a suggestion: You have a doctor's appt, no one else knows why. Why not act as if you've got a bad tummy bug / mild case of food poisoning? Covers the symptoms nicely. Cancel the NCT and ask your friends if you can rearrange. Unless you have already told one or two of the friends, in which case they're hopefully discreet and sympathetic.

good luck, Inneed, specially with the doctor. Wishing you strength and support. hug

Yes, I might well do that. I do want to see them, it's so rare for me to have a day off during the week. I'll see how I feel after the doctors. Hopefully it will all be nice and smooth, but I'll cancel if I feel upset.

Jen - DH moved in with me. He had to check on the house too but he stayed most nights. Thank goodness I have kind parents!

Inneed- I would go for the cancelling route!

hello. i was just browsing through mn worrying about hyperemesis and saw this thread. can i join you guys for a while? i have just found out i am pg with third baby. i have two boys and had horrendous hg with them both. i had another pregnancy that was symptom free and i miscarried that.
i am so worried about hg again but also worried that not getting it will mean something is wrong iykwim. i am 6 weeks now and feel sick all the time with some retching but no actual sickness. doc has said she will give me ondansetron as soon as i need it as i had this last time and the difference it made to my life was amazing compared with first pg. i really dont know whether to wait and see if serious sickness starts or get some tableta to deal with nausea and struggling to drink.
would anyone take the drugs this soon?

Hello Eggy :) congrats on the pregnancy and good luck, though sorry to see you here, if you see what I mean.

The best practise guidelines definitely say to start the meds early. Actually there is sort of pyramid of meds with cyclizine and B6 on the bottom, metaclopramide and then stemetil and then a couple of others til you get to ondansetron, the most powerful. But all best practise says start the meds early, becuase they are more effective than if you wait.

If you'd like to look fo ryourself, the NICE guildlines that doctors and hospitals -should- work off are here cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy Also, the british medical journel's last big article on nausea and HG, based on some good research from St Thomas' Hospital, recommends starting early.

so yeah, very much worth asking to go on the meds early.

good luck with the doc. He or she sounds better than most; it seems a bloody difficult job to find a doctor who is up to date enough to prescribe meds or know the recommendations on how to handle someone with HG.

Quote from NICE:
Early treatment with an anti-emetic is likely to be more effective and is essential to improve the woman's quality of life, symptoms, and reduce morbidity to the fetus.

i have moved area since last pregnancy and the difference in care is amazing. they seem so good here - coincidentally i was visiting this area last time when i was admitted with sickness and they were the ones that gave me ondansetron. i had an almighty battle to get more when i went home! they seem happy to put me straight in them here

I wanna move to where you are :o

in the netherlands they won't give you anything but the equivilent of cyclizine and B6. That's it. Someone in the UK, bless them, sent me some ondansetron but I don't dare tell the medical people becuase I'm afraid they'll say right, well we discharge you and won't deal with you (and my dutch mother in law thinks it's a risk too :s ). I don't want to be age 44 and at risk of pre-eclampsia and gestational diabetes and without any medical care at all :/

Equally Im nervous of taking meds without medical supervision.

this preg is all about fear. Fear of HG, fear of miscarriage, fear that the bond between my son and myself will be affected cause im in bed all the time; fear of the sickness, fear of the doctors, fear of downs, fear of not getting medical supervision in the preg. I hope they would take me into hospital at least for the birth. I'm tired of being sick and afraid.

Sorry, am just feeling sorry for myself today.

I hadn't read that info before Meerka but they didn't follow it at my docs.

Sorry you are feeling low. The first trimester sucks the most and even then I don't know how people drift about in pregnancy feeling confident! People keep asking me if I am excited and quite frankly I feel too effing sick to think beyond nausea! I can't really get my head around being pregnant at all even though this is a planned and wanted DC2. I also acutely feel like my relationship with my son has taken a back seat and that is what hurts the most about all of this but I keep hoping that in a few months time this wil all be forgotten and I will be back to being the primary cater.

Eggy - sorry you have joined us but welcome! You will find support here.

Meerka - I don't know how it works in the Netherlands but surely they won't refuse to treat you if you have insurance?

Got insurance but I am afraid yes. They can be pretty ruthless if you step out of line, and taking unprescribed-by-them meds, I don't know if that is over the line. Wonder if I'm being neurotic, but then mother in law is afraid of it too.

Didnt get any improvemnt at all til week 21 last time and even then the vomitting and nausea and spitting lasted right til the end. I just don't know how to get through it.

Eggy, welcome. Glad you have found us, sorry you have had to!

Meerka, I am so sorry you are having so many problems. I don't know what the doctors would do, but I know that I could not manage without the ondansetron.

I have had a busy/queasy day. We had the scan this morning! All is well, I was really nervous in case they found something wrong, but they seemed happy with the scan.

It's a boy! I can't believe it, I totally thought it would be a girl. It will take some getting used to, lol. OH is over the moon, everyone is. I am still in shock though. What on earth will I do with a boy? Ha

it does turn it all to worry and takes away so much joy. once i discovered ondansetron my second pg was so much better but the worry never leaves. i hope you all manage to sort the care you need. my ds2 has picked up a sick bug and i am now convinced that is what i have and the pregnancy has no symptoms and is not healthy. worry worry all the time! hope you have restful evenings x

Great news Jen!!

I panicked at the start of this pregnancy as I didn't have any sickness...ha!

Sorry you are feeling so low Meerka. I think we would all have got the meds v the risk. Do you think you can get away without telling them?

just a cautious word about gender finding scans

Someone I know was told baby was a girl.
bought lots pink stuff, knitted pink, painted walls pink etc.
she had a boy.

it hinges on the scanner's expertise

sorry to hear you guys are having it so tough.

I'd also be lost and a permanent inpatient without my ondansatron. need to get my repeat ordered, actually...

eggy I'd get on it sooner rather than later

choc I was told last time that if they think it's a boy they can be pretty certain, but not being able to spot a penis is no guarantee it's a girl. I know DS was really obvious, once he took the umbilical cord out from between his legs anyway.

I thought I had more Ondansetron than I did, had to get an emergency appointment with the doctor, but the pharmacy didn't have it. Got to go tonight and tomorrow morning without it :(

Yey Jen, another boy on this thread!!! I'm the same, I thought it was a girl and now im still trying to get used to the idea of a boy. Really happy but I still have to remind myself not to look at pink stuff

Meerka, I also agree meds was the best step. Sorry your feeling so bad xx

I have had another big day and realising just because I have a but more energy now, I really have to pace myself. A long day at ikea and asda has floored me. Only managed to eat some bloomer bread with butter for dinner. Doing too much definitely makes me more sick.
I must admit, once I hit 22 weeks I felt a huge improvement. Some days are still horrendous and evenings not too good but definitely better overall. The smell of supermarkets makes me heave. As soon as I walk through the door it makes me want to run and vomit. Also most meat, especially chicken. Just the thought makes me nauseas.
Really pleased I'm coping so well with dh away. Only 10 more days to go. Bathroom nearly complete and my bed finally arrives tomorrow, so no more sleeping on the floor!! A good job too as my back and hips are killing me. This past week feels like a lifetime. Ill never take my bed for granted again.
Having lots of discomfort and stretching pains in belly too. Can't wait till this is over, three and a bit months to go :-)

I do NOT go near chilled meat aisle
URGH puke tastic

brill news on the house, sally

LOL Mog - umbilical cord/ willie confusion :-)

For those who haven't foud out the gender, what do you think you are having? I'm convinced it's another boy, DH reckons girl. We both thought DS was going to be a girl.

alright then ladies?? more boys i see... Jen great news!
sally, champagne all okay too??
i am just back from holiday abroad. was lovely and warm and i felt good the whole time.
but.... went for my 20 week scan today. currently 21 weeks. got the dreaded silent treatment from the sonographer... she kept re measuring something over and over again then said she needed a 2nd opinion. turns out they are concerned over some of his pelvic renal measurements. few concerns over his kidneys. one appears to be enlarged and maybe blocked. also a possible duplex kidney.
it was awful. was in there for 2 hours. i have been reffered to pre natal diagnostics who will call me in a few days. still don't know what the outcome of this will be. had a quick look and kidney issues don't appear to be massively serious in general but its still so worrying! xx

Oh feek darling, keeping everything crossed it turns out to be nothing for you!

oh feek, fingers x'd here too, best of luck to you