Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
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[Meerka]

if its any help, that advice is for the very very best in nutrition for your baby. In actual pragmatic fact, the little bast - the darling little embryo will actually strip you of all your nutrients and then some, before going without. The only one its really, really good to be able to get down you is folic acid for the 1st 12 weeks.

It does happen that it gets bad enough that it does have an effect on the baby, but with medical treatment its extremely rare indeed now. HG is not good for anyone, but the baby will be the last to suffer not the first.

The baby looks after itself. Be reassured, you're the one in trouble, much less likely it.

[Meerka]

hm having said that, there's reasons why people like MoB and Sally and other mums end up in hospital put on drips and steroids. It is necessary. But until that point, and as long as you have a good sensible HG-aware doctor, you should be fine. Or at least, the baby should be fine. Just keep an eye on your dehydration levels

[momentofmadness0]

Hi everyone. I'm new here so thought I'd better say hello properly. I'm 30 weeks into my second HG pregnancy. The vomiting has been largely under control since about 20 weeks with the help of ondansetron and omeprazole but I'm still getting daily episodes of nausea and retching. I've had 3 good days this week where I felt completely normal and was hoping that I'd turned a corner and was finally starting to get over this horrible condition. Was brought down to earth with a bump today by constant all-day nausea and 2 lots of vomiting. I have really had enough now, I am just so fed up of feeling so rough. My poor DD is only 3 years old and looks so worried every time I start retching or vomiting. I try to reassure her that I am fine but she doesn't look convinced and I am sick of worrying her, burdening my hubby and being unable to function normally when feeling bad. Sorry that my first post here is a self-pity one but I am feeling so sorry for myself today and nobody IRL really understands except my mum who had it twice and she is away at the moment so I can't moan to her. Sorry to see so many other ladies suffering too, sending a hug to anyone who needs it.

[Meerka]

oh please please dont worry about moaning - we all do it. We all need to at times! and my god, we have cause. so please, be welcome and freely speak away!

I think sally is as far ahead as you are (is that right?) at 30 weeks too. from the perspective of 11 weeks here, 30 weeks seems like its on the final stretch of hell heh, but god, can so so identify with the being totally fed up of it all. Does your daughter understand that you are growing a baby and that that's whats making you ill? though at three, its hard to know if she really understands ..

I hope your mum is back soon. the lonlienss of HG just makes everything much worse :(

[Sally8655]

Evening all

Meerka I'm 25 weeks, wish I was 30. I too am not as bad as earlier. It did start to improve around week 20ish and the past couple of weeks have been my best. However still far from normal. I'm still sick quite regular but able to eat a bit more therefore giving me a bit more energy. Meat is still a no no. Living off carrot and coriander soup at the moment.
Feeling anxious about having my yearly flu jab but as I've already had an awful bug and a cold it's probably a must.
Feel quite out of sorts at the moment. I'm pretty sure I've got a urine infection as I've got awful pain and the usual symptoms. Back to hospital again on Monday as I'm having a full diabetes check too. I seem to feel like I'm floating after eating, very strange. Unfortunately diabetes runs in my family.
Quite fed up of all my complications now. I've lost count of the issues I've had to face since becoming pregnant.

Xxx

[Totesamazeballs]

Hi everyone. I hope you don't have a uti Sally. I would say drink lots of water but chance would be a fine thing!
Eggy - feel exactly the same about eating crap and annoyed at myself for it. Need to eat much more to keep things under control this week but feeling better too. Scrabbling around to find something other than crisps and white chocolate and oranges at the mo. I eat something and it either keeps the sickness at the same level or makes it worse. If it makes it worse then I try something else to cancel it out. It's like one big experiment!
Moment - well done for getting to 30 weeks! That seems like a long way away for me!

[eggybrokenoff]

hi moment

moan away it helps get if off your chest. the lonliness is one of the worst things i think. i got depressed during first pg cos it wasnt treated and the isolation was teerible. chatting on places like this can really help.

when you felt better did you rush around like a mad thing trying to catch up with jobs and do active stuff with your dd? that can cause a bit of a relapse i find.

sally so sorry you are still suffering so much. hope they come up with helpful management strategy for you

[momentofmadness0]

Thanks ladies. I do feel bad moaning because I am so much better than I was. When I think back to how bad I was in first and second tri, I really have nothing to complain about now with a bit of nausea and retching and occasional vomiting. I think it just hit me harder because of the good days; I stupidly got my hopes up that I was getting better. Won't be making that mistake again, back to taking each day a it comes.
To anyone who is worried about baby not getting enough because you can't eat properly-try not to worry as baby will take whatever he/she needs from you. I had HG all the way through my first pregnancy and ate rubbish all the way through. In first tri-the only thing I could stomach was crunchy nut cornflakes. My DD was 9lb 2oz at birth and completely healthy. So they do still manage to get whatever they need.
Sally- hope the diabetes check is negative, HG is miserable enough on its own without adding in GD. And hope the UTI clears quickly.

[feekerry]

morning all.
all okay ish as you can be with hg???!x
sally i too approve of carrott and corrandir soup. weird as i wouldn't normally eat it but it seems to stay down well.
23 weeks now and had a rough week after milk gate. still feeling v sick in the evenings. day time is fine. still taking the meds but reduced amount.
aghhh i so cant wait till Feb!!!!

[Meerka]

morning fee.

Sally I'm so sorry for the urine infection. Just what you really don't need. Good luck with the diabetes check.


I am livid atm. this doctor and hospital have been filling me full of nothing but bullshit. IN the NL you are allowed to prescribe mroe than (the equivilent of) cyclizine and B6. You're alllowed to prescribe several other drugs including metaclopramide and yes, zofran.

they LIED to me. The weakeness after the first preg affected the bonding with my son, and now it's happening again, i see him for 30 seconds i the morning, 3 mins after school when he comes up tot he bedroom and 3 mins before his bed. He's wetting the bed again and naughty and can't concentrate at school, the teacher sent me a worried email. Thes ..... man, I better not type more, or I'll get banned. I am ... beyond polite words.

My husband is away atm but as soon as he's back I'll be looking to change hospital.

[eggybrokenoff]

meerka that is fecking shocking and disgraceful. you must be just so fuming and ragey.
i guess though in a twisted way it is also good news - once you get in the care of someone with a medical degree you might actually get medication that will help you.

[MurderOfBanshees]

In my first pregnancy I barely ate at all, I think I survived on plain toast and flat lemonade for almost all 9 months. DS was born absolutely healthy with no problems, so while it would be good to eat the "right food", the baby will get the nutrients they need even if you don't. You will go without as they'll just take from you, but the baby will most likely be fine.

[MurderOfBanshees]

Oh meerka the utter cunts :( What is it with so-called medical professionals and lying to women with HG?!

[jenpatnim]

Meerka, that is shocking. How dare they?

Welcome to moments, I am 22 weeks and battling nausea and taking ondansetron. Thankfully the vomiting is few and far between for me now. I find tiredness to be a big problem.

Also have (on dr's advice) reduced my antidepressant to 10 mg every other day, and am struggling a bit with that. I am getting very down and not copping with things that I would normally cope with. I wonder do I need to go back up? I hate having to deal with this on top of everything else.

[ChocChaffinch]

ah Jen you're doing brill but hyperem is a depressive condition, so you need to listen to yourself and if you need your meds you know best;

[Sally8655]

In the hospital for all my tests. Nearly didn't make it as I had an awful night. Have to wait for 2 hours in a waiting room for the glucose drink to do its stuff. Not allowed to leave the department so this is going to be hell. Especially with the bloke sitting next to me eating beef crisps. Yuk.
How's everybody doing?

[MurderOfBanshees]

How long have you got to be there Sally?

[Sally8655]

2 hours, then a re test of bloods. Hoping to be seen again soon so I can get back to my bed!

[eggybrokenoff]

urg sally they are determined to torture you! beef crisps grim. dh ate some cheese crisps and i coukdnt have him near me til he had brushed his teeth. hope all this results in good news for you

[LucindaE]

Moment Welcome, never feel guilty about moaning, you have every cause, particularly when it's gone on for so long. Omprazole - I hadn't heard of that one? DD will get over it quickerthan you might believe from my experience on these threads.
Sally Poor poor you, gentle pats, how foul, particularly the beef crisps, I don't think people should be allowed to eat outside cafe areas in hospitals. Hope all is well, you have had so many complications, it isn't at all fair.
MoG Have you had your tests yet?
Eggy andTotes I so agree with all comments about baby being the last to suffer from a diet of rubbish- that's one of the reasons you feel so awful - the baby takes all the nourishmnet, and it is dreadful the way it seems to be junk food that stays down.
Sally and Feekerry Congratulations on the carrot and coriander soup. That is unusually healthy for this thread. Feekerrry 'Milk gate'?
I must be being obtuse, not sure what you mean.
Meerka Hugs. That is so maddening, I am outraged that they LIED to y you about what they were allowed to give you. At least you can get some effective meds now. Try not to beat yourself up about your son. I know it's easy for me to say, I didn't go for it twice, but children are very resilient. He will get over this blip - and he'll have a companion, too, in due course.
Jen Sorry about depression, hugs. Hyperemesis is depressing anyway, even when it tails off a lot, exhausting and isolating.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.
Lucinda
xx

[Tallyra]

hi all. sorry I'm pretty absent here. I've been finding it hard getting my head around how long I've been sick and how long it still could go on. I'm 13+4 today and desperately hoping things improve in the next few weeks.

meerka, I've just been reading the spewing mummy blog - have you tried this Netherlands forum that Caitlin links to ? www.steunpunthg.nl/phpBB/
sorry, on phone so can't make it clickable off the top of my head.

[Meerka]

HIya Tally ... I have tried it but sadly my Dutch is poor. But I've been speaking to an english lady from it. She's the one who gave me the info about the meds - the accurate info - and the name of a possibly-better hospital. thanks !

Hope you are feeling a bit better soon ... its a long long haul isnt it :(

Sally hope you're home and the tests went ok.

[Sally8655]

Hi all, I'm home and feeling pretty rubbish. Meds don't seem to be doing anything for me lately.
Find out results of tests Wednesday. Hoping for no more problems!

[jenpatnim]

Hey there. I am nearly 24 hours ondansetron free and not overly sick. My appetite has suffered though, I am not hungry at all. I feel really bloated and windy. Weird.

[ChocChaffinch]

are you still lactulosing jenn? it'll be your bowel returning to normal?

have tried to leave doses later but not brave enough, and the times Ive forgotten Ive felt so awful I know I can't lose a dose yet.
Threw up today after lidl shop as was hungry, vommed up some cheap jelly sweets and it was utterly vile bile. Vile tasting. worst ever.