started this weekend - anyone want to join me for a support thread?

[hawthers]

Need some hand holding and problem solving as can't get my head around how it is supposed to work.

Thanks ralph for the suggestions. I guess the pants thing will just take time and I will look for a suitable step when we get home. The sweets thing is more of a conundrum, as she has shown no interest in stickers or anything non food related as a reward before. I was quite anti-bribery for desired behaviours before all this, so have probably just proved my instincts right!

Hi bat we are 2 weeks in and now he forgets to ask for a smartie every time so i think it will just phase out naturally.

(god is it only 2 weeks - feels like 2 years)

well, today is going much better, 2 poos and 3 wees in potty by lunchtime with only one accident. Dd is starting to hold onto herself as a wee is coming so if you are quick you can plonk her onto the potty but you do have to watch her like a hawk.

There is a lot of tv watching in our house to facilitate sitting on the potty.

We have cancelled camping due to bad weather so I think we should be able to make some good progress this week.

Glad it's going well blacktea today!
Had a good morning few wee's with the aid of bribery. I see the signs and convince him to go.
It's going out which I find the problem, he just wee's in the pull ups which is fine and I take them when we are home and he will be bare bummed again!
He is at the child minders tomorrow so I don't know what to ask her to do, I'm not sure he can wander about bare bummed all day?
So hard to know what to do so I don't mess this up for him.

My nursery have said to put d in pull ups and thenn they will take her to thetoilet at least once an hour. They said they are happy to do a sticker chart too. Would your cm do that?

I think we're going down the pull-ups when we are out routw, just because there is a limit to how many times you can change wet clothes and it doesn't serve any purpose. He's pretty much got wees at home but is hopeless when out. Still only poos in pants. We want to go out and do things - really can't envisage staying in for a week and pull ups make it possible. Will use them for nursery also at this stage.

I'm in two minds whether to give up at the moment. Things haven't really changed in that DS won't have accidents as long as we take him to the toilet every half hour, but won't ask to go and always says no if we ask him if he needs to go. I think he's physically ready, but don't think he's emotionally ready, so not sure whether to leave it for another month or so. DH is still at home tomorrow, so going to carry on tomorrow in case we have a breakthrough, and then decide if we will carry on after that.

Good luck Whispers, we are at the same stage. Only one accident yesterday but I put her on the potty/toilet every time. If we put dd in a nappy to go out/ overnight she is very reluctant to take it off and we haven't ventured out of the house nappy free yet.

How do you get them to the stage where they tell you/ take themselves to the potty?

I have no idea! I wouldn't mind if he was asking to go but having accidents because he was not making it in time, but it's the not asking and not caring that gets me!
We have been going out of the house nappy free, but only to 'safe' places like my in laws, although he did manage to be in the car for over an hour yesterday without peeing, and most of that time he was asleep!! So frustrating that I know his bladder is capable when it seems his mind is lagging behind!

We gradually increased our excursions. I shat myself (well not literally) every time we left the house for the first week and we didn't have any accidents. But I did have to nag him to go to the loo. And look for the signs he need to go. He does sometimes say when he needs to go but frequently I suggest that be should go if it has been a while.

Ugh, first poo in pants experience. It seems like he genuinely doesn't understand the difference between nappies and pants

Oh pants arse shit bugger. (sorry couldn't think of a non appropriate expletive!

Am reading this thread with great interest... We started potty training DS on Friday and it's been relatively fine with a few accidents here and there. Sent him to nursery today (bearing in mind that he hasn't had a wee or poo outside of the house yet) so am very nervous!

Argh. Decided to back off a bit to see if dd could tell when she.need the potty. 2 wees in potty first thing followed by two accidents. Now she is refusing to get on the potty so i have resorted to pull ups.

We are giving up tomorrow

I am a SAHM, is it wrong that I have spent this time wishing he went to nursery so that they could do the hard work help out?!

Katmumsnet- is your DS ok being in pants?
My DS is great when he is bare bummed but I think we need more practice at pulling pants up and down had 3 accidents today.

If I go back to bare bummed I worry I will confuse him!
My poor brain, this is so complicated.
Hope your DS does well today.

Maybe try again in a few weeks Whispers?
It's quite draining for all involved I think!

@seabuckthorn

Katmumsnet- is your DS ok being in pants? My DS is great when he is bare bummed but I think we need more practice at pulling pants up and down had 3 accidents today.

If I go back to bare bummed I worry I will confuse him!
My poor brain, this is so complicated.
Hope your DS does well today.

Thanks :) DS loves his pants, it wasn't very difficult trying to convince him - probably because they have tractors all over them! Also, he likes things to be neat and tidy (he hates mess, being dirty, or even if his sleeves are rolled up, he'll immediately pull them down).

Though like your DS, he has difficulty pulling down his trousers and pants. I realise now that I should have planned ahead and bought more trackies and less jeans!

But we are still making no progress with poo. Not even attempts to get them anywhere other than his pants...

feel like we've wussed out today. Was out from 9-3 so put DS in pull-ups which he has obviously just treated like a nappy. The same again tomorrow - am hoping we don't lose momentum but can't take 15 changes of clothes out with me and it will spoil what is supposed to be a nice day out. Also, DS constantly playing with his bits through the pants - any ideas? hawthers same here on the poo.On another thread someone said they tipped the poo from the pants into the potty, pretended he'd done it and made a big fuss which worked

Hi everyone. It seems like mixed progress all round from catching up on this thread. We travelled back from holiday yesterday and already being back home seems to have changed everything. DD managed 12 hrs of travelling yesterday (ferries, plane, cars and taxi) without a single accident and then had one at home yesterday evening and one this morning before nursery. Off to nursery this morning and am worried about how the day will go. It is so busy at drop off time that managing to properly tell someone how we've been doing it and what I'd like them to do was very difficult. As expected they won't do sweets as rewards so fingers crossed (although she has asked for them less in the last few days).

She will be at home with me tomorrow so will have to run the gauntlet of people's reactions when out and about. I think I may have lost my British sensibilities in the Med where no one even seemed to notice potty use in all manner of venues, but got a reminder on the plane when an air hostess told me off for letting DD use the potty outside of the toilet. It wasn't by choice, I just couldn't work out how to squeeze the two of us and the potty into the cubicle! Apparently this was unacceptable near to other people who might be eating, which I can honestly say had never occurred to me. Has anyone else experienced this sort of reaction?

Bums. DS has wet seven pairs of underpants so far today.

Seems bare-bummed is fine, but he's confusing nappies/pants like yours seabuckthorn. Sigh.

This is hard work isn't it!

marks place, we started on sunday

sometimes it seems to going great and others (mainly mornings) more mixed.

been out a few times and i literally hold the potty all the time, ventured to baby group today.

dd is 2yrs 3 months (and have ds 8 months)

reading though I am glad it is mixed, I brought into the myth that once ready it just takes 3 days and am/was feeling guilty

oh we have been using a reward system wgich in itself feels wrong but is working.

dd seems to have a odd weeing pattern of not going for ages then every 10-20 mins. Is this normal for starting out?