Sept 08: How do we like our eggs in the morning? Fertilised, or completely and most definitely unfertilised?

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A brand spanking new thread where we can chat about the state of our eggs, SWI, our veg patches and any other topic we fancy

Hello new thread!

mmm, nice!

ILYMIMI its hilarious that the one thing you don't mention in your OP as a discussion topic is our LOs who were born in Sept 08; the very people who brought us all together!
On which note ds is being so cute, he's regularly using two words together and sometimes three, and his signing is really helping us to understand what he's trying to say. He's loving toy cars and aeroplanes, but his favourite thing by miles is still to empty the recycling and match all the bottles with all the lids and sit there for hours screwing them on and off again!

Ah yes, just the small matter of our lo's!

DS loves bottles too. Give him an empty plastic bottle and ask him to collect stones in it and he's away. Whilst he's doing that I'm stretching out on a sun lounger reading a book

Of course do understand that I only do that as it is important that he learns to play by himself without an adult's input Not because I am a lazy cow who really needs to get rid of the pasty arms and legs!

ILTMIMI that's a genius idea! Our garden of stones is perfect! That's this afternoon sorted then

digi Pleased to hear they are going to keep an eye on you when you are pg again.

My leeks aren't growing very well, I thought they were meant to be easy .

ahhh...cleaning done, load of washing on, my new books have arrived (yay!) and so now I can officially sit on the sofa watching "30 Rock! Love that show!

I am now a rep for usbourne books and am very excited about it....am not going to earn millions but if I can get enough commission to buy my boys some books I will be happy.

Have got tons of ironing to do but have just lost the will to do any more work today

digi After my last mc they also gave me a direct line to the EPAU and it was great as when I was pregnant with Toby I got a 6 week scan, a 10 week one and then the 12 week nuchal scan too...I found it very reassuring as I took the last mc hard Also, I became pregnant again straight after the mc (i.e. no period between mc and new pregnancy) so be aware it can happen again quickly! x

Found you all! I love the thread title
Glad your getting lots of support dig Baby E has now been refrerred for speech therapy. There is a six months waiting list though so I am hoping he is talking by the time the appointment comes thru. I am now enjoying the peace for a while .
Off to keep fit in a minute phew! It never stops this end. xxx

Bless you mama that E is going for speech therapy. I bet by the time of the appointment he's chattering away!

Talking of appointments I had my scan today...ovaries and uterus given a clean bill of health! So back to the docs in two weeks for the full low-down on all the results and discussion of the way forward. Really don't know if she'll refer me for the investigation for endometriosis (its under general anasthetic) but I hope so.

carrie hooray for healthy ovaries and uterus. Did you ask if you were anywhere near ovulating?

I asked and apparently I'm not - which isn't unusual this soon after a miscarriage. But I'm feeling odd crampy sensations today so something's definitely beginning to creak back into action.

bec sorry you've already mentioned this, and feel free not to talk about it if you don't want to, but how many miscarriages did you have and how far along were you?

mama how come E's been referred? Did you take him to the GP about it?

Hello to new thread - although I feel a little left out that I'm not SWI and I haven't been organised enough to have a veg patch I can't say I'm sorry not to be counting days etc (althoug tbh I never did that)

M very sweet too but also a pita at meal times. Everyone else's food is more exciting than hers and she has a couple of mouthfuls and then wants to be on the go.

digi 4, but all very early...furthest along was 8/9 weeks. The last one I had (dec 07) I was exactly 6 weeks. It started at work which wasnt nice All over by the next day.

I also had a threatnened mc with ds1 (I think he may have been a twin).....in fact the only pregnancy where I havent had bleeding was with Toby!

Would love more but just cant put my poor knackered old body through that again

Hello new thread. Feel a bit like NINJA no veg patch and no need to SWI, although that doesn't us. Why do you get so horny when you are pregnant??

Happy times here, have got DS into overnight respite twice a month. Have been thinking it over for a while now and our new social worker encouraged us to go for it. Had the panel meeting last week and see the workers today to sort out his first night.
Am looking forward to it but am equally anxious as to how he will cope being away from home.

Robyn has become quite clingy and hates it if I go on the computer. She is watching FiFi on DVD atm so will be occupied until lunch. She is happy playing on her own if I do pots or tidy up but computer or read a book and she gets angry.

Am having to cut down on breast feeding. It is agony atm, is it due to pregnancy hormones, or lack of milk?

Hello again.
No idea what my eggs are doing. Found the referral letter yesterday and phoned hospital to say it'd been a month, any chance of an appt? They're getting back to me.
Meanwhile my medical notes have been well and truly lost between old and new GP, which solves any dilemma about having anything I didn't want on the new NHS SPINE centralised record...

Poor A has been having bad constipation again - had to collect him from nursery yesterday. GP says it's chronic rather than acute which means different treatment. So yesterday afternoon involved getting a pessary to stay up his backside, and the eventual consequences. Which at least made A feel better. MrNC came down and said "I never thought I'd be so glad to have a house smelling of poo!" Now just have to persuade him to eat again.

In between blockages, though, he's being absolutely charming and has even had a professional haircut (grandma was having hers done - they didn't charge as said only did 90% of it). He was very impressed by a Japanese restaurant we went to on the weekend.

And we're having carpet installed in our loft next week! You may recall this is where we hoped to be when A was due... We're also having vinyl put in the dining room as the carpet was getting way too manky. Can't wait.

I bet you E is chatting away by the time your appointment comes round, and if he isn't, well you've got the help there.

debs - I would imagine it's being pg that is causing your sore nipples. Most people's nipples are sensitive during pregnancy, nevermind when they're feeding as well! But just incase go back to basics and check that the latch and positioning is all ok.

M has FINALLY learned how to go up and down the slide by himself and now there is no stopping him. He always used to climb on a few things around the house but in the past week or so he's become a lot more adventurous and adept at it. Eeekk

oh bec four? That's heartbreaking. I take it they weren't consecutive. But amazing you managed to get pregnant straightaway with Toby after your last one. Obviously, I'm hoping for the same thing to happen to me - although I know it might not happen so quickly (or so successfully), tbh I was surprised I managed to conceive again on the third proper cycle after the last mc.

I also thought that one day I would like to have three (finances allowing). But I never thought it would mean the possibility of more miscarriages to get there.

DS had an unexplained crying spell last night. We were up 3:30 till 4:30, then he cried on and off till about 5. Tried milk, water, nappy change...reminded me of the newborn stage again! Why did I think it was a good idea to have another go?

Dd has got chicken pox fiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally! I've exposed her to it so many times and at last she's got it, really hoping ds gets it too. Thankfully grandma is here for the week while we're housebound.

DG I was on day 2 of my cycle so no ovulation. DH is getting fed up of scheduled SWI, need to appear more spontaneous!

NC so sorry the NHS are getting you lost

digi I can be very philosophical about them now...if they hadnt happened I wouldnt have ds1 and ds2, but at the time it was awful.. I had 2 incomplete ones which made me very ill as the hospital refused to believe me when I told them something still wasnt right....ended up losing what was left of my baby down the loo in a lot of pain on my own one afternoon about 2 months after the supposed mc...not nice

Its strange though, the last mc was over so quickly, bit of pain but all over in a week and yet it was the one that affected me most emotionally....I was a wreck. Maybe because it was the week before xmas...I dont know. Odd.

I would love more dc but the odds are that I would mc again - mabe more than once - and I dont think I can do that to me, dh or the dc. I am very blessed and thankful for what I have and will have to live vicariously through you all when you have yours!!!!

You are all making me broody . I'm about as far away from being able to have more children as anyone can get and my body seems to think it would be fine . Ain't gonna happen though!

I hope you are all pg again very soon.

NC Sorry A has been bunged up again but I love what MrNC said about a poo-y smelling house!

Now DS is potty trained (and saving me money on nappies) I am paying back my debt to the enviroment by switching all our dairy and meat to organic. We only get one or two chickens a month and some organic ham slices, plus milk /eggs /cheese and butter it works out much the same cost as buying his nappies & wipes.

Good to hear your dd finally has chicken pox carrie. It's so much more bearable when they are little, both mine had it at about 8 months old. They might get it again but hopefully it's done and dusted now. Hope your dd is better soon though, it's still not nice whenever they get it.

Hello new thread. Been lurking for ages - reading and not getting chance to post.

Ah Debs i remember being so so so up for sex throughout my pregnancy and then of course we had all the time in the world to do something about it!! . Now i'll be lucky to get DP anywhere near me, let alone conceive no2.

We still haven't had the talk though - to see if we can even afford No2. I think perhaps we can, although the logistics of 2 scare me a bit (eg how the hell do you get a toddler and a baby ready for nursery, do 2 breakfasts and drop off in 2 different rooms, then make it into work on time?!) but I guess you just do it.
I'm still scared about another labour going tits up and the medics classing me as high risk due to my BMI, despite me being really healthy, exercising regularly and having a straightforward pregnancy last time.
Hey ho, maybe for a separate thread.

C is saying the odd word but nothing significant and certainly no sentences but she understands every word - we're having to spell stuff out as she picks up so quickly on things.
The other night she took off her nappy and tried to sit on the loo but then got scared as the 'hole' was so big. I think we're gonna buy a toilet insert for her and see how she goes. I've no idea how you potty trains a toddler who can't tell you they want a wee but she seems to be giving us non-verbal messages that she's almost ready. Anyone here had a toddler out of nappies early? Any tips?

Evening everyone! At my mother's for a few days to get my car checked out (only trustworthy mechanic I know, and I want someone to tell me straight up whether we should replace car). I'm on the 1 or 2 day countdown to AF and even thought I know I'm not PG (no symptoms and BFN this morning, had BFP and raging symptoms by now with previous PGs) I'm still holding out a glimmer of hope. Will be sad that we'll be onto month 6 of TTC, complete with 1 MC, after this month. My mother told me this afternoon that it was probably good that I MC'd in Jan, as I would never have coped with small age gap. I know she was trying to help, but .

Weird how many of us are taking longer than expected to conceive this time...

DS is v gorgeous at the moment - still not walking independently, but think it's a confidence thing - he walks holding one of my hands, and hardly leans on it at all, he just hates not having something to hold onto, and he'd much rather cruise along a wall or push a walker than even hold my hand. A few almost-words too, which is nice. I started trying to say 'oopsadaisy' this afternoon when my mother was saying it, and I was almost cheering!

I understand that some people love the newborn phase, but I find I'm loving spending time with T more and more when he gets older. One of my friend's La Leche group apparently recently decided that one of the nicest things about toddlers is that they start to love you back. I told her the nicest thing was that they weren't boring any more

Right, off to bed - although gorgeous, T does believe that 6am is more than late enough to start the day. I haven't still been in bed at 6:30am for MONTHS.

ooh, and I wanted to share two thoughts with you:

1. i remember when pregnant with C, I read an article that described having your 1st child as like passing through a gate and closing it behind me. You could look behind you at your life before kids but never go back - the gate was locked. It really depressed me as I always imagined looking back would involve looking at a sunny, wide field and going forward was a dark path. Ha! how wrong!

When I imagine it now, I look back at the gate and it doesn't bother me at all, and when i look ahead as far as the eye can see is an infinitely wide green sunlit field representing all the amazing stuff and milestones to look forward.

1. I read another article in the Times very recently written by a new mother. She was saying that she understands the secret that mothers never share with their partners: just how much we love our kids - more than dads will ever know, and that many of the love songs you listen to (the love songs not the sexy ones of course) have new meaning as they now apply to how you feel about your children. This morning i heard A Groovy Kind of Love on the radio with the lyrics: 'when i'm feeling blue, all i have to do, is take a look at you, then I'm not so blue' and I totally get what she means.

I'm not drunk or anything, just wanted to share just how amazing I still find motherhood and these 2 things sum it up for me. Feel free to make appropriate vomit noises!!!

hopefully I'm with you on the boring thing. I find 6-18m the hardest bit - they're not so little that they'll just be happy sitting watching you, but they can't really play with things. I'm so glad we're getting out of that stage now, ds is a superstar at playing, but dd was def boring at that stage, whereas ds was more annoying - nicking dd's toys and not playing nicely or understanding. Now they can play independently, or on a good day, together!

Yes indeed weird how many of us are having trouble ttc. I think we'll all get pg the same month then we won't have to leave this thread to find another ante-natal one, we can all stay here, and meglet and bec can do it all again vicariously through us!

imo that gate imagery and how you're feeling is beautiful

imo yes very vomity but lovely too

I don't want my eggs fertilised thank you very much. Don't want to go back to the newborn stage, can't fit 3 car seats in car, wouldn't be able to afford to fly anywhere (we're flying to Edinburgh tomorrow for the weekend and its costing over £400), couldn't afford childcare or have the time to juggle school runs and childminders etc.
Sorry don't want to put anyone off!

I think the hardest bit is also between about 6 and 15 months. When they want to play but can't and want to communicate but can't. They get so frustrated and then so do we!

Oh and Happy Birthday to me