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January 2009- toddlers turning 15mths and all that jazz (really just a new thread so DOG can fit it on her poncey iphone!)

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PatTheHammer · 05/04/2010 19:09

Good enough for ya dog .

And sorry I do realise some are only turning 14 mths and some are nearly 16mths etc,etc......apologies!

All officially toddlers now though i think (well 120's H and HKZ's J are pulling up/taking steps now I think, think mostly everyone walking of some sort!) Scary thought!

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EachPeachPearMum · 06/04/2010 22:06

MissJ- I'm so sorry. I experienced exactly the same before I had DS, and the sense of loss even after just a short short time was overwhelming. I was v lucky- next cycle I caught with DS, and you've seen how good that turned out. I found the m/c boards on mn really supportive, and they relly helped me when I was floundering around, not knowing what to think/feel. Please take care of yourself x x x

Stripey- I'm very sorry to hear about your Aunt. My grandmother was a very unwell woman (mentally and emotionally) and she died when my DD was 3mo. I decided not to travel to the funeral in the end (dd wasn't well, I'd just had a c-section, v long drive) and I don't regret it now one bit.

Forgive me, maybe I missed the namechange... but who is teaandcakes? I'm sorry to hear about your divorce.

hackneyzoo · 06/04/2010 22:08

Sorry this is just a fly by and bookmarking.
Miss J I just wanted to send you a ton of love. Hope you are feleign ok and glad you have your lovely family around you xxx

Just got baack from week up north...house a tip...lost keys so had to break in and buggered the door...off again tomorrow to see my dad...all I want to do is collapse in a giant pre menstral heap and eat easter eggs.

Will catch up proper at weekend

120 · 06/04/2010 22:08

sorry tea, meant to add commiserations re paperwork. have been through divorced parents and I'm ok. Am sure your kids will be just dandy. Much better to do it now than what my mum did, which was to put up with the philandering which started when she was pregnant with my older sis and carried on (with diff women) until I was nearly 10. Bit of a shocker but the stress did make her a bit of a volatile mum (known to throw cats and hairbrushes, though we laugh about it now. sort of).

Stripey.. she used to put them in our Christmas cards which were all sent together. Even then we thought it hilarious rather than mean. Love the apple story. That is really odd too. What sort of point was she making? I was quite a cheeky one so I definitely gave as good as I got when little, so do sort of understand why they got fed up with me. Still think they should have been adult about it. Gosh. could reminisce (sp?) for ages, but off to bed as am knackered and they are still both being little tinkers in the night.

EachPeachPearMum · 06/04/2010 22:10

Oh and Pat- what kind of buggy do you have? I remember it folded down really teeny... and I need to change ours now I think, so please gove me a clue!

120 · 06/04/2010 22:11

defo have to go to bed, about 5 posts there while I was typing! Welcome back HZ, poor you having to break in. Hi EPPM. off to bed night all x

teaandcakeplease · 06/04/2010 22:12

Peachy - It's not a name change. I joined the thread a few weeks ago. Hello

teaandcakeplease · 06/04/2010 22:15
  • Peach - sorry typing too fast again Not the best introduction to the new arrival (me) to thread
EachPeachPearMum · 06/04/2010 22:17

Ah! Hello (sorry, I have been skimming a leetle recently... time is a bit hazy these days)

120- your £7 cheque made me laugh, I'm sorry- it must have been awful as a child though. My parents (despite their many faults) managed to iron out and hide those kind of favouritism acts from us children thankfully.

PatTheHammer · 06/04/2010 22:30

EPPM- I have a Quinny Zapp, it isn't the greatest, it doesn't recline etc, but i got it as it folds real small and I hava a teeny tiny car. It has done two dc's now without falling to bits so I guess it must be quite well-made. Oh, just to note that the raincover is shockingly shite! It doesn't fit, by any way, shape or stretch of the imagination

Sorry to hear about your M/C, nice that you conceived DS the next cycle.

Tea- sorry to hear about your divorce, though it certainly sounds like your H has put zero effort into rebuilding your marriage, so I think you know what's right for you and the DC's 'fond of me but in love with OW' sorry, but this says it all, let me guess,he just hasn't had the guts to end it as he doesn't want to look the bad guy??
I think it may be better for your DC's to know two happy parents, all be it separated, than two unhappy parents together.

HKZ- Sorry you had to break in. Hope visit to your dad's goes ok.

Stripey- sorry about your Aunt, but am and also a bit at some of yours and 120's stories!! Such meaness towards children and adults, just cannot understand intrinsically spiteful people, what do they hope to achieve!!

Well, check me out, I actually bought some plants today on my potter around the garden centre. Planted 4 lots of herbs in the gardena and a few seeds inside with DD when DS had a quick nap this afternoon. How many can I kill before the month is out......

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teaandcakeplease · 07/04/2010 08:12

Morning!

DOG - I've just bought some size 4 Huggies Little Walkers for my boy who rolls around, crawls away, shouts etc every nappy time and they're ace. My son is walking and has been for ages so he's quite sturdy, so I change him standing now as he does his thing, as often as possible.

I agree with Miss J - I did previously find it a lot easier to do it in his cot where he couldn't escape. I have been known to sit on him gently, upside down, straddled over him, legs either side, facing his feet to keep him still, if it's a really pooey nappy, to avoid it being spread everywhere

tinkhastwoeasterbunnies · 07/04/2010 09:12

morning

tea - that must be hard

stripey

off to my friends

moosemama · 07/04/2010 12:31

Morning

Somebody purleease come and take my boys for an hour - I neeeeed a breaaak! Love 'em loads, but boy are they lively these days and I have 2 birthday cakes to bake and freeze today.

Dog, dd is exactly the same with nappy changes. Its been a shock to the system for us, as the boys were both totally passive. You could dress them, change them, feed them etc without so much as a whimper of protest. Mind you, we now know why ds1 was like that and ds2? Well he is absolutely the laziest boy I have ever met. If there is the slightest chance that someone else will do it for him, he will let them. He'd still let me dress and feed him now rather than do it himself and he's 6 next weekend

I find with dd that laughter and a toy she doesn't see very often is the best way. I keep a few toys in a toybox she can't get into and then if she's being a pain to change I hand her one just as I lie her down. Also, huge raspberries on her tummy and the 'Pooooo! Smelly feet!' game seem to work quite well. Its all the years of dog training you see, distraction always worked with puppies so I try to use it with the dcs as much as possible.

That reminds me HKZ I said I would help you with your dog bonding and recall problems didn't I. I am so sorry, I forgot all about it.

Remind me again what problems you are having and what specifically you would like to train/retrain and I'll see what I can come up with. I have been so me, me, me recently its about time I shook myself and started to give something back.

Stripey, sorry to hear about your aunt. I understand how you are feeling. We have quite a few toxic family members that we avoid and its a weird feeling when one of them dies, as you have a sort bond, even if it is mainly genetic. For me, I think that every time we lose a family member it reminds me of how big the world is and how small my world is in comparison, iyswim. Hope you are feeling more settled today.

Oh and the Irish funeral thing as well. The number of times we have been persona-non-grata because we haven't hopped on a ferry when some third cousin ten times removed that we met once when we were three has passed. Dad always had a thing about listening to the obits on the local radio in over breakfast and said it was expected and that if you so much as knew the person to nod hello to you would go to the funeral.

Mind you we are often persona-non-grata with both sides of the family because we won't/don't play the game properly.

Tea, sorry to hear about the divorce. Maybe you will feel better though with something definite happening instead of wondering all the time what is going to happen in the long-run. You sound like such a wonderful, loving mum, I'm sure your dc's will be fine.

Tink, hope your girls are feeling better today.

Any ideas on dd's weird behaviour folks? She has taken to sitting up, crawling around the cot and talking in the middle of the night, but then when you go to lie her down she is actually asleep. She is also doing this weird thing where she rolls onto her side, grabs the cot bars and pulls herself against them whilst thrashing about and banging her head. She seems like she's panicking, but again, she's fast asleep. She's too tired for night terrors - isn't she? She is overtired, as she never gets decent daytime naps when her brothers are home and she's been waking at 10 and refusing to go back to sleep till gone midnight. I am exhausted from the constant disturbance, it feels like every time I fall asleep she's off again.

moosemama · 07/04/2010 12:32

Wahey - mahooosive post! I must be feeling better!

120 · 07/04/2010 13:02

afternoon moose! no idea I'm afraid. poor little thing, that sounds awful. glad you are feeling better though. Great isn't it?!

moosemama · 07/04/2010 16:00

Hi 120.

Feels a bit odd to be back in the land of the living, but definitely in a good way!

Just completely lost it with the boys - you should have seen the state of their bedroom - and they were only up there for an hour! Then they said they'd tidied it and asked me to come and check it was ok so they could have computer time and OMG! It was worse than before. Whatever possessed them to suggest to me that it was tidy I will never know.

I have just pulled everything that was out of place into a huge pile in the middle of the floor and they are up their 'supposedly' putting it all away.

Its all a bit unfair really, as its ds2 that makes all the mess he takes a bit from each toy and makes up a lovely game, but unfortunately it always involves spreading various teeny tiny bits of lego/knex/gogos/magnetix etc etc all around the room in every tiny nook and cranny. Ds1 is pretty tidy and fairly sedentary in his pursuits (reading, puzzles, computer, nintendo, chess etc) but he ends up having to tidy up as well as half of the stuff belongs to him and I can't ever be sure exactly who made the mess.

Sorry, rant over.

On a brighter note I have just baked a big cartoony bomb cake. I used coloured cake batter again, so the outside edge is orange, the inside is red and with alternating blobs of red and orange round the middle so that it looks like its exploding when its cut (ish). It's going to be covered in black icing with a bit of black/silver sparkle dust for effect and have a red sparkler for a fuse. Am hoping it is going to be simple but effective.

Now I need to bake a gazillion fairy cakes for decorating as well.

moosemama · 07/04/2010 16:16

up there not 'their'

teaandcakeplease · 07/04/2010 16:37

Moose - My boy often moves around a lot at night, bangs bars, cries out etc. I've now got to the point of leaving him unless he really shouts and over time things are improving again. I thought it was a developmental stage

If he misses naps and is over tired though, he actually sleeps worse at night. His sister was the same. Creature of habit my two, if I foul up their nap routines it all goes pear shaped.

Hope things improve for you soon x

missjackson · 07/04/2010 20:32

eppm really sorry you went through the same thing, but gives me hope to hear that so soon afterwards you had gorgeous DS .

pat check you and your green fingers out! What herbs did you plant? I can't seem to kill rosemary and thyme, but would love to know the secret behind growing flat leaf parsley... .

moose cake bomb sounds amazing! Funny boys calling you upstairs to check their 'tidy' room and it's worse than ever! I would blame it on being a man thing, but my DH is way tidier than me... he is the sort that tidies away things while you are still using them... but shouldn't complain .

120 and stripey I had miserable grandmother on my Dad's side, who used to grudgingly hand over a fiver on a birthday, and was forever threatening to leave her money to the dog's home if we didn't go to elocution lessons/ speak french at the dinner table (WTF?)/ practice the piano. I was 16 when she died, and felt confused too - upset for my Dad but no personal sense of loss. Must remind myself not to turn into critical old bag when it's my turn....

tea, MM, N does the thrashing around thing too sometimes. Pita when he's in bed with you. I try to let it pass but usually end up giving him quick feed to put him back into milk-induced stupor.

hkz hope all the chocolate does the trick with the pmt.

Another quiet day here, but really am beginning to feel better. Weirdly feel like cleaning the house from top to bottom, guess I am craving a 'fresh start' - but my sister has forbidden me! Am having a big glass of red wine now instead - thanks again for all the support ladies, it really means a lot.

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moosemama · 07/04/2010 20:36

Thanks Tea.

I think its probably both things to be honest. I'm sure she's going through a developmental leap as she's started putting words together (went up to her brothers and said "Daddy at wor" today) and really understanding quite complex things that are said to her.

But, I also think a lot of it could be down to lack of sleep. I actually woke her at 10 this morning because I knew the whole day would be thrown out if I left her any longer and sure enough, she is still wandering around the living room, playing with toys, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed at the moment. I know there's absolutely no point in trying to put her down when she's this awake, so the cycle starts again for tonight/tomorrow.

I have decided to get her up no later than 7.30 tomorrow regardless of what happens tonight though, to try and get her back on track.

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moosemama · 07/04/2010 20:48

Gosh, cross posted with everyone.

Books, the spherical cake turned out great, thank goodness (always have my heart in my mouth when I'm using a fancy tin). Best of all the rose so well that I had to trim the tops and got to eat the scraps.

I remember last time my boys did the same thing in their room as well. Drives me bloomin' insane that they never seem to learn. Still, they did a bang-up job in the end, so tis lovely and tidy ......... for now!

Ds's tantrum sounds exhausting, well done for standing your ground, I'm not sure I'd have been able to keep it together for that long.

MissJ, glad you are feeling a little better. Your sister is quite right, rest-up and take care of yourself (or let your sister and dh take care of you) for now - clean later.