DEC 08 - Welcome to the house of ill - We're riding a poonami

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This was the only thing I could remember some saying should be the next title!

Morning - Beans thanks, you have reminded me but unfortunately I'm am unable to come for a number of reasons. Have posted over there when I finally found the thread.

Hello Urbane hope dd feels better soon. Gosh you've had some illness there.

Rubena: ouch, glad you're ok. Falling over is a shock when you're pg. I did laugh at the 'not upset but pg' distinction!

Was thinking about the longevity of this thread and have concluded that the reason it works is that there isn't the 'ooh she didn't acknowledge my post' stuff. I think we are honest with each other and realise that sometimes the social side is important, but in times f crisis you need help and support and won't have the mental energy for chit chat. Which is a clumsy way of saying you're a great bunch of people and I don't think anyone should be worried about not keeping up

Hiya everyone - hope you all had good weekends.

Hiya Turnip, Verso & pixsix. Just like old times on here! pix, I know what you mean - I find it really hard to keep up too (although I am a terrible lurker).

As usual, I'm failing to do anything in the way of personals as I've got to dash out now, but just wanted to say that I was hoping to get to the meet-up but for various reasons too tedious to go into I'm not going to make it. Just had a quick peek and it looks like a lot of us are in the same boat. I would defo be up for meeting up soon though if anyone else is.

Hi ladies sorry your night out seems to be dwindling. I'm in London for a quicky from the 4th til the 7th march if anyone fancies a night out then. DS1 & DH have tickets to the Arsenal V Burnely on the 6th and I thought bugger it I'm going too, I need some London therapy.

It's so true about this thread doing so well as people don't get all miffed or paranoid if not everyone responds to them. I have to admit I miss people when they don't post but I understand that it is a difficult thread to keep up with. However, I feel a little sad pixstix that you didn't feel you could post when things were difficult. I can def say there were a lot if not all of us who at one time or another posted only about their own difficulty or stress & everyone was here for them.

pixsix - same reasons as me for not being able to post - so do feel free to pop in and out whenever. I have been absent for months, and haven't even managed to usefully lurk!

rubena sorry you can't come to night. Hope you are ok after the fall. Pg makes me SOOO clumsy. Take care.

PD hi there!!! Can you come tonight?

Pixsix - really no need to apologise. I dropped off this thread for about 6 months after DS was born for more or less the same reasons. It all moves so fast it sometimes feels like it needs to be all or nothing, but that's definitely not the case.

urbane - hope DD feels better soon, sorry to miss you tonight. And sorry not to see PD and the others of you not making it.

LadyT - enjoyed your article, sounds like a lovely group you have there and a fabulous way to remember your DH.

Yes, I disappeared for about 9 months, so was also an absentee for ages. But feel like Ive been welcomed back with open arms. And I'm totally self-centred, and everyone's still lovely to me!

xx

Morning all, v of all of you meeting tonight. Hope you have a lovely time.

This cocking rain. I hate it. Am going out for lunch with DP (hurrah, he has wrestled off a half day in lieu after 9 day's work in Vancouver and overnight travel, they wanted him to take A/L ).

Nursery drop offs getting much harder, T screams and clings to me from the moment we go down the ramp. I thought it was meant to get easier?? He also cries if I leave him with DP (though to be fair he's not seen him in over a week which is an eternity in their worlds).

On the boob front, mine have withered away to nothing. They were enormous when I was BFing (32G) but are now 34C, possibly B. It's less the size though, more the pickled appearance. Whoever mentioned pitta breads had it about right .

Hello all - it's been snowing here all day and my poor poor 'flowers late winter/early spring' clematis that thought yesterday at last it might get a chance to show, has been frozen again Had great fun sploshing in puddles with dd though She was such a sneaky blighter this morning, we were looking at a book that had a photo of a man and woman in it and she pointed at the man and said "dadda" [proud], so I said "which one is mummy?" and she pointed at the lady, "which one is daddy?" and she pointed at the man again. So I shout "quick DH! this is brilliant! Which one is daddy?" and she pointed at a building he was less than impressed!

pixsix hello! Don't feel bad about not posting, life as a mummy is pretty frantic! If you ever want to say hello again please do

urbane yikes poor you all being so unwell. I don't think with babies there is such a thing as 'not really ill' because they must find it so much worse than adults, they don't know what's wrong or if they'll ever feel well again. Eg if I've got a cold, i know that probably in a few days it will be gone and I'll be able to breathe again, but a baby doesn't know that.

spot well done your DH! And too blimming right he should have a day off in lieu.

DH has taken today as annual leave to go in and catch up on paperwork - he's not seeing patients, just trying to get all the referral letters/test results/ followups/ insurance forms etc etc etc to do... The meeting about workloads that was meant to happen in December is now happening next March and he's going to point out that this is the third time in 4 months he's had to use a day of A/L to catch up on all the paperwork. They're not allowed to shut their list to new patients, so instead of having a maximum of 1800 on his own list he's got 2,300 (more than anyone else in the practice) and is just utterly run ragged.

Oh JJ - how frustrating - grrr. Wow, re DD pointing at right people. Our DD can just about point at a doggy in a book! But sometimes strays towards the cats.

I've just taken DD to swimming. 12.30 such a rubbish time as she doesn't really want to sleep in the morning, but she will have 45 mins at 11, but then won't sleep rest of the day! Today I kept her up til swimming was finished and she was v tired and squawky by the end. Such a hard time to know what to do. I put her in bed 5 mins ago and she was asleep before I'd finished zipping up her sleeping bag. Poor little bird - little does she know she's got her MMR at 3.45!!!

I just bent my thumbnail back trying to undo the carseat. It's gone blue with blood at the top. Ouch! I swore a lot. Glad they're too little to understand as yet.

I love hearing about the things like your clematis, JJ - so nice to hear little details about other peoples' lives, if you know what I mean? !

Hello everyone

I agree with what Effie said about the longevity of this thread. In addition, I think we are all pretty tolerant of each other's foibles even though we are very different. I mean, some of us were home birthers and other elective sectioners, some FF from the start while others are still BF, yet everyone allows everyone else their own opinion while being supportive. I think too that, although some of us post much more than others, no one has an ego the size of Tesco's and wants others always to defer to them or even acknowledge them. I wish I could post more, but 3 under 5 and a job (albeit only very part time) sort of gets in the way. I do read most days though.

Just thinking back over the past few days:

No pointing here. But lots of running, garbling, the odd mummy and daddy (and by God, we're odd!!), lots of waving and generally all round cheeriness. From him at least. My poor DD1 is having a terrible time at the moment, as she doesn't want to be apart from me and is worried that I love the middle one (nearly 3 to her nearly 5) more. I am at a bit of a loss as to what to do to reassure her. I can't htink of anything I might have done to cause this but she is very delicate at the moment. I felt a total heel for sending her off to school again this morning. She looked so small and young in her uniform and was so cold in the walk in the rain. Oh dear. Any suggestions from anyone?

Re dodgy pelvic floors, I think I may have overshared about my splashdown but I would agree that it is something which you should go to the GP about. You can be referred to obstetric physios who specialise in sorting this out (for both ends, so to speak) and I think it is something which is important enough to merit taking the time to go and get sorted. Mine is better of late but am still thinking of the cones.

Rubes, I am so sorry you fell and hope you are ok. You sounded a bit down - take care of yourself.

Veg, I have a wee pile of things to send to you and the kids, but as y ou know I don't do FB as am too old and gimmery. Could anyone email or text me your address please?

Spot, I sympathise with you on the boobage. Mine are still big but saggy and big, and without a bra nearly are level with my elbows , and look very sad and sorry for themselves. I can remedy it with a good bra but naked I am a shocker. I am probably about the same as I was pre any kids in terms of weight but my shape is very odd. Thin legs and arms, dreadful boobs, wobbly and bloated tummy. Not attractive. Am suffering from the trots at the moment, though, so at least might lose a bit of weight.

JJ, sympathies for poor DH and his job. My DH is very similar in that he is a nice chap who picks up a lot of slack at work, but with the inevitable knock on for family life.

Trace, glad the dedication went well. And am with you on the cash. I feel as though we both go out to work to pay bills and that there isn't much left over in terms of time or cash for some fun things. I think it is just a difficult time when you have very young kids. Everyone tells me it gets better as they get older. We'll see.

So sorry to miss you at the meet up tonight but hope we can get together again soon. LadyT, loved the article and hope the scan was good.

Sorry, seem to have waffled on a bit, and about myself a lot as well. Lots of love to you all.

trace so glad P's dedication went well yesterday!

rubs at your slip on the stairs, hope your okay.

pixsix lovely to hear from you again. I don't think you need to feel bad about not posting, we are a chatty bunch and sometimes a few days away means I miss loads but we are all still here as a support if you ever need us! I for one have done my fair share of 'me' posts of late!!!

Speaking of 'me' posts DH and I had huge barney last night. He is obsessed with booking holidays and the like. I think it takes his mind off his mum. Sadly we cannot afford everything he wants to book, and he thinks I am being unreasonable and miserable. Anyway we still aren't speaking.

And to make matters worse my Gas bill came this morning and is fecking HUUGGGEEE!!!! I can't believe what they suggest we should put our direct debit up to. I thought we had been quite good this winter. Sadly, the meter reading is accurate too. Now where did I put that other jumper.......

Daisy sorry about your row with DH. I'm sure he'll come round soon. Eeek about the gas bill.

Sybs I think you are right. None of us are bothered about what the others choose in way of parenting. I personally don't mind how people give birth or feed their babe as long as Mummy and Baby are happy. Whereas I've seen at times the arguements that happen especially if people ask for advice about bottle feeding.

Right I am off to the wonderful boring world of co-op!!

Kayz, you are so right. If you make your choice and are happy with it, that's good enough for me. Of course I am more than happy to share my experiences if someone is looking for info to help them to make a choice, but I get SO angry when someone asks for advice eg on a FF thread and gets told to BF instead. Perhaps that's why I avoid those threads now.

I didn't realise you worked at the Coop. I'd thought it was Sainsbury's for some reason. The coop here is by far my fave local shop. Much more choice and better sourced ingredients. Alas it's a bugger to park near it and as it's pissing down, I must to Tesco's. Talking of which, where are you at with your driving lessons? Have you decided if you will take more? I think I have mentioned that I only got back into driving a couple of years ago (having passed my test in 1987 but not driven since 1993) and it's brilliant. I am even enjoying it now, and I would not be able to manage with my 3 without my little Focus.

Off to get dear Lucy now. Hope she's a wee bit brighter.

OH and Daisy, our gas bill was ENORMOUS. Over £300 for the quarter. I feel your pain. Sorry DH still having a tough time but I suppose it's very early days for you all.

Right, must now dash

Oh Daisy - what a pain - so sorry. V difficult. As his sentiments are right, but just difficult when it's not feasible.

DD just had her MMR - all went well. She literally cried for seconds. And had 2nd half of some other one and ditto for that. She had Sheepie and thumb on hand to comfort her after. Have given her calpol on nurse's instructions and hoping all ok going forward. Sure all will be well! Brave little bird. Now happily playing in her pen! She loves it in there. I was worried it would be too like a cage, but she seems to feel totally relaxed in there. We've borrowed it off SIL but she needs it back next month, so think we'll get our own!

Rubes - so sorry about your fall - are you feeling ok now?

Syb - definitely right. Such a non-judgemental thread. I love it! xx

Judge this ladies, just got DD home from swim lessons and realised I had not prepped any tea and DS was starving....I have just given him weetabix and he is now munching a pear. It won't hurt him will it?? TBH I've never seen him eat so quick

Beans glad the mmr went well.

Oh and sybs good to know its not just me that is keeping the energy companies in profit. Perhaps when I tell DH how much we owe he might re think our world cruise......

Speaking of judging, I had a nasty experience at the weekend which may serve as a cautionary tale. Was running bath for the DSs, distracted as usual and trying to get DS2 undressed while DS1 sorted himslef out. DS1 slid into the bath (he likes to climb in himslef) and yelled - the water was scalding hot . Luckly a) it wasn't deep and b)he leapt out again pretty quick. I ran his feet under cold water and he was fine but I felt appalling. Entirely my fault and a really really stupid mistake . At least it's one that I will NEVER repeat EVER but it could have been really nasty - the water from the boiler is scalding hot.

Oh where doing bad mummy things hooray! I haven't bought DS2 any gloves yet and I'm now holding our hoping it will get warmer soon. If it's is really cold I pop socks on his hands otherwise I just pull
his coats arms over his hands. In both cases he still ends up with pink cold fingers. Gosh that's terrible I'm going to get him some gloves tomorrow.

My friend is here and it's great to have her but both her children seem to not be able to hit or otherwise cause pain to mine. Her youngest who is 18 months keeps waking DS2 over the head, once with a Thomas train, what is it about my boys that her kids want to hurt them. My only comfort is that my boys never hit back but it does worry me the effect it will have on them esp as she doesn't really pull her children up on it. I miss my friend & her DH but I am glad we aren't around their kids too much now. Is that terrible to think that.

Sybs I'm so sorry you've ask me before now. I can't remember your email, how about I give you my mob number over here no one is going to call it. Then I can text you the address if you text me your number.
0031627509221 that's inc all the country code etc.

Dais I'm sorry about your fight and your gas bill. We have just gotten a bill for less than 2 months of 300euro! They estimated it so we are hoping they are way off. We do have the heating quite low (prob why the boys have been ill) so hopfully they are baseing it on high usage averages. It's cheeky that the gas companies are responding to the worldwide price decreases AFTER the winter period.

JJ i feel so sorry for you DH, I bet he's a brilliant GP too, sadly the good ones always get put upon and overworked which is counter productive because they burn out. Hopefully something will change soon.

Right better go and be sociable sorry if I missed anyone.

Ph and daisy weetabix is good carbs (longlasting) and pairs are rich in vits and good for the bowels, not to mention some short acting sugars.

I agree that you are a really nice group and that is why the thread has lasted so long and been so lovely. Long may it continue

Veggie, I have gloves for T but he refuses to wear them so do the same (except I put mine over his sleeve if we're out and it's freezing so he just looks like a circus freak ).

Oh, and I think you are being very restrained with your friend's children. I went to the seventh circleof hell soft play with T yesterday and got really annoyed with the other older kids stamping all over him. He didn't seem to mind but it made me really upset to see things he was playing with taken away from him.

daisy we use weetabix as emergency tea all the time. And sorry about the row, it's so hard, money is a really sensitive issue for so many people. Are you speaking yet?

Spot DH is talking at me if that counts! I'm such a stubborn mare its silly really. And I wonder where DD gets her attitude from He has made a tentative apology, plus he has come home from work and hasn't as yet sat down with the stack of holiday brochures he has been surgically attached to all weekend.

Veggie, I do have gloves for both DC's but I am shockingly bad at putting them on!

Hi everyone!

pixsix - I didn't join until the babies were a few months old, but nice to see you and visit anytime! I am a frequent lurker but infrequent poster myself.

Great article Lady!

I lost track of the meet up thread, but couldn't go as DH is away AGAIN and by the time I got home from work to collect DS and put him to bed, it would have been too late to get back into town.

Effie - Scary about the bathwater but I'm sure it was just shock for him. Definitely something I would do. DH is always telling me off for stuff like that.

Trace - I too am more worried about weakness (ahem) in that area than the wee area. Haven't had the leakage problem, but frequent problems with sounds escaping when I least expect it. Oh the indignity! Oh, and I still have piles.

Do I really wonder why I am not having more sex??

Loving hearing the news from all you pregnant ladies! I am torn STILL about TTC because I just saw a job posting that sounds fantastic and think I have to apply for it. Applications due in March, and I have a 3 month notice period so if by some miracle I got the job I wouldn't start until summer probably and I would feel bad not doing a year-ish of the new job before going on mat leave. So that would really delay things. Can't decide if I would regret waiting or regret missing out on the job more. I am going to apply anyway, and just hope that my incompetence makes the decision for me and I don't get the job!

All you readers, I finally finished Wolf Hall and started the new Sarah Waters one (mind blank...can't think of the title). Loving it so far! Very pacey. I was a bit when I heard it was about ghosts, but so far no sign of any paranormal activity.

Veggie - Felt for you when I read that you were ill and trying to do childcare. My D&V day, it was all DH could do to hobble to the childminder to ditch DS while we both wilted in our bed.

I have made a commitment that I will stop moaning about sleep on here, because really it is getting boring. But very briefly - finally the 4 molars cut through, ending our bad 6 week streak. Then we had 2 good weeks and now...disaster. The last week he has been awake SCREAMING for hours every single night. Honestly. Last night was a bit better, but still not great. These are among the worst nights we've had since he was newborn. If the next couple of nights aren't better, I will go to the GP. It's just that he doesn't seem too bad during the day. Definitely more fussy than usual, but not terrible. If this is more teeth on the way, I despair. The kid has more bloody teeth than I do it seems like.

I have forgotten loads, but need to get to bed because I'm on my own tonight and the antics are sure to begin anytime. I am basically permanently camped out on a dodgy mattress on DSs floor.

Ooh, Mom - I've read the new Sarah Waters book - was quite good and gripping. But won't say any more and we can discuss it at a later date!!! Quite keen to hear what someone else thinks of it.

Poor you with the sleeping - that sounds miserable. I had only 2 miserable nights in a row and I was worse than useless.

DH has just got back from work. Poor chap. Do feel for him, but am sad I didn't make the meet up - hopefully next time!

And re the job - I'd go for it and then make a decision about it once you know if you've got it or not!

Good luck tonight and masses of love to all.
xxxx