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belgina · 14/02/2010 19:14

Right, new thread...

Sorry about the title

Cocktail anyone?

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pulapancake · 21/02/2010 20:21

Hello ladies,

Hi Reggiee

Busy day today. Swimming with S this morning as we are trying to keep him awake to have a big lunchtime nap like at nursery. He fell asleep on the walk home, transferred to cot, and slept from 11.30 until 1.45 . Then he didn't get a late catnap as I took him to church with DD at 4pm and had hoped he'd fall asleep in the sling on the walk there.

Well sleep training has been a bit up and down- night 3 (Fri) S was up 3-4am and then woke again at 5 so I just brought him into bed and fed him and cuddled back to sleep, as my target was to not feed between 12 and 5. Night 4 (last night) he seemed to be getting worse although he had been a bit off in the day (teeth/cold?) - woke at 9.45pm, had calpol, milk and still wouldn't settle even with lots of patting, shushing, stroking, cuddles. By 10.45 i'd had enough, and did CC- 5 then 10 then 15 minutes at a time. He would go quiet and then start up again. He didn't settle til midnight when i went in, laid him down (as he was sitting up), put his blanket over him and he went quiet and that was that . I didn't wake until 7.30am but at some stage his monitor ran out of battery so he may have been awake again . But we think we would have heard if he was very upset. Will see what happens tonight...

pulapancake · 21/02/2010 20:25

lol just read my post back- when I say I put his blanket over him, i didn't mean right over him or anything . I am not that cruel. I think if i do CC tonight i won't leave it so long in between visits, as I think he just sits up and can't work out how to lie down, as when i went in the last time there was not a peep once i laid him down.

FiByTheIcySea · 21/02/2010 20:39

Heads up for all of us at fridays meet up.. just back from the out of hours doctor with G. She got a suddenly very high temp at 5pm, had calpol and bf, temp continued to climb, phoned NHS direct. 5.45pm was now 101.8. Gave her Ibuprofen.. few mins later she projectile vomited.. exorcist style. ran cool bath & temp still high after it. quite sleepy and clingy not smiley. phoned out of hours doctor and got go ahead to go straight down. She has no rash or other meningitis symptoms. Doctor thinks virus.. but we're to monitor her closely for any changes. Nappies vile but no more vomit atm after the feed she had when we got home. Hope all the other dc's escape whatever she has..
just going to name check dandy at sleep over night.. but at Tango & for not losing it altogether!

febes · 21/02/2010 20:41

Pula Well done S!! Sounds like things are going in the right direction. Don't replace the batteries in the montior. That way if S wakes he might resettle without crying out loudly enough to wake you. You will hear him if he really wants you too. Just a thought.

febes · 21/02/2010 20:45

Fi Oh no! I hope G feels better soon and you have an ok night tonight. R has had similiar symptoms but does seems better today. He has had horrid nappies today though .

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flippinegg · 21/02/2010 21:14

Evening all!

dandy - at the sleepover, and hell, have another one - - for today's exploits! You'll know the answer to this question: I think I have the apostrophe in the right place there, but always doubt myself. Today's exploits. Todays exploits.

fi and febes - sorry to hear about all the illnesses, hope everyone recovers soon. A has had some grotty nappies this weekend but otherwise seems to be ok. Poor thing now has a very sore bum, I'm assuming it's teeth.

dandy/belgian - A was born on the same day as your two, the date on the birth announcement gift made me smile too.

DD1 was very good on Friday. The same certainly cannot be said about yesterday, somebody stole my lovely little girl and replaced her with a banshee. Nothing, and I really mean nothing, was right all day. She finally went to sleep last night after having a tantrum that lasted an hour.

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Jael · 21/02/2010 21:57

Evening all.

Fi Sorry G is unwell, hope it clears up soon

I had an absolutely awful nights sleep last night and it was nothing to do with any DC! I may have to go to the docs because I'm not sleeping at all at night, I'm up and down. Last night I felt really sick DP did J's feed at 6am and I told him I'd been up several times as I'd felt unwell/sick, and he said "hmm what kinda sick?" and I said "Like pregnant sick" because I was up and down up and down thinking I was going to be sick but wasn't if you get me lol and then this morning whilst getting dressed, I accidently pull out of my drawer my maternity tights and start putting them on instead of normal tights What is up with me?!

We went to Church this morning, been 4 weeks since we've been able to go with DP not driving...and then I've done a ton of cleaning and boring housework again today (yawns)

belgina · 21/02/2010 22:51

Evening all,

dandy flippin that date does cause a fuzzy feeling when seeing it, doesn't it?

fi I hope G feels better soon. I hope she'll sleep OK tonight and sleep it off

Jael Hope you're feeling better soon yourself... You don't think you're pregnant? Do you???

dandy @ your night and today. I must say, you were very brave to even contemplate a sleepover at that age. I've banned them until they're in a double figure age

DH and I have yesterday discovered that we need to sort our bed out. It's far to squeeky and the ap sleeps in the room next to us

We had an OK day. We all went to see Avatar. It was a great film. I thoroughly recommend it. We took C and she was an absolute angel. Not a murmur throughout the film, which is amazing, because it's really long. She had 2 bf and a nap while we were there.

Then this afternoon was horrible; I tried her in her cot again for a nap. She took ages (nearly an hour) to go to sleep and then when she finally nearly dropped off, ds called me because someone was on the phone for me and she woke and that was that. This made me so angry, not really at her, but in general, but sadly I directed my anger at her and shouted at her. So she started screaming. I'm still feeling sad thinking about the whole thing It also makes me think about putting her to sleep in her cot for naps. I don't like doing it, it takes aaaages for her to go to sleep and I can't just leave her, because she cries when I walk away. It was so much easier to just lie with her. Maybe I should just go back to that. I feel like I'm doing the cot training for the ap and really, why should I? C's my baby after all. It was far less traumatic and time consuming to just lie with her and give her a cuddle. I'm all On one hand I want her to sleep in her cot, because it'll make life easier for the ap, but on the other hand I don't, because it's taking so much time, effort and stress. Life was just so much easier before.

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pulapancake · 21/02/2010 23:05

belgina- maybe you should carry on lying down with C for her naps, as it works for you both. Your AP will find her own way to settle C, and I know from my own experience and from friends that LOs will go to sleep differently for other people (and often more easily ). With my DD, I used to drop her at nursery and stay to settle her for her nap, as I was sure noone else would be able to do it. Or i would try and get her asleep in the car but she always woke within minutes. All of mine have struggled at first to nap properly at nursery, but it didn't take them long to get into the new routine, and I'm sure C will get used to your AP. Please try not to feel guilty about going to work and leaving C.

Jael- i felt like you did the other week and even did a pregnancy test even though i thought the chances of being pg were slim if not almost impossible. I think it was a funny tummy bug which didn't involve vomiting or diorhea. But do you think you could be?

pulapancake · 21/02/2010 23:10

belgina- my DH puts S down for naps one day a week, and i give him advice on what i do to settle him, and so far he has found his own methods, and S settles very quickly for him and the first day he did it S slept for 2 hours when he'd only been napping 30 minutes for me . Is it worth your AP having some practices before you go back to work?

cherrytom · 21/02/2010 23:15

eeeeeeeeek! Whole new thread has appeared, I must've not been on for a bit. I'll catch up tomorrow

Just popping in to say 'hello' really did you all have your meet up? Were the shoes fabulous darlings?

I'm drinking cider, prob a little to much, can you tell? (tis medicinal tho' I have a sore throat )

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belgina · 21/02/2010 23:26

pula Thanks for your reassurance. I think I will go back to just lying with her. It just feels more natural and C is my baby so I will deal with her the way I want. The ap will have to deal with that I suppose. I know it's probably slightly unusual for her to have someone settle a lo for a nap the way I do, but it's all that's ever worked with C.

cherry Hi Hope you're enjoying your medicinal cider.

Right, better go to bed now. It's late and school tomorrow.

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febes · 22/02/2010 11:08

Morning! Had a fairly terrible night last night. I went to bed at 10. R woke for a feed at 11. DD woke crying at 12 (gave calpol) kept crying (realised she was wet as somehow she had peed around the nappy and soaked her bed, sleeping bag, pjs etc) so I changed her and striped the bed and lay her on a towel as I only have one lot of bedding for her . She was quiet for while and then cried out again so I got her and put her in our bed. She wriggled until 2 when I asked DH to put her back to her bed and luckily she slept. At 5.30 R woke for a feed and then DD woke at 6.30 for the day..... sigh....

Jael · 22/02/2010 11:27

No I'm DEFINATELY not, I'm not "allowed" to concider another pregnancy without seeing my consultant, and if he decided it would be safe, it wouldn't be happening for year++...We'd like to be a bit more settled financially, with me not getting Maternity pay or anything this time around Maybe it is a bug like Pula said, if it is, it's awful, I'd rather just be sick and get it over with! I hate feeling sick allday! Bleugh!

DD is back today at 12:30, she's very excited to go back and see all her friends again and I want to get DS back into his routine last week she missed him during his nap, and I caught her once waking him up! Little monkey..right off to prepare lunch, have a nice day everyone.

Hello Cherry

hopalongsausage · 22/02/2010 12:42

Bonjour, bonjour!

Who's cherry? I can't keep up with all the name changes!

LOVED the Friday meet up, it was looovely to meet y'all! It felt so good actually to get out and do something NORMAL - I used to go out around Southbank all the time pre M days so it felt fab. Did a bum change on M and a quick feed again before braving the tube home. Of course, only 3 tube stops later does she do a massive poo - so we had to wait till we got home. Ha! Gammy hip was, ironically, in good nick that day, so was quite bouncy all over the shop. I suffered on Saturday though!

Re the Cotswolds meet up - OMG, Grumpy or whatever you are now, MY parents are in Malmesbury! Spooky! When are you going there?

Had another viewing of our house on Saturday - still no interest, booo. ILs were down yesterday so DH and I could go out for a mooch and lunch sans M. All was fine, but came back to M not having had her afternoon snooze so she was really crabby (I tried to put her down, she was NOT interested) and also a HUGE stinky pooey bum which even DH noticed as soon as we walked through the door. The stench was horrific. MIL said 'oh, I have changed her, is it really pooey?' ditsy woman. She just kept playing and playing and PLAYING with her and bought her ANOTHER bloody awful present which we have to take back AGAIN. I swear she was probably secretly feeding her dolly mixtures and tizer while we were out.... ggrrr.

My brother popped in last night. He lives in York but works in London in the week. Said he'd be round at 6ish to see M, said he was leaving to drive down mid afternoon. He arrived at 8.30pm. Hmf. All full of where he and his (weird) fiancee are going on holiday all the time, and his giant wedding party they are going to have - they are going to hire a swanky restaurant. Which I don't really care about but a few of his friends who will be going I kind of bonked went on a few dates with a few times, so it could be interesting. Ahem. Especially the bloke who had the thigh high boots I found under his bed.... aaarrrghhh....

On that note, I think I will be off to make a cup of tea....

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pulapancake · 22/02/2010 13:32

Lol my mum is a bit like other people's MILs especially sausages's . She used to secretly give DD buttons on the one day a week she cared for her even though we said not to give any chocolate. SO DD's love affair with chocolate is either due to starting at an early age, or else due to being denied it from us for so long . And my mum was playing with DD and DS1 last weekend and I walked in and could smell something horrid, but didn't want to say "DS1 have you done a poo" in case it was my mum's trump . But then he came near me and i knew it was him. So i said something and my mum said "i thought i could smell something" so guess who ended up doing his nappy - muggins here . But to be fair, sometimes when you are in the room, you don't always notice pooey nappies- it's often easier when you walk in.

Well sleep training seems to be working- last night S didn't wake for his 11pm feed so i went to bed. He didn't wake until 4am so 9 hours solid sleep . He then fed and was back down and asleep by 4.15 which was great although i then struggled to get back to sleep. He woke again at 6, because he was trapped in the corner of his cot, so i brought him into bed, fed him and he slept til DD and DS1 came to find me at 7.40.

This lunchtime he had a 25 minute nap and woke still tired, so i tried some CC again after feeding him back to sleep didn't work. He had 2*25 min naps the other day and was so grouchy so i am trying to get him to have a long lunchtime nap. Fingers crossed he has another hour or 1.5 hours until school run time and that should see him through to bedtime. Now i feel like i am in control and he isn't the boss anymore, and I am determined to see it through . I didn't think i could do CC but now I can see it's just behavoural it's a lot easier. And it doesn't take much if any crying now, so is much better.

pulapancake · 22/02/2010 13:36

Oh and my mum is always buying soft toys or magazines for DD - she has so many now and doesn't need more.

saus- enjoy your DBs wedding party, and hope you don't feel too uncomfortable in the presence of old flames .

belgina · 22/02/2010 13:57

My mum is also one who yhinks that visits to the gcs have got to be accompannied by huge piles of presents. When she says she's only brought a little bit it's still enough to start a toy and/i=or sweet shop.

pula hurray for the successful sleep trainig. You must be feeling so much better

C has also come down with a stomachy sort of bug. She woke up cheerful, but slightly tired looking (bags under eyes). Had some breakfast, maybe a touch less than normally,had a mahoosive nap (cuddled to sleep), again woke cheerfully, but tired looking. I thought something wasn't right about her, but could't put my finger on it due to her being so cheerful and happy. Had a diarrhoea type nappy just as we were going to have lunch, refused lunch, still cheerfull. Vomitted just as we finished lunch and virtually straightaway she got tired again. She's now asleep on my lap after refusing boob too poor thing, hope she gets better soon. In a way I'm happy she's got it now and not next week when I'm away.

The ap is worried about not having to work enough in our family This is really odd. Up until now we've only had girls who were afraid of doing too much

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HeadlessLadyH · 22/02/2010 14:11

Last day of ML for me today . Work tomorrow.

On the upside Bode Miller won gold in the mens combined last night. He is a bit yummy and I've been following his skiing for the last 4 or 5 years. My mum texted me to say he won gold. What a star she is.

Will be back later for a proper catch up and a cry about going back to work....

essenceofSES · 22/02/2010 14:14

My mum is also...well...odd.
A couple of weeks ago I got her to come round and sit with O whilst I took the puppy to the vet to get her micro chipped.
She came round and I was quite pleased that Owen had just started a nap in his cot.
She said, "What will I do if he wakes up?"
"Go upstairs and soothe him and give him a cuddle" I said
"Oh I'm not sure I could lift him up" she said
I was just on my way out the door when he started to stir but I had to go. I got back 45mins later and apparently he'd woken up as I went and mum had gone and sat in the chair beside his cot and chatted to him. He was still in his cot, in his sleeping bag!!
To be fair, she does suffer with arthritis but I have seen her pick him up before and since!

Sorry for all the poorlies. O hasn't been sick since breakfast yesterday but now has a really red raw bum. He was crying with pain last night when I was cleaning it so I smothered it in cream and it seems a little better today.

I have somehow managed to bite the v tip of my tongue in my sleep last night. It keeps catching on my teeth. ouch!

saus - sounds like your DB's wedding could be interesting! When is it?

Belgina - ap worried about lack of workload??! Maybe that'll change when you're back at work!

Febes - that does sound a rough night. Hopefully a one off.

Cherry - hello!!! Hope you enjoyed the medicinal cider!

Hello Dandy, Jael, Pula and anyone else around

hopalongsausage · 22/02/2010 15:43

DB's wedding isn't until next year... so I actually have enough time to get myself super slinky so exes can look at me enviously. Not that I want them back or anything, but you know, its always good to look your best when you see an ex... or two...

(that is, unless DH has his way and baby number 2 is cooking.... aaargghh)