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waitinggirl · 08/05/2009 18:20

there i've done it - hope that is ok.

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pmk1 · 21/05/2009 10:17

lol I reckon! all sorts of trouble over there! I have quietly scurried away....

waitinggirl · 21/05/2009 10:34

quickly... anyone else's baby unintetested in eating during the day, but eating lots more and more often at night? this is doing my head in!

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traceface · 21/05/2009 11:12

WG P's feeds in the day are even shorter than normal and she's very distracted, and I have to keep an eye on the clock and offer it to her every 3 hours otherwise she would go longer. At night she wakes up starving and feeds really well for longer! That's why I'm trying to get more in in the day! Other than taking myself into solitary confinement for every feed I'm not sure how else to do it!

poisondwarf · 21/05/2009 11:17

Hiya everyone,

Just a quick one from me as usual these days...

njan so tragic what's happened in your DH's family. I think we must all have shuddered at the thought - let's face it, it's every parent's worst nightmare. Sorry you're feeling down. I was thinking the other day I quite fancy a day out in Cambridge. Looked into trains but you have to go right into London from here. jj, what's the drive like? Oh by the way jj, went to Chalkney Wood the other day. Tis indeed lovely although probably just a couple of weeks past its best as you said.

Verso lovely to see you back and sounding so chirpy. Positive vibes for today. Can't believe you're about to get back to work. Gives me the willies just thinking about it.

spot sorry you're feeling rubbish still. Sorry I missed you the other day - looking forward to seeing you in Essex soon.

Turnip smashing to see you back lovey.

LadyT you do have a lot on your plate don't you? Taking meals intravenously would save all the faff of preparing food, chewing, swallowing, washing up etc. Have your makeup tattoed on. Stop sleeping. Just don't give up Mumsnet, whatever you do!

Effie yay for potty progress - I did relay the news to DS but I think I just confused him as the 7 year old next door has the same name as your DS1 so he is probably wondering why I'm triumphantly telling him about him pooing in a potty.

arti thanks for asking about me. Your work thing sounds a right pain. I guess you have to make a judgement call on whether the Ts & Cs are essentially a paper exercise but if you're on uncharted territory it's hard to know isn't it?

zj I think they say milk first and solids afterwards to start with, as milk is the most important from a nutritional basis at this stage.

Exciting to hear of all those thinking about ttc relatively soon. We haven't properly discussed the possibility of a third yet - not sure how I feel about it. I could do with a break from babymaking but I don't have the luxury of much time so if we are going to go for it it had better be sooner than later.

Well I'm feeling a bit glum and moody lately. Think it's going to take me a while to get my head around being here. If I think of it as a holiday it's grand, but if my thoughts wander further into the future my heart sinks. I had told DP that he was on toddler group duty until I felt able to tackle them in a positive frame of mind but yesterday he wasn't feeling too good so I was forced to venture out to one. Not good. But of course I got it in the neck from DP for saying so. Early days though.

DS is loving the new domestic set up but has reverted to night waking, something he stopped doing when DD came along. So I am back to having seven shades kicked out of me by a whiney, squirming toddler in my bed on a nightly basis. DD sleeps through it all - I do envy her sometimes...

Oh looks like my time is up. Wanted to do more personals but DP is nagging me to check out the village market. I hate bloody markets but must show willing.

SummerLightning · 21/05/2009 11:41

pd where abouts are you?
Drive to Cambridge from London is ok, contrary to popular opinion Cambridge traffic is not that bad depending on time of day and where you are heading for.

Kayzr · 21/05/2009 11:44

Aahhhhh DS2 is asleep upstairs!!!!!!!!!!

LadyThompson · 21/05/2009 12:24

Hello girls,

Just a quickie for now and I will be back later to do a proper catch up as I have to go out for a bit, but just wanted to say that I will be in London on Friday if anyone is interested in meeting up. I have to collect post from my flat and there are a couple of books I need, and haven't told any of my other friends I will be there, so...I am happy to meet in Central or West London, and was thinking about a hotel bar I went to with Turnip and PD once - top of Regent St, five mins walk from Oxford Circus tube. There are sofas there and things and we might have a chance of one or two in the afternoon. Can I tempt anyone into Friday afternoon coffee or even a Spot of Cheerfulness?

More laters....xxLTxx

artichokes · 21/05/2009 12:35

bugger. just lost a huge post that had taken half an hour to write. how v annoying. I have been up since 3am and I think sheer exhaustion led me to push the wrong button. we are still having massive probe with DD1 and sleeping. We converted her cot into a bed yesterday hoping that would help. Such a mistake. No longer restrained by bars she was like a jack-in-the-box all night and never settled after 3am.

So tired. So very, very tired. So sad to have lost my long post of personals. So in need of more caffeine.... I really miss my mum today. There are days you just need your mum to step in and take care of you. I hope I am always able to do that for my girls.

poisondwarf · 21/05/2009 12:41

Back from market. Was quite fun actually - got DS to buy some cashew nuts. Great ploy for avoiding speaking to people - good God I'm grumpy at the moment. Also checked out the local library which is teeny but appears to be fantastic for kiddie books, much better than the one in Hackney actually. And dropped in for the tail end of "coffee and chat" at the local hall (except without the chat bit in my case).

SL I've just moved from London to North Essex (near Colchester) - a few miles from jj's neck of the woods. Just checked out the route online and it looks dead easy and should take about an hour.

LadyT that sounds tempting indeed. Could definitely handle a chinwag and a bucket or two of cheerfulness right now. Have already been to London once this week though and can't really justify (let alone afford) another trip for a wee bit.

artichokes · 21/05/2009 12:43

X-post LadyT. I live the idea of a meet-up but I will have both DDs tomorrow and I am not sure that DD1 is compatible with a central London cheerfullness break.

notjustanumber · 21/05/2009 14:04

poison where are you from orginally ?
arti you have all my sympathy. I wish we could have an exchange of help. My mum has gone too and I miss her so much

Anyway, I am a bit more cheerful today, playdate later (some adult company ) and DS1 loves the sandpit I bought him. Should keep him busy for a while....

Hope the weather keeps for the BH....

EffiePerine · 21/05/2009 15:17

PD: if it's sunny next week can I tempt you with a picnic and a spot of something chilled in the park one lunchtime? Wed or Fri good for me. Or we could come over on the bus to see your new gaff .

Spot: are you still on for an Essex jaunt - I can meet you at the station.

Good news: we may have found a childminder . Think I need to find a new job that pays zilions - any ideas?

Veggiemummy · 21/05/2009 17:09

Reality TV star or brain surgeon pay well Effie, although you need good PR people for the first one so could cut into the zillions a little.

Back from Manchester and in a mood, I think my hormones are all over the shop. DS1 is doing my head in, the child doesn't shut up, I would give anything for some silence right now. He has just sung to me while writing this (one of his own compositions accompanied on the ukelali [sp]) and has been explaining it's finer points to me. Oh now he is doing some acapela. Oh I hope ds2 is a late talker.

PD sorry you are feeling a bit icky. I know what you mean, I actually don't like meeting other mums. I'm always worried I won't like them but will be stuck talking to them. That's why MN is so good a bit of try before you buy. Does that make me sound evil?

PMK in ds2s firs couple of years of life I went home each year for about 3 months each time. DH came for part of the visits but generally I flew by myself and got around by myself. Was fine and it is so much better when their smaller, they are more portable and don't miss their dads too much. Also meant to say I'm still doing post natal pilates and DS2 is over 5 months. I think with any classes it only when they start moving about too much that you stop.

Took ds2 to the weigh clinic today he is 7.67kg a whopping (not) gain of 67grams in the last 2 mnths. It means he is smaller than his cousin who is a month younger and my SIL will enjoy telling DH that it is because I BF hey ho the comparing begins. DH will be going on about how much our DS2 moves about and she'll bang on about how her DS2 sleeps through. It's all very boring. I think both the DS2's are lovely and I hope they don't spend their lives being compared (clearly J will come out on top)

Spot hope you can sort all this out and feel better soon. You are getting some great advice from here in particular what Trace said about it not being failure to take the meds.

Veggiemummy · 21/05/2009 17:12

Sorry PMK that should have been in ds2's first couple of years.

Veggiemummy · 21/05/2009 17:14

Oh and Lady I meant to say I watched that working women show the other day and it was dumb. Missed any good points or ideas.

poisondwarf · 21/05/2009 17:51

arti sorry to hear you're having a rotten time of it.

njan I'm from East Lancs - not far from daisy I think. Think Hayley Cropper with a slightly dodgier haircut. Not that I expect the respectable laydeez of this thread will know who Hayley Cropper is of course.

Effie picnic in the park sounds good. Or round to mine ... I have this very day purchased a bottle of Pimms and some lemonade. We can have it with cucumber so it counts as a salad. Jam, would you care to join us? Wed and Fri are equally good for me.

Veggie I am pleasantly surprised to hear that you are as evil as me - you always come across as so nice (a feat I can manage for ooh about 5 minutes on a good day).

Kayzr · 21/05/2009 17:51

I've lost 3lb!!!!!!!!!!! Just 0.5lb to go before I lose a stone since starting WW 6 weeks ago!!!!!

I'm a little concerned with DS2's weight gain. In comparasion(sp) to DS1 he has only put 6lb since birth whereas DS1 put on 9lb in his first 5 months. Might give HV a ring tomorrow just to check.

poisondwarf · 21/05/2009 18:04

Well done kayz - that's brilliant! I shouldn't worry too much about DS2's weight gain. Wasn't he about 3lb heavier than DS1 at birth? Probably just evening out - presumably they'll end up with roughly similar builds at some point. And remember - your HV is officially a loon, so whatever she says take with a shovelful of salt. She'll probably tell you to start feeding him kebabs or something.

Kayzr · 21/05/2009 18:06

Yes he was 3lb heavier. DS2 now weighs almost the same as DS1 did at 5 months.

waitinggirl · 21/05/2009 19:57

trace - at least it's not just me, then!

just wanted to check in re: bottles. we've tried a few times (keep meaning to do it every day, but forget) - i have found it easier when i try and just let her play with it and chomp down as though the teat is a teether. have no idea whether she has ingested any of the milk, but it has gone down a tiny little bit. interestingly, the main thing has been me overcoming my fear of her not taking the bottle - i.e. just letting her play with it, reach for it and put it in her mouth. will carry on with it (although away this w/e for a wedding) and see how it goes. it doesn't feel half as terrifying as before. and in the end, if she doesn't take it, she doesn't take it and she will go a little hungry when i go out for hte evbening. tough.
sorry no personals -must dash (as though i'm in an enid blyton book)

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spotofcheerfulness · 21/05/2009 21:32

Hello all, not got long but just wanted to say thank you for your lovely support as ever - and to Trace and Verso for sharing their personal experience. DP took time off work today to look after T so I could sleep but am coughing so much I couldn't! Damn and damn. But feeling a bit brighter today. Realised I am totally a victim of the routine - my day can be ruined if T doesn't sleep as much as he "should", when everything evens out in the end. I'm sure this is causing a lot of my anxiety, the feeling that there is one right way to do things and if I don't manage it I've somehow fallen short. Which I know intellectually is nonsense but it still manages to totally obsess me.
Sorry for lack of personals, just wanted to say commiserations Arti, I hope you get a better night tonight. And Effie, I v much do still want to come to Essex but now may be week after next, would that be all right?
Oh and don't believe Poison, she'd have you think she's hard as nails when actually she's totally and utterly lovely. As I;m sure are you, Veggie. There's nothing wrong in a but of misanthropy from time to time.

LadyThompson · 21/05/2009 22:46

Right, I?m back! Sorry no one wants to join me tomorrow ? I feel like a right Billy-no-mates Well girls, last night I decided I was fed up of the sex drought around here (DP has been stressed with work and it always really puts him off). I put the fairylights on in the bedroom and lit half a dozen new lily candles that I?d had for Christmas and put on a fab new negligee that DP has already admired. We were lying in bed some time later and I could smell burning ? one of the candles had caught a box of Kleenex which has gone straight up, as had a dried old pot plant and the flames had started to lick menacingly towards a pile of paperbacks. It was quite a situation, let me tell you. We are all ok (though the sight of a naked DP running across the bedroom, bravely holding aloft a flambéeing Kleenex box is one that will stay with me).

DaisyD ? I am so glad the Risk Assessor was kind. What a nightmare!

Arti, I am sorry you had a rotten night last night and you are missing your Mum. I really feel for you. I so wish you could come out tomorrow but I do understand. Did you get some helpful responses about your job situation? One argument is that if they want the full job description they should give you full pay if you will essentially be doing your old job but in 4 days?I thought the law was that employers are now obliged to offer you some element of flexibility? It doesn?t seem to me that they are. Same to Jolly Bear (though I know she is on holiday and hopefully not thinking about work).

SL ? glad you are getting out on the bike. I think having parts of your life that are as they were before motherhood (even if it?s just an hour a week) is so liberating. Ooh, and I would like to come to a handprints party. But I think it would be hard to get to Cambridge for an evening, I think.

NJAN ? but this is precisely what worries me when you post sometimes. You badly, badly need some time to yourself and I think it is really important that someone, whether it?s your DH or another family member, ensures that you get it. No one should feel like they are disappearing?that is awful. Is there any hope of getting some you-time?

Verso ? hey, best of British for the job stuff! That?s great ? jolly good for you. And back to work already! Wowzers. I know you were looking forward to that, so hope it?s all positive for you.

WG ? gosh, I?m sorry about the anniversary of your mc. How distressing. I hope you have a super wedding though. I think I would feel ok about leaving DD in a hotel room but ONLY with a monitor and frequent checks. As Turnip says, I think a small child is probably a different kettle of fish. As to next babes, my single criterion is I don?t want DC2 until I have got the weight off. Vain but true. And probably dangerous, given that I am now 37 and losing weight about an oz at a time.

JJ ? I hope you also have a smashing wedding. You deserve to kick up your heels a bit.

Spot?I haven?t ever had PND or even D, so I am far from being an expert. My half baked opinion is that you have had an unusually rough time, with illness and so forth, and you have been amazingly strong. I do think (and this is just the opinion of a casual observer, based on what you say) that you are incredibly hard on yourself. Oh, the times I have wished for a magic wand on this thread, especially for you. I would love you to have a little respite. I wish I had something better to say than hang in there ? hang IN there ? it WILL get better. It must. We are all cheering you on.

Kayz ? fabbo weightloss. You have done so well. I am

PMK ? hey, can?t I rouse you tomorrow? It would have been lovely to see you. As for trip back to Oz, I say do it. If it feels good, it probably is good, so do it (is my somewhat dubious motto). Why are you even hesitating? I was too late to see the cs thread but those things are bad for me, so it?s probably just as well. I get upset that sections are treated (by some) as if they are some sort of irresponsible self-mutilation. Grrr. What happened with the viewing of the Henley house?

Modern ? so how was the baby group? And did you watch The Apprentice? I did. Oh my goodness, it does entertain me. Still a fan of Howard.

Effie ? glad your new life seems to be (broadly) suiting you! There?s quite an Essex contingent now. Sorry to bore on about work but how is your commute going to be?

Veggie ? glad I didn?t miss much with that tv show. I am envious of your many soujourns in hotels. I love hotels. They are so glamorous, even the ones which aren?t glamorous (if you see what I mean). I grew up living opposite a hotel and I think that?s where it came from. Where will you be staying in Warwick?

PD ? good to hear from you. You have my heartfelt sympathy re: the move from London. I get awful London pangs. But you know, if I had to go back to being full time in London, I can honestly say I would miss the country now. (A bit). Thank you for the helpful tips on how to conserve my time. Ha! I can tell you what would improve the balance of my life no end ? staff!

ZJ ? DD gets mush with her evening feed. I tend to give her the bottle first and then she has mush afterwards. I know the books say to give it in the middle of a regular feed but I have decided to ignore the books, as I have realised that if I stop a bottle feed halfway through she doesn?t eat more solids, just won?t go back to the bottle after.

Right, I know that?s not everybody but I haven?t had a session on the rowing machine and even though it?s late, I must. Groan?.

majormoo · 21/05/2009 22:58

just wanted to say a quick hello as have not got round to posting for ages-though do read.

WG I bought a cup from John Lewis today (Doidy?) and am thinking of attempting skipping the bottle and going straight to a cup. No idea if this plan will work but DS2 can be a bit hit and miss with a bottle.

Have been a bit preoccupied this week thinking about my friend's little boy who is 2 and a half-same age as my DS1. My friend lives in Malaysia and has come home for a couple of weeks. I think her DS could do with some developmental help but how do you bring this up with people? I have only seen her for a couple of afternoons surrounded by children so no time to really talk. He does not have many words but that is not what bothers me. It is the way he does not look at you which is unusual-hard to explain but it is almost as if he does not see you when you talk to him. His parents and grandparents are constantly shouting at him because he makes this strange high pitched noise when he wants attention.All quite upsetting really but another of our close friends thinks it is better to say nothing because at some point they will deal with it.

Anyway after rattling on about my own pre-occupations I am off to bed. Hope everyone is doing OK.

spotofcheerfulness · 21/05/2009 23:00

LadyT, what time would you be in the west end? If I'm a little less consumptive I could be tempted out...

Veggiemummy · 21/05/2009 23:13

Spot this coughing business is not right it's been going on too long? I'm anti cough medicines like most health professionals but for a bit of rest it wouldn't hurt for one night for you to have some to give you a rest. This may be going over board but have they tested either of you for pertussis, it doesn't always sound like a whoop.

Lady I love hotels too. We always camped or caravanned when I was a kid and I loved it but hotels just feel do posh. We used to stay in some quite lush places, but expenses are tight in business these days so no more Sheratons etc. Also DH has the intercontinental hotels priority club card and is obsessed with gaining more points. The Manchester hotel was a nice Crown plaza but generally these days it's holiday inn or express by holiday inn. Actually I quite like them I'm so familiar with them now as they are all pretty much the same. DH keeps getting excited about how we can have a free holiday with the 'points' and he is now onto airmiles credit cards and uses them to charge for his work expenses. Currently he is trying to get his flight home when we move back and several weeks accommodation at a holiday inn in Sydney when we get there. Bless.

Oh and Lady your abrupt end to your romantic interlude did make me giggle.

Right gotta go to bed I have to drive to Wolverhampton tomorrow.

Oh before I forget well done on the weight Kayz I'm a bit scared to weigh myself tomorrow. I've been a bit crap this week, again I'll blame the hormones.