Dec 08 mums - from rolling to sitting and everything inbetwean

[waitinggirl]

there i've done it - hope that is ok.

Oh and PMK I thought your vb/cs was vic bitter versus cab sav

Veg, i just looked it up on Wikipedia and it sounds quite like what he has (and I now do) but he has had the jabs (admittedly the 3rd set quite late) and has been seen by 3 docs/nurses since the coughing started, all of whom have sent me away with a flea in my ear. Is it possible to miss it, do you think? I agree it's not right but am struggling to find anyone medically trained to take me seriously. The doctor yesterday said it could be bronchiolitis but if so there was nothing they could do anyway..,

Well, Veggie, the hotel that was opposite me is now a Holiday Inn, it used to be a Trusthouse Forte Posthouse but it seemed to hint of a wonderful, jetsetting sort of existence to a small girl in the 1970s. Any hotel is sort of romantic.

Good to hear from you Major! How sad for that little boy.

Spot, I'll be working in my flat in Maida Vale from late morning, so if you feel a little better we could have coffee in the afternoon - I could be around between about 2 and 4. The hotel by Broadcasting House at the top of Regent St is good for me but I know you are North so prepared to come anywhere within reason. If you feel up to it (and if either of you has whooping cough, you may not!), my number is 07795217915 - I won't be able to post from about 8am tomorrow but I will be reading, but texting me is best. Same goes for anyone else! If not tomorrow, some other time. Night you all - sweet dreams.

LadyT: I am not thinking about the commute, the general opinion out here is that the train journey is pretty foul (tho just under an hour to Liverpool Street which isn't too bad). I'll prob be getting the train at some godawful hour in the morning but at least I only have to roll out of bed and trot down the road to get there. I'm impressed that you own such a thing as a negligee btw, I am still in ratty pjs that are falling off my arse as I bought them to accommodate my pregnant form.

Spot: as Veggie says there is something up, but so frustrating that the docs are refusing to do anything about it . Week after next a good plan btw. Tuesdays are good for me, as are all afternoons

Hi Lady I've only just caught up this morning - had a good laugh at your romantic scene! Glad all ok! Bugger about today, you def could tempt me for a spot, however I've got to wait around for a dishwasher being delivered that my landlord organised since the other one broke about 6 weeks ago! Annoyingly, they have given me a timeslot for delivery of 1200-400pm, but if it comes early, I will text you, but I'm guessing it won't as these deliveries usually aren't on time will you be leaving London by 4pm?
I never heard back about the Henley (sale) viewing so I'm guessing that means no I put an ad in the local paper today for letting it, and forgot to put the price!! (Idiot) It's top floor with no lift unfortunately so elderly or people with b abies are out. if anyone knows of someone wanting a 2 bed flat to rent or buy let me know! problem is, the outside of the building puts people off but the inside nice so hard to get people through the door.
Veggie, re pilates, I never did go to that class - i'm scared! I#d rather go to a beginners progressive course than a drop in one so I'm waiting for one to start. I can't decided whether I'd be better doing pilates or yoga for a total all over toning / stretching thing... I've knackered my coxix on my trip (don't laugh) my db's gf is big into yoga and my 6 y/o niece was on the floor showing off doing a backbend and I decided I could do that, not taking into account It has been about 25 years since I've assumed that position, and did a brilliant one, but the only thing I can put this tail bone pain down to is that incident! dh says it'll be fine in a few weeks but if not sometimes can require an injection to fix but it's not tooo bad so i'll assume it'll fix itself anyway, Lady, I will text you if I'm able to get to London for a spot - and you too Spot! (If you are a bit better) but I'm not going to get my hopes up that this delivery will arrive in time, so don't wait, just go about your usual plan! Right, another coffee needed.... Another late night. I was able to dream feed last night at 11pm he had a whole bottle and never woke but then woke at 230am for nothing? And then at 4am (small drink) and then at 630 for the day... I'm not sure this can be called jet lag anymore!!

oooh and hotels - my favourite I've stayed in I think was The Ritz Montego Bay - reeeeeeaaaallly nice cheerful breakfast and I do very much like the Hotel Del Coronado San Diego

Morning,

LadyT, that did make me giggle.

The hotel we stayed in last year when we went to London was lovely. it was the Hilton at Wembley. The nighttime view over London was lovely.

We had a pretty bad night here. DS2 woke at 20 to 4 and would not go back to sleep. DH got up and brought him downstairs and he finally fell asleep at about half 5.

Hope everyone is ok this morning.

I'm still here! Getting a later train, but I will still be around this afternoon, PMK. I could leave London a bit later than 4 (originally I was going to meet DP in Oxford after court but he thinks he'll finish a lot earlier) but I don't want to get a later train than the 1751 from Padders.

My DH went to the Hotel Del Coronado in San Diego - I have the yellow and white towels to prove it (he bought them not nicked them I hasten to add) but best hotels have been the two Raffles ones in Cambodia (the only country in the world to have have two Raffles, the others being in Singapore) and the Splendido in Portofino, a nice part of Northern Italy which is film star central. I am not swanking, as those days are very much over for me and I still like any hotel at all, however modest! For instance, there is a fab one called the Victoria in Church Stretton, Shropshire, near my friend's house, and it costs £70 a night for a double room.

Right, must get ready! Have good days all.

Oh yes, Kayz, Hiltons are fab. Right, really AM going now. Byeee.

Oooooh Northern italy. We want to go there next year. There or Greece.

But the other Raffles are in Singapore and Beijing and...can't remember. My above sentence didn't make sense. Right, I am gone

Lady! I forgot the Orient!! My db had a friend in Hong Kong who put's the hotel packages together for the brochures, therefore getting many an FOC for herself to test. He was there on business once(but staying at Marco Polo? I think) where I stayed too (sightseeing) and she got us a room at the Peninsula to stay if we wanted!!! I must say - that's the nicest hotel room i've ever seen! We actually didn't stay the night (only one bed and just my brother and I unfortunately!) But we nicked in to do a quick reenactment of Pretty Woman and ordered strawberries and champagne to see if the guy would hang around and do a "cough- ahem" thing for a tip! (he didn't as we got nervous and tipped) there were about 4 (very nice quality I might add) strawberries, and it was about 30 quid I swear! Meanwhile, I cleaned out the delightful array of Tiffany soaps and shampoo's in the bathroom (I was young!) and then we proceeded to the bar on the roof for a drink! Came back in the morning for a very lovely breakfast but didn't stay (obviously!) One day.... I will actually stay there on route to SYD!
Aaaargh I'm annoyed I have to wait for this dishwasher - but grateful to be getting a new one! Do you have O with you in the buggy Lady? (That's right you can't answer - don't do it you'll break the thread!!!)
Spot, how are you today? Will you be venturing out?

well i'm happy to reprt the baa baa blind worked very well and gave us all an extra 2 hours in bed

Spot your posts make me think a bit of myself with DS1. DH had postnatal depression and found the demands of DS1 quite hard and was terrified of the responsibility of looking after him, so I didnt leave them alone together for months, and DH was very unconfident around him and would ask my advice about EVERYTHING he did. Anyway, the pertinent bit to you was that I felt that I had to stick to a routine of my own and be in charge otherwise everything would all go wrong. So I felt a bit trapped by DS1s eating and sleeping, and they were constantly on my mind, and i coulndt get a break. I cant advise how to fix that, all I can say is that it will be ok if you are spontaneous. Second time i have to be, and DS2 is fine. BTW, DH is great second time around, but old habits die hard....

LadyT thanks for your concern. you are right, and i do know it ! Its a combination of BF and family circumstance that have made it harder this time. Its too long and boring to explain right now but my mums death in march (she was mentally ill) has enabled me to ask for help from family members where I couldnt before, which has been a big light at the end of the tunnel. The sad thing is I realise I try to live up to her as a parent (she was brilliant, 7 children, homecooked food, no car, never had a day off etc), but then in the end it didnt do her any good.

Hooray work have approved my request to work 2 days!

Right off to caych up on the thread and chase insurers...still no word from the carpet fitters gggrrrrrr......

Morning folks, well our coughs are no better today so afraid we'll be staying in N16. I looked into adult pertussis last night and it does seem to fit my sypmtoms - will wait a while and if it doesn't go I'll go back to the doctor, maine is now worse than T's and I'm fed up of having to sleep on the sofa! T was doing really well last night, not a peep from him until 5am when DP had to go in and shoo away a blackbird that was tapping on the window which then woke him up .
All this talk of hotels , sounds great, my sis has actually offered to have T overnight some weekend and we could stay in a hotel nearby, I thin i would feel better about taking her up on the offer if he was sleeping through but as she is PG now she needs all the sleep she can get!
NJAN, thanks for sharing your experience, I think you are right about the spontaneity, I think I get trapped into thinking that if I get his day routine "right" it'll mean a better night but actually the nights seem so random i'ld really benefit from getting out more and letting him sleep on the go.
For those of you with older DCs, did you notice any difference if you had set sleeping times for your DC1s and more spontaneous ones with DC2s? Basically, should I believe the sleep book experts who basically say your child will never sleep through the night unless they get 3 hrs sleep in the day? T actually tends to run more on 2 hours in total (45 mins in morning, 45 at lunch and 30 in afternoon) but is tired by early eve so I spend a lot of time/shoe leather trying to get him to sleep longer at lunch, but i just wonder whether I'll look back and regret not just going with the flow and getting out more, to be honest I wish I'd never picked up a baby book but I can't "unlearn" what I've read now and tends to stick in the brain!
Top news on the job Daisy, am v pleased for you.

Ooooh just got a letter from PALS.

It says that they spoke to the MW in question about her BF advice and she has told them that she believed I did not enjoy BF and that buy day 5 my milk was not in properly and therefore she had to tell us to give him FF top ups. It also says that she stated that in her opinion a bottle does not ruin the latch that a baby has and only poor latching on by the mother does this. But she has recieved a written warning as my complaint was not her first and she is being sent on an advanced BF help course.

I am f*king livid!!! I did not enjoy BF, I was hardly given a f*king chance!!!!

spot I was regimented with DD and her routine when she was little. She 'had' to have an hour in the morning and 2 hours after lunch. I was quite obsessed by it all. But with DS, well he rufuses to have a day routine. Which in many ways is good as it means DD isn't tied to the house while he naps, and he basically naps on the go if we are out and about. I can honestly say their sleeping patterns are no different, in fact DS is probably better. He goes to sleep at 7pm (DD was probably 7/8 mths) and as a rule he only wakes once (DD woke 2/3 times, and then much more when we weaned her)

kayz am v on your behalf.

njan wow that's tough. Sorry to hear about your mum. Terrible timing for you as well with 2 LOs. Big family! Are your brothers & sisters close by?

spot you are too kind. No really, you are. Now I know you all got the lurgy last time you went but have you been down the hossie with the cough? I think I'd be tempted - I'd be reluctant to keep going back to the GP as well if I were you. Have you been on to NHS Direct? They might direct you back to see the doctor. I think you might be right about focusing on the routines by the way. When all's said and done routines are supposed to make your life easier, not harder. I know our circumstances and our babies are very different, but personally I love the freedom of not being tied to a routine. If you asked me how many feeds or naps DD has during a 24-hour period I could not even begin to guess, seriously. FWIW we haven't had set times for anything for either DC but DD just seems to know how to do sleeping better. I do always suspect though that the dodgy advice I got during DS's early days about waking him up for feeds when he wasn't gaining well might have knackered his natural sleep rhythm.

daisy great news about the job.

major tough call - the little boy's behaviour does sound odd but at that age there is such a wide range of what's normal. Depends on your relationship with your friend I suppose - I don't think I would be offended if it was my child, but there are plenty of people who would.

LadyT at your mini inferno and at your bedroom antics!

Well done on complaining kayz - I wish more people would do the same (including myself). Actually I did complain about one of the midwives this time round and she phoned me up and had a go at me! It was a similar scenario actually in that her manager was aware that she'd been giving out poor bf advice. It does seem to have had the desired effect in your case if they are sending her to be reprogrammed.

Hotels - well all the niceish ones I've been to have been for work rather than leisure (not with my current job though - no chance!). I'm much too stingy to fork out for a posh hotel myself, so just to bring the tone down I'd like to add my own personal recommendation which is the Travelodge in Barcelona, which we stayed in when DS was about 9 months old for the princely sum of 20 euros a night. Beat that!

Yesterday I decided on a whim to whip off DS's nappy and replace it with undies. This morning he happily did a wee in his potty! Hurray! But then just as I was writing this post he did a big poo in his underpants. Boo! I can see this is going to be lots of fun for me as DP is a bit phobic. He even wears one of those synchronised swimmer-style nose pegs when he changes nappies, the big girl's blouse, and still coughs and gags as he's doing it (although I should point out in his defence that he has always done the lion's share of nappy changes, while I mostly point and smirk). But I think potty training might just be too much to handle for him ... literally.

Spot my personal opinion is the person that knows best for your DC is you. And that all babies are different and need different amounts of sleep. DS2 is a better sleeper than DS1 but his days are much more chaotic and has no set sleeping or eating routine. His naps can vary from 30 mins - 3hrs depending on the day and where we are ! He sleeps on my bed, in the pram and in the moses basket Try not to worry and enjoy it, hard I know. How much he sleeps during the day does not affect his night sleeping at all. Kayzr Can you respong to the letter ? Good on you for complaining ! I was lucky my postnatal care was great but by complaining you are helping so many other vulnerable ladies....

Oh LadyT thanks for sharing I was v amused by your amorous adventures. It is no longer teh gobi desert here, just.

BTW, someone was asking about period pains. I keep having those, but no Aunt Flo. I've had one since DS2's birth - they seem to be a bit erratic.

Notjust,

that was me - about the period pain.... still no Aunt Flo here either

Spot hope you start to feel better soon....

if dear B doesn't start sleeping a bit more at night like he used to I'm going to have a mini melt down.... he naps quite a bit during the day and i'm thinking of maybe trying to keep him up a bit more. I've never read any parenting books - I only own one "what to expect the first year" and I haven't got past the 2nd month! Perhaps I should put down 'Hello' and 'OK' and open up to chapter 5!
Well the dishwasher hasn't come early..... not surprisingly!

I can respond to the letter but I don't think it will do any good really. She really is quite strange, she has no kids and makes no secret of the fact that she doesn't want them either. Seems strange for someone who is a MW.

Spot Hope you all feel better soon.

I need some holiday help. We want to go to either Greece or Italy next year but we don't know where we want to go. Somewhere fairly quiet though, not really after the clubbing scene.

Hi all, just popping in quickly to bookmark my place.

Things here have been ok, ds1 has been offered a place at the nursery school we want so my priest harrassment seems to have done the trick

Right, am off to read through properly to catch up. I may be some time!

Aaaarg B just peed all over bedding --- being lazy and not using change mat!! You'd think i'd learn.....
Lady, delivery people called and said 30-60 mins.... [irritated emoticon] Looks like I'm fast running out of time to meet up today.... Will you be in London again next week perhaps? Then I could go in earlier and double up with a visit to some shops that aren't out this way....
What a waste of a day this is!
I am cleaning however.... (bedding included)

Just popping in quickly as I haven't read all and am currently handling a small wriggly ape but just has to sayKayz I am so angry about that MW I am putting the dark dark light on her I will write more later about it but just had to express how bloody angry I am I want to write all sorts of bad words but don't want to offend.

Oh and NJAN Im so glad you joined us. Your situation Is just terrible at the mo and all so recent but I'm sure you've already heard all the oh that's horribles and you poor things so I will just say I'm glad your with us I like hearing from you.