July 2008 - Food Glorious Food - babies who lunch

[Isaidno]

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Pigley - P has days where she is exactly like that just refuses everything or makes real hard work of it all. We thought she was getting loads better with food but has gone back to refusing to eat solids & screaming & thrashing around hitting the spoon etc. (unless it is strawberry fromage frais!!) Am a bit at my wits end but have come to the conclusion that me being worked up is what has made her a naughty screaming shouting baby this week. I am trying to stay calm...it isn't going too well! Just don't want her to only eat sweet stuff!!! Hang in there you are doing fab, I am no expert but I know this isn't easy & you are doing everything you can. She will snap out of it I'm sure. P is an angel when we are out & turns on the charm for everyone & is all smiles & giggles, she is such a tart!!! No one ever beleives that she plays me up rotten at home!

P is a rountine girl I'm afraid & really gets upset if we throw her rountine off too much. We have been the same since day 1 really & I think it has helped her settle at night etc. I don't feed her til 8am even if she is up/awake at 7 otherwise it throws everything off completely. Would love to be a bit more flexible coz going out requires military precision around her schedule & it is very frustrating & restricting, but she is such a stroppy little bugger if she doesn't get her own way.... me thinks the terrible 2's are going to me horrendous!

SIL text me a pic of her LO, so cute, very chubby cheeks looks like his daddy. Had forgotton already how tiny newborns are...even 8lb ones! P wasn't 8lbs til she was about 7 weeks old!

Must go spend some time with DH, he actually doesn't have any work to do tonight for the first time in months!!!

Thanks for the comments girls. I'm feeling abit more relaxed now as her 4pm feed she had about 4.5 ozs and took 7ozs at bedtime so feeding abit better now.
Shes been abit unsettled tonight but seems to be settling herself off again.. just waiting to see what the night time brings us. Think the lack of sleep and impending period has made me abit neurotic!

Solids- Abigail has seemed to be eating abit more in the past few days but doing BLW so not enough to make a difference to her milk. Id not really noticed a huge difference but her nappies are full of crumbs! Her poo has been more solid too. We had a screaming fit the other evening as she was pooing and not liking it/hurting her.- poor thing. She was really comping on abreadstick tonight so maybe her teeth have been hurting her although no other signs of teething.

Disney- DH and I used to go for dinner lots when I was pregnant but we havent been out alone since Abigail was born.
about your mum. It might the fresh start you need with her. Hope it goes well for you

Bebe/mummywannabe- These babies really know what buttons to press dont they to make us worry!

Mummywannabe- Hope nursery goes ok tomorrow.So different when its your own isnt it!

thanks pigley x

well samuel has slep with me last 2 nights strange how he screams in his cot like in mortal pain but when his head hits my bed he goes striaght to sleep,and tbh ive got to sleep i just have to, hes a crafty little thing....

were struggling financially at the moment which is unusual, but were paying for dh class 1 tests ourselves and the lessons he had next test next thursday and weve paid out £1300, and he only got £88 a week for
the weeks on the sick (is this right)
so no wages for 3 weeks plus his test fees im getting behind now.
samuels needing to have hospital trips and nights in there so again no pay,i may have to get a evening job but tbh i feel like i never stop here with 5 dc at home.
and so annoyed as cb have never paid me they must owe me loads of money since sams birth they keep telling me its "processing" and thats all they say.tax credits wont pay me for him as if im not recieving cb theres no proof hes here.
any ideas on what to do here?

disney no advice on thebenefits thing I'm afraid, but wanted to share sympathies about your mum. I'm tentatively re-building my relationship with my dad, after a years of agonising over how crap and non-existent it was (culminating in my decision to not see him any more which was a relief to have finally made, either way if that makes sense). Christmas was a bit of a turning point for him it seems though and we've been in contact a few times since, like my birthday and it's his today so we will pop over and say hello. My advice fwiw would be to just take it slow, don't expect anything and if it starts to be a negative impact on your life again don't feel guilty if you back off for a while. IIRC you have said that your mum is a bit toxic (if that's not the case apologies I cast a slur on her!)- it must be a frghtening prospect for you, no matter your age! Good luck.

pigley I so know where you're coming from on the knowing-I-should-probably-be-doing-x-but-too-tired-to-care on the routine thing. Louis sounds like SK's Bethany- just wants a bit of skin-on-skin (well face-on-boob lol) a few times a night but boy is this tiring, trotting down the corridor three ish times a night then getting up at 5

Have tried keeping him up longer (6.20 is strangely the time he decides enough is enough and wants to go to bed, no matter what time he started the day!) but he just cries and cries. Or at least he did the last couple of times we tried it, maybe I'll give it a go a gin. Didnt make any difference to his waking time either

Off to take ds1 to nursery now, then coffee with a friend. Have sore throat though and feeling generally rubbish so could do with a sofa day really! But L must get so bored of our house. have a good day all x

Disney - i understand what you mean about needing your mum. I'm lucky that we have a great relationship, i can't imagine coping without her (at 32 thats a bit sad really!). I hope things go well. Have also come to the conclusion that he just don't want milk, will take about 12 ounces in a day. Lots of milky puddings here too!

Bebe - you sure you don't have my Max there by mistake, these babies all seem to be up to the same tricks. Re: sweet things, had this with Max last week as when he was ill would only eat fruit and so i gave it to him, hence refusal of anything savoury since. Made some fab annabel carmel recipes last week (i'm no cook but they were very easy) so far the chicken and apple, one pot chicken and lovely lentils have been gobbled up, they are quite sweet when you taste them.

Thered - Max has his bath at 6.30, a minute late and he screams the house down. Funny boy that he is. Also makes no difference to his wake up time (bang on 6.15am). I am mean though I don't get him up till 7, just pop in and give him dummy etc. Obviously if he was crying i'd give in.

Right should be sorting out nursery bits, got to leave in 1/2 hour. He has a bad cough but no temp, taking him anyway as I think we have only had one week since Dec when he hasn't coughed/wheezed so just gotta do it i think.

My OU tutor scared me to death last night, she called (which she never does). Huge essay wen tin last week and i'd thiught i'd failed! She only wanted me to do the next discussion thingy online, was such a relief! Esseay results should come in today - think she would have mentioned it if i had failed??

Typing terrible - i'm rushing!

Mummywannabe - I too have done AK chicken & apple & one pot chicken...a hit initially & now rufusal after about 2 mouthfuls (most of which is spat out anyway!) Will persist but not ging to force it. DH thinks I should be pleased that she eats anything regardless if it is sweet, I just dont want her to get into the habit of only eating sweet stuff & thinking its ok to refuse the savoury coz mummy will give her something sweet instead IYSWIM.

Right must go & try & be a calmer more patient mummy today. Fingers crossed!!!

Morning.

Well the night started abit crap. Bed at 8pm then woke 5 time between then and 10.30. DH went to settle her then but she refused to settle. DH offered her mik which she had 2 ozs of then continued screaming. I took over and managed to get her off. Woke again at 12, tried settling her off which let to more shoutin/screaming. However a firm NO to her and she stopped immediately! I was amazed.
She went back off and I decided to sleep on the futon in her room as I had a numerous wakings in mind. Plus DH could get some sleep- Theres no point both of us wide awake.

Anyway she woke again about 2.30 and took about an hour to settle.. my fault as I went to the hall to see the time which woke her again. Anyway that was that again till 7am.
No milk during the night so I know she can do it. Thankfuly she didnt seem to want it either. Im now more hopeful of a full nights sleep before shes 18!

Plus she downed her morning bottle!

Had real tears here this morning- Poor little Abigail has been doing more solid poo's and its obviously hurting her. The look of panic on her face is awful and her bum is bright red!

Disney- Sorry to hear your struggling abit at the mo. Its not a good time at the moment is it. I know DH's test seems alot but think about the steady work he will be able to get after. Speculate to accumilate as they say

Red- Enjoy your day, A trip out might make you feel better and be nice to have a coffee and chat.

Mummy- good luck on the Essay!

I'll catch up later, but I just wanted to say well done to Abigail!

Thanks Pigley

All our babies are doing such similar things, even if we don't really want them to! Of course I'd rather you lot didn't have to go through it too but it's a real comfort knowing that we're mainly in similar boats. Same story here Pigley with last night, needed re-settling a few times before I went to bed, then a rotten old night too! Prob feels worse because I'm not 100% on form.

Also with milk milk- Louis is not interested in my boobs at all (or formula)during the day unless we're at home and he wants to go to sleep, in which case he might suck for 2-3 mins just to get himself off to sleep. Nowhere like a real feed. Same through the night, bed time and 10.30 ish he might have a bigger feed but even then I think it's only 5 or 6 mins so can't think he gets a large amount. In the middle of the night he might have one decent ish feed but the others are just comfort I think. So yes lots of yoghurt, cheese sauces and rice puddings!

I feel like all I do is say "gosh my life is sooo hard at the moment" and moan to all my friends. I'm the last of my mum chums to have a second baby so they're probably thinking get over yourself woman you haven't got it any harder than we did. I can see the end of my tether, I've not reached it yet but it's looming I think . Just have to keep saying to myself "it could be worse, it could be worse" I've two lovely healthy children, a wonderful sexy best friend in my husband (if a little housework shy!) a nice home and no real worries. I should be thinking how lucky I am not how blimmin hard work it all is!

Coffee postponed because of builders at friends, off to soft play for first time with just Louis. Hope he'll enjoy it!

Sorry for another long me me me me me post girls you're sanity savers I think.

Because of this I am thinking of stopping bf as it just seems to be more of a hindrance to him getting good sleep. But then I feel guilty because it's ME who wants better sleep, he's doing fine. I was such a pro bf sort until now, plan was to bf exclusively til whenever he wanted to stop as I did with ds1 (18 months ish) and so that makes me feel bad that I might not treat them equally. Guilt city here, I really just don't know what to do for the best.

Having a morning without any dcs here - dd1 in school after 2 days off sick, dd2 at playschool, Bryony with her soon to be godmother, so I can tidy up the house for the visitors who are coming for the christening on Sunday. So... have spent an hour putting toys away in the playroom and it's still not pristine, though it looks a lot less like a bomb has hit it now! Just about to go and try to get the toys I've removed from the playroom put away in dd1's bedroom or she will get them all out as soon as she gets in. Should really be cooking/vacuuming/dusting but tbh the toy situation has been getting me down so I think I am actually better off dealing with that first.

Pigley, hope you are feeling a bit better about things now, I always think you sound as if you have great fun with Abigail, I'm quite as it takes me back to when dd1 was my PFB and I used to do such nice stuff with her - no time now!

Have got Bryony to sleep through the night - well, till about 6, still a bit early for me but that is 11 hours' sleep. maybe the timing will improve when the clocks change.

Must go as I will feel really guilty if I spend any more of my precious child-free time on here

red - I think you will find it hard to give up bf when Louis needs it for comfort such alot. Why don't you try to cut down the comfort feeding first, then see how you feel? I would stop the comfort sucking during the day first, as obviously tackling the problem at night will give you even less sleep. You might find that once he is only bf when hungry you feel more inclined to carry on.

Lots of mummies feel guilty about treating siblings differently, but not all babies are the same and neither is going to think badly of you whatever you decide.

pigley - your firm no to Abigail made me smile! I remember with ds2 the soft approach was no good; a firm go to sleep and leaving him to cry was much quicker!

Poppy woke twice last night but seemed pretty hungry. I am putting off dealing with her erratic sleeping at night, although I think I will have to try settling her without bf soon.

Good nursery visit all round! cried for 10 mins or so when i left (as expected) but was happily playing. The girls took some lovely photo's of him and he look very very happy with himself. Feel alot better now, know he will cry more on monday (as i tell all my parents they know whats coming!) but if he was happy enough to sit and play i know he will get there.

Just a quickie all,

MULTIVITS - who asked about peanut oil? No peanut oil in hariborange syrup.

Hoep all you poorly folk get better soon - healing vibesxxxxxx

DISNEY - I think you need to give your Mum another chance - if not you'll always wonder if only... It is a basic human instinct to need/want/love your Mum just shitty when they aren't really a proper Mum and let us down. Fingers x she has changed her spots and realises at this time in her life that she ought to do something to repair those bridges.

Was supposed to be having friend and 3 grils around this aft' but they have cried off - quite relieved actually as am shattered and out tonight. Calvin is very poorly and had me up most of the night last night then DD joined us at 3am too - HUGE YAWN EMOTICON!!

MUMMY - fingers x it's a great essay result - well done you - I know how bloody hard it is studying with bubbas. Not too long to go now.

Must go and get DD up and let limpet man reattach himself to me. I have had to dig out the sling and put him in it again to be near me as he is feeling very sorry for himself and needing Mummy love.

GILLY - how are you getting on these days?

Have a good weekend all - hope nice things happen for all of us.xxxx

Better night here as well, she went down about 9ish then I think she woke up twice in the night for a quick feed. She has been napping since her 11am feed through going to nursery, coming back and is still in her snowsuit bless her. Will have to start lunch soon though I'm hungry.

Mummywannabee - aww glad he had a good day at nursery, it will all be fine

Isaidno - keep saying that as well, need to sort out sleeping and BFing but it's far too easy to lift your top quick few sucks and off to sleep again than hours of crying

ponto - happy tidying, I have been quite good this morning and tidied up most of the upstairs although I did toy tidy up and rotated some of them so now the DDs have a load of new toys all over the floor and it's as messy as ever. I agree it's the toys they are always everywhere.

Redsalamander - don't apologise this is the palce to moan, you have two LOs of course life it hard, it's not meant to be easy but hey we all get through it.

Pigley - great you had a good ish night, have you decided to stop offering all milk at night, between what times?

disney - keep chasing the CB I cannot believe they have not given you any yet, surely it's very straightforward send away Birth Cert and get it and it's not liek you are a new claimant just adding another one on IYSWIM. With the Tax Credits I just phoned up and added a new baby, didn't need to prove anything I think. I think you can only get 3 months backdated so get on to them. Re your Mum no advice there sorry you know the situation with my Mum no contact since Christmas, I am actually disgusted with her that she did not phone around DD2's 3rd birthday but sent a card up in someone else's present with money in it, I did debate sending it back (especially with all her I have no money cannot afford the train fare to visit stuff she bleats on about) but though no it's DD2's money not mine so I bought some things for her room instead. I have tried with her and have given up now

Right better go get lunch on, I have a feeling B will be up soon enough as the other two are now downstairs and are not quiet!

x-posts have a great night our Rumpel you deserve it

I have had a limpet baby the past week as well not like her she must have been ill.

thanks for all the advise girls.

sk yes all you do is ring up tax credits and add new baby on but after a certain time THEY contact cb centre to confirm and of course cb are still processing or so they claim ive just sent tham a grumpy e-mail to hurry up

rumpel yes i guess i want to giver her another chance of course shes never seen my boys or anything but has been logging on to FB in secret to see what were up to so i guess shes been interested for a while
brief history or me and my mum so you guys understand here
she married at 16 and had me BUT she had an affair so no idea who my dad is.
her hubby i always thought was my dad didnt want me and made that known
lets just say my "dad" was a child molester and has been to prison lots of times for rape of 5yr old etc,,,,including me enough said there
she put me in care around 7
thank god
raised in usa no contact untill 6 yhears ago
she has numerous other dc as well
she claims now she couldnt cope with what he did to me was better for her to bury her head and forget me
she wants to move on (so do i)
i think we can but slowly as i dont really know her but there is a connection there
sorry guys i think you people are the only ones in the world that know now apart from my dh
maybe that explains why im so protective over my own dc im a def paranoid mom
i feel fre-er now like a huge relief has left me.i guess im at peace for the first time in 35 years.i can finally let go....

disney . Huge respect to you for carrying such a heavy load. xxxxxx

Hello everyone,

SK- not really decided not to give it just to try and make it a last resort if she doesnt settle. Shes been settling back off without it so im thinking eventually she will stop waking full stop.. fingers crossed!!

Disney- Blimey lady! There sure is history between you isnt there!
I totally agree that softly and slowly does it. Really hope it goes well for you and you get to become friends with your mummy again

I love my mum to bits but she does upset me sometimes. Ie with doing BLW. She really doesnt get this at all and completely boo hoo's everything I say. Ive tried explaining it and giving her info to read but shes not interested. She makes me feel that im doing wrong by Abigail and neglecting her by not giving her "proper" meals. I know its rubbish but awful to keep hearing it

Abigail shared her bath with DH tonight which she loved- Poor DH didnt quite as much as Abigail kept trying to grab and play with DH's "Special" toy! if you catch my drift!

Had a fab suprise visitor today. When i was at college when 17yrs old, I was friends with a gilr called Steph. Anyway after college we lost touch and i moved away. Anyway whilst pregnant we "found" each other on Facebook. Funnily enough she was pregnant too! only a few months behind me. We would spend ages chatting and she was fab supporting me when I was fat, grumpy and overdue. She had a DS and we have continued to be very chatting about the kids on facebook. She lives up north now and I down south. She mentioned on FB yesterday that she was coming down south to visit family and I commented that she should pop in and say Hi on the way.. Didnt really think she would though.
ABout 11.30 I get a text asking if I was in and could she pop in! I was really shocked but very pleased. She came for a cuppa and stayed about an hour. The LO's played together and it was really nice to see each other again and meet our LO's.

Busy day tomorrow- meeting friends and going Horse racing for the day. We used to go to Ascot every year and did really well! so fingers crossed. DH says hes going to get Abigail to pick the winning horses.

oh pigley i had to laugh at the bath episode but if he wears trunks next time i think he may feel more comfortable....

well dh took over samuel last night all night for the first time i was soo tired i didnt even reallise,hes got a hacking cough and his teeth are driving him nuts,poor little guy.

and i knew sam was playing me up as he went from 11pm (being a monkey for me he took over)and went till 5am now thats a first
he woke up saw his dad and went back to sleep
how crafty can you be....

were finishing our decking today its huge,it mmeans we can open the patio doors onto it when sams mobile he cannot escape as its secured of, and ds will love it as its going to have sand box and water to play with in a special area, il take a pic when finished.
the dog has a pen area complete with kennel but its weird as her name is penny
so im always saying "pen get in your pen" but she does it.
pigley meant to say what a wondeful suprise your friend turning up.

Disney

• Well done to DH for taking over and giving you a break

Abigail went off at 8pm then woke at 12 and was unsettled till 1am when we decided to try her with a bottle. She took the lot and didnt wake till 7am! Her sleep is so much better than it was a week ago- Up every 3 hours for a feed!
I actually feel refreshed for our day out today!

brilliant pigley and you sound much brighter its amazing what sleep deprivation does to us isnt it.
we went to town today i only go with dh i have a thing where i cant be in crowds ive only been into town 3 times since sams birth.
boys are happy they got some coloring books for a pound shop and honestly give them a book and paper and there happy all day.

it was a shoe shop day for all 3 boys they all needed school shoes and trainers,was quickly done and no fuss . i told them there size and said go choose your trainers in that section and they did and just had to wear them home.
got to go danny who 4 is looking at me with big eyes do you want to colour in with me i guess i have to

wow its quiet on here tonight
pigley looks like you had a good day what did abigail make of the horses!!

all quiet here dh on his ps3 samuel in his jumperoo ,hes all daddy now tis funny as when Al was on the week out working sam was all me and never wanted to go to him
but as i said before he was de moted and now sees samuel every evening and its really made a difference sams always holding his arms out to him going ahhhh. its cute,

im quite bored here and restless i think im tired as well though.

well hope you guys have a good weekend and a very goodnight sleep x

It is quiet on here everyone must be having busy weekends.

Not much to report here quiet day just chilling at home really, she was up twice last night but it was literally less than a minute to latch her on and back to sleep, not too bad then.

pigley - hope you had a good day out

disney - glad you got out and about today and your DH gave you a break must be nice having him at home rather than on the road in a kind of way

There's someone on MN interested in the P&T so will probably sell it am now looking at a bright pink M&P Luna probably my last pram so want a jazzy one.

Have been hideously poorly, starting to feel human again today. Have had a terrible time with not-so-DH, had one of those mornings when you fantasise about how much easier your life would be if you were divorced . Too tired and depressed to write it all down.

Hope y'all are having a better weekend.