December 2006 - Terrible Two's here we come!

[Olihan]

Here we go. I thought the title was apt as ds2 has morhed into a stroppy little horror overnight. His favourite expression at the moment is 'I cwoss with you, I sceam at you AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH' .

Happy Birthday ToddlerJabber and ToddlerEli .

DD is poorly again. I swear every bug in the vicinity has some kind of magnetic attraction to her . She has a bit of a temp, headache and earache today. I need to buy shares in Calpol and Medised I think.

Aoa, hotel is a very good idea - go for a posh one so you can have a vvvv hot, deep bath!

Sacha, meant to say, am v impressed with Christmas colouring in thank you cards....I managed to get 25 done by dd1 for her birthday, then gave up dismally over Xmas! Think those with Dec birthdays should come with some sort of 'no thankyou cards necessary' clause attached.

Solo, I've felt at each of your broody posts, because I do know how that feels...not now, so much, but when I thought I couldn't have any/any more. Wish I had a magic wand.

Margo, that's rubbish, any idea when it's likely to end?

D'ya think LenniEd's had it yet?

Solo/Eli, I'm extraordinarily of the actual labour and birth part but don't want another baby to keep anymore. I would love to give birth again though .

Eli and castles, how come your dd1s have only just started full time? Is that quite common where you are? DS1 had 2 weeks of part time and that was it. She will be shattered by the end of the week, ds1 still finds it hard by friday - brain overload as well as physical tiredness, I think.

AoA, when's dd2's preschool day?

Oli, definitely a weirdo I'd like another one but only when it's two. And, am available for pregnancies too.

Yes, it is standard round here for DCs to start full-time after a term. At a couple of the other schools they don't go full-time until the summer term DD1 isn't tired she continues to be permanently wired.

Good luck tomorrow Eli and, a-hem, Lennied, unless you've had it of course. Drums fingers ...

Oli, I know what you mean...but my births have both been c-sections, so even weirder weirdo here something about the amazingness of it all, actually not so weird maybe?! I don't want another to keep either, though...too tired, too old, and too complete

Yes, as Castles says, normal around here. Church and state primaries in our area all do a term of p/t, though some do the last couple of weeks of Xmas term f/t, dd's doesn't. I'm glad, really...its been so easy so far, and I think she'll cope better now at 5 than she would have at 4.

Thanks for luck, get all tense just writing list of ??s - am going to try not to be a controlling neurotic mum tomorrow

I'm like Castles, Eli and Oli and think I could do another pg but not another child!

I met one of my friends today and she has an 8 week old and absolutely adores him. She reminds me of Gaby from Desperate Housewives, so I'm even more pleased that she's completely embraced being a mum to her little boy. She's had a bad dose of mastitis for the last 3 weeks but is still b/f.

Thanks for your kind wishes. Hopefully we'll have a conclusion by the end of the week re. work. But the whole situation has changed my perception of my work situation/colleagues. Cue a few tears at work and I've not really been sleeping this week with worry.

Olihan, I hadn't realised just how 'vocal' I'd been about broodiness! sorry

I don't know if any of you have read any of my 'story', but it took me 12 years to fall pg which resulted in a mmc. Two years later, I fell pg with Ds. Exp was totally unsuitable and buggered off as soon as he found out(and it took my friend to tell him at 17 weeks before he'd believe it). When I met and fell in love with Dd's dad, he didn't want any more children. His Dd was(at the time)27. However, I fell pg quite quickly, but mc'd. 14 months later, I fell with Dd. I recently found out he'd been seeing another woman for almost the whole 4 years he'd been seeing me and he'd managed to keep me and our Dd a secret somehow, though we've never lived together, so that would've been easy in that respect. He delivered our Dd and I've continued to hope and pray that he'd see the light and want to share a life with us as a family.
I've always wanted 3 children and I know that I was lucky to even get one and blessed with two...What I've always wanted though ~ and it'll never happen now unfortunately, due to my age and lack of the right man, is to have had the planning and the 'trying' and the expectation and excitement of expecting, giving birth to and raising a family with a man that loved me just as I loved him. That is what gives me the extreme sadness in my life...
That is why I'm so broody.

solo you never know, maybe the third child is meant to be with the man you share the rest of your life with.

lenniEd, I'm so excited for you! Am wondering if you've already delivered since I'm late logging in today.

eli, we go right into f/t here too; I have to say that was wonderful considering how demanding ds is

Getting late, I will try a more thorough post tomorrow

Sorry so late delivering this good news, have been listening to the mobile ping whilst dealing with the dt's! So nice to be bearer of good tidings twice in as many weeks

Right....Lennied has had her baby at last!! "Baby dylan born at 10.34pm last night (so that would be the 7th Jan). Lovely waterbirth, amazing experience, v.different 2 dd's birth! 7lb 4oz. Coming home in a couple of hours. So lovely not to b pg. Def not having any more!"

Awwww. Very delighted to hear the news, I am, cheered me up no end .

Sorry haven't time to catch up with all the other news although briefly saw that Margo having bad time at work and solo desperately broody and eli of course never getting any sleep (can dh not get a bit to dd so you could have a few more hours btw?) poor thing.

Congratulations Lennied At last! lol at "definitely not having any more" though as the 1st thing I said after DD2 was born is "I want another" and I definitely am not ... so Lennied definitely will

Sorry Margo. Hope things go your way at work. There is nothing worse I have been in some horrible situations.

Congratulations LenniEd! welcome baby Dylan

Jabber, thank you, but it really is too late for me. I'll turn 45 in March and if I met Mr Right tomorrow, I'd want us to be in a proper, serious and loving relationship for several years before thinking about a baby with him, so even if I did meet him tomorrow, I'll be 47 before even considering a baby with him. It just isn't going to happen I'm afraid, so I'll continue to be broody watching everyone around me pg and giving birth and being happy with their lot. I'm not jealous though, just a little envious.
bitter/sweet

Congraulations Lennied! Very happy for you

Solo don't know what to say.

Margo wishing you light at the end of the tunnel.

Eli best wishes for the pre op.

Ds napping, he has thankfully picked the nap up again since being ill He also had his first hair cut yesterday dh took him, I think I'd have cried at all those blond curls on the floor. It is still pretty long, blond and shaggy but not long enough for ringlets Think he is going to be more wavy than curly, it isn't as tight as dh's hair.

Dd asleep on me. Keep having to remind myself that these early weeks were bloody hard with ds too, trying not to do the whole 6 week milestone thing though. Been there, done that and it will settle when it settles not when people say it should! Dd spent last night worrying at me then ds got up at 5am Tell me the 5am waking is just one of those toddler phases, can't put him to bed later he is shattere by bedtime even if he sleeps til 7 or 8! Have bought a dummy but dd not taken to it yet. I find she frets at me when awake and with me and gets all wonund up asking fir a feed but not really wanting it. If I leave her with dh for a couple of hours she feeds like a dream. Hence dummy attempts Dh back at work tomorrow

Hello everyone - I've had a baby! 4 hours 'established' labour apparently. HA BLINKIN HA! TBH those 4hours plus the 2nd car journey to hospital were the only hard bits. Actually was incredible experience, will tell all soon. Waterbirth, G&A, fantastic midwife and DH put in a sterling performance too. Tis amazing what the body can do. I pushed once, everything else just happened by itself really. That whole 'breathing the baby out' thing really can be done. Have to say though now I've done the natural birth thing I have no desire ever to do it again! As completely amazing as it was there were several points where I thought it would have been less painful to die.

On boob now, going ok ish. Gets on fine but then fusses round a bit and knocks latch out a bit which is a bit frustrating. After pains bloody murder when he feeds. Going to have a look at LaLeche (hence why I'm on) to see what the hell I should be doing. Will be back with lots of questions for you all soon.

Haven't read back, will catch up soon, but thanks AQ

Waheyy!!!! Welcome Dylan (love the name), and congrats LenniEd and dp!! Especially LenniEd, of course

Sounds wonderful. I doubt I'd have the energy right now to push out a pea, let alone a baby, but I still love hearing about and secretly the natural birth stories

Solo..., no wonder you feel broody for the bits you missed. Support, for one thing - how major is that. I wonder, if when you do meet Mr Right, the feeling of being a family with the two you have, and him, will take some of that away? Even without doing the actual pg/birth bit? Not all, maybe, but some...I hope so.

Indith, good luck tomorrow

dd's pre-op ok, some I expected info, some bit scary (there's a risk they could take her off me awake and anaesthetise in theatre, apparently I'd like to see them try ...though admittedly, she said thats a very small risk and only if they're worried about her airway. I'm not letting that happen.) and some just...icky. She'll have to be quarantined for 2 weeks post op

And no ice cream! Poor dd2, only toast and ice lollies these days...

Ooooh, colourful icons....LenniEd, take that as a firework display in honour of Dylan's arrival

Indith, ps: 5am waking is definitely a toddler phase. I can't get dd out of bed in the morning now, but she did the 5am bit for a few months, I remember clearly....ish...

Eli, my friend whose DS had the same op said the quarantine bit is pretty easy and flies by. She also said it is the best thing they have ever done

Yes, Indith 5am wakings are a toddler thing. Even DD2 (who as you know is really a teenager) sleeps until 8am like the other 2. Only during the week mind

My mother is going to stay at my step-sister's pub for 2 weeks to look after her 3 DCs whilst my step-sister goes on a cruise. This is the woman who has never lifted a finger to help her own daugher TG for the psycho-therapy I am about to embark on ... and the end of Xmas and the end of dwelling on my crap family.

Indith, Elibean, thank you...

Oh, yippee - Dylan's here Well done LenniEd, sounds like it went like a dream

Solo I second what Eli had to say.

You've been very brave, getting DS's hair cut Indith. I hated it when DD1 got hers cut, and I'm too frightened to do it with DD2 in case she loses her curls. She's got funny hair - really tight ringlets at the back, but dead straight on the front. Am through rose-tinted specs at you feeding a newborn. If I dredge my memory I can vaguely recall that I hated it both times. Funny how time can play tricks, eh?!

Eli, glad you got some more info today, even if some of it was scary. Is DD aware of what's happening? 2 weeks' quarantine - yikes.

Hooray! Congratulations, LenniEd, so pleased the birth was as great as birth ever is . I STILL CLEARLY REMEmber the pain as ds2 crowned and I sympathise entirely. Amazing to have done it that way, though.

Eli, I remember watching one of those kids hospital programes and an anaesthatist(sp?) said that if children are calm as they go under they are calm when they're brought round again and obviously vice versa. So if you can keep her with you while they do it it will be much much better for both of you, at each end of the op. 7 more broken nights sleeps....

Solo, . That's really tough because you're yearning for more than just a baby, aren't you? It's easy to say you have to be grateful for what you do have but it's really not as simplistic as that, we're complex beings and it's very hard to let go of a 'dream', ime.

Castles, good for you, going for the psychotherapy. I can't imagine what you feel about your mum, for all my mum's faults she would never do that.

Indith, 5am definitely a phase that all of mine have been through. He could be cold though - it might be worth putting the heating on a bit earlier or wrap him up a bit more and see if that helps. Good luck when dp goes back to work. I actually found it easier once I was on my own because I settled into more of a 'routine' with both of them.

for Lennid

for solo and margo and castles.

will post more later.

Sorry, castles, missed your bit.

Castles, sorry, I missed it too...comes of rushing around

Psychotherapy has my utter blessing, I honestly don't think I'd have a) managed a relationship or b) managed to dare be a mother without it. Good luck, hope you find/have a good one!

ok, I did'nt miss it, you just posted after I was last on...dear oh dear..!

Honestly, I can't wait for next week now. Or, more truthfully, next month. Oli, there is no way I'm letting them take dd in without me - apparently, they don't really like to but very occasionally, in an 'airway' case (dd is one), they do in case the child has adverse reaction to the anaesthesia and needs rescitating immediately. I doubt they'll class dd as that high risk, but if they do, I'm ready to fight [shaky]

She only weighs 10.something kg, I was shocked when I saw that on the scale this morning. High time those things came out

6 more sleeps, in fact