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December 2006 - Terrible Two's here we come!

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Olihan · 24/11/2008 22:16

Here we go. I thought the title was apt as ds2 has morhed into a stroppy little horror overnight. His favourite expression at the moment is 'I cwoss with you, I sceam at you AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH' .

Happy Birthday ToddlerJabber and ToddlerEli .

DD is poorly again. I swear every bug in the vicinity has some kind of magnetic attraction to her . She has a bit of a temp, headache and earache today. I need to buy shares in Calpol and Medised I think.

Aoa, hotel is a very good idea - go for a posh one so you can have a vvvv hot, deep bath!

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jabberwocky · 18/02/2009 18:33

Had a memorable swearing moment in the car with ds2. Let's just say that we wound up playing a rhyming game of repeating lots of words many many times until he was finally gleefully shouting "Truck, truck, truck!"

Anyone else have a 2 year old obsessed with things like Star Wars, youtube and games on nickjr.com, etc? Ds2 currently on the other computer playing various gummy bear songs. I caught him yesterday starting to print out 6 pages, full ink and color. Thank goodness the printer only had one piece of paper in. He looked at me, pouted and said "It was your card, mommy". Some sort of Valentine card project. I think ds1 has been having an effect on him.

LenniEd · 19/02/2009 21:11

Wow Jabber! No, can't say I do. Your DS2 sounds light years ahead of my DD. And funnily enough she just had her two year check and the dopey HV thought she was 3 - so she passed the 3 year check instead! Sounds like your DS2 would pass one for 5 year olds though!

jabberwocky · 19/02/2009 22:30

lol, LenniEd I thought I had killed the thread. I think having an older brother definitely has something to do with it. Ds1 wasn't like this at all. Congrats on the 3 year check! Does that mean she gets to skip next year?

We're back in the streaming cold and fever club again, btw. Just ds2 atm.

Olihan · 19/02/2009 22:53

DS2 likes to watch the elephant burping on youtube .

TBH, I don't let any of them on the laptop - if they knew how to work it I'd have even less time to MN! It's MUMMY'S computer in the Oli house.

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jabberwocky · 20/02/2009 01:10

We haven't seen that one but the boys love the hippo and the dog singing the Lion Sleeps Tonight.

EustaciaVye · 20/02/2009 09:14

Morning all.

Have an eye infection.

Have 2 bored kids.

Am accepting I need to stop my work for our business as it is growing to quick for me to keep up.

Off to nearest big town on train with kids later to go shopping and eat cake.

castlesintheair · 20/02/2009 09:45

DS is the computer whizz in our house. DD1&2 never get a look in so not aware of their ability or lack of it.

Talking of check-ups, it came to light during an immunisation yday that DD2 hasn't had any check-ups since she was about 6 weeks. Do I care? Naat.

Having a cool half-term here. Am loving the lack of routine. It really helps to have so many great friends on our doorstep too

Hope eye infection clears soon EV.

accessorizequeen · 21/02/2009 08:33

hi all, just keeping you on my list internet connection pretty slow and not able to get on much. Up all night with dd & ds3, dp taken the ds's to gm's. Poor dd has cp, hope she doesn't get as scabby as ds2!
struggling, trying to get some counselling. Sure a good night's sleep (or at least a couple of hours between midnight and dawn) would help a lot though.
I'm in the mood so hugs to all!

Indith · 21/02/2009 11:34

Sleep doesn't exist between midnight and dawn AQ did you not know that? (dd sleeps beautifully until around then and spends the rest of the night tossing and turning and fussing) No chance of shoving a couple of bottles and children at dp a night a week or something? Hugs in return to you, you sound like you need them. Hope the CP goes away soon (on the bright side is that not your house poxed out and thus pox free for the future now?)

Ds doesn't know what to do with a computer other than tug at my sleeves if I'm on it and bash the keyboard a bit

Hope the cake was good EV. Eye infections can be cured with cake I'm sure of it.

I am child free! Dh has taken both of them for a walk. Not that he will be out long as madam is feeding pretty frequently at the moment. I was going to clean the bathroom but seem to have been side tracked. Will have to think about lunch for ds soon though as I expect that as usual when dh goes out with ds he will come back late for lunch so ds will be complaining and on the verge of throwing a tantrum if it isn't in the table when he gets home

Ds jabbering away constantly and utterly adorable (mostly). Dd grinning and cooing and cute. Still the fussiest feeder in the world which is annoying as it is making feeding her something I do to give my child food rather than something I enjoy if that makes sense. Someone coming on Mon to take a look though and see if we can improve things.

jabberwocky · 22/02/2009 03:22

Fingers crossed for a good night. We have had 3 nights of no sleep with coughing, snotty, feverish boys. They seem better this evening.

Sending good sleep vibes to everyone else.

Elibean · 22/02/2009 17:18

Aaaahhhh drowning under piles of washing.

It wasn't glam, it was hard work, I'm v glad I'm home, both dds were ill. But hey, I planted a lovely smelling Parisian primrose plant in dgm's garden for her, and said my goodbyes. And came home with a few funny little souvenirs. And bought the dds some Monoprix summer clothes. So not all bad, though omg it was insane at times....

Wish I had time to elaborate (be glad I haven't!)

And am still helping dm and elderly uncle with complex legal/house-selling stuff I have no idea how to deal with in English, let alone French

Sorry to hear of eye infections (dd2 has one, did cake work Oli? If anyone's cakes work, of course, t'would be yours!) and lack of sleep....glad to hear of unstructured fun halftermishness....look forward to more time to catch up, and less crumpled clothes to wash.

LenniEd · 22/02/2009 18:26

Hi all, bit of a nightmare couple of days here, think I've hit 6 week growth spurt. Pinned down feeding and nips hurt! If I can get through this one then next one is 4 months ish (in theory) so would be lovely to think I have made it through the worst. So glad I was expressing to up supply though, that has saved me really.

Welcome home Eli.

Hello Indith and AQ. Look after yourselves.

Hope boys better soon Jabber.

Elibean · 23/02/2009 10:04

Thanks, LenniEd

Poor nips. Hope they're getting some rest and lanolin today, and that their owner is getting a big pat on the back (and cake) for getting through the worst of the growth spurts....I remember that one.

Indith, as French-fog clears from brain am remembering what you said about feeding and how it feels - I felt exactly the same with dd1, it was always hard work (till I stopped BFing, sadly). By the time she was a year old, it was pretty much forgotten and she's been soo easy with solids...I wonder, with hindsight, whether she may have had a touch of silent reflux?? Just a thought.

Have caught dd1's gastroenteritis (which it turned out to be) and feel weak, aargh, dh still rough with asthma and dd2 has cold from hell. But am still happy to be home

accessorizequeen · 23/02/2009 10:32

hullo all, glad you're back eli and sounds like the trip was worth it but sorry for all the illness. Does seem to be something about Feb doesn't it?
indith, sorry dd's feeding not so good I certainly know what that's like and makes life a great deal more difficult than it needs to be with toddler + baby. When you say fussy, what is she doing as one of us might have had similar situation?

both twins have chicken pox now, ds3 high temp as well yesterday and dd v.upset with it. Could not get ds3 to feed from me for much of the weekend so the decision seems to have been made and he's having formula full time it seems. Very but also quite relieved as all he would do was scream and this is with gaviscon for the reflux! DP pointed out that bf never seemed to comfort him or make him happy so seems pointless to do something that makes us both unhappy. Felt better once I had read up on eczema research as he's 5 months this week and I've done my best I feel. He's got patches behind his knees which was making me feel more guilty that he'd get full blown rashes once I gave up. Going to be odd now not feeding them together after months of looking on their little faces on my v pillow.

jabber, how are the boys now, has ds1 been off school with it all? Poor you and dh!

castlesintheair · 23/02/2009 11:08

Can't believe your twins are 5 months AQ. That has flown by! Well done on managing to feed them both for 5 months. That is impressive

Sorry to hear of family-related trauma/sickness Eli. Hope you all feel better soon.

I would definitely rule-out reflux Indith, if you haven't already. Also how is her tongue?

DH and I spent ages talking about my career (to be) last night. It was so stimulating. And a bit scary

Elibean · 23/02/2009 15:55

Career to be? More, please, Castles! I'm on tenterhooks...is this speech therapy?

AQ, 5 months for both is brilliant, well done. dd1 (who never seemed to enjoy BF much either) had mild eczema, and I tailed off at 5-6 months with her...I did the research too

I do remember the feeling though. Give yourself a big unMNy hug, please...

CP is horrid, sympathies! I'm still waiting for dd2 to get it (dd1 had it quite badly, and in spite of sharing a bath/kisses/cuddles dd2 didn't catch it then).

jabberwocky · 23/02/2009 17:57

LenniEd, I well remember the growth spurt/sore nips phase That's a tough one to power through.

AQ, I think you've done fabulous to get to 5 months. It sounds like everyone will be a bit more relaxed now and that's got to be a good thing. So sorry to hear about the pox making the rounds.

Castles, do spill about the career to be!

Both boys home sick again today. They looked ghastly this morning but after I had both of them use the breathing machine they have perked up considerably. Ds2 still not doing as well as ds1 but is more up and about now so I'm not as worried. I had started to have thoughts of RSV/pneumonia type stuff but maybe it really is just icky chesty cold.

Clearing up a few final snags on the house sale in the middle of all of that this morning. We should close in 2 weeks - fingers crossed, knock on wood and all that.

Indith · 23/02/2009 20:26

Congrats on the growth spurt Lennied. Look after those nips now!

AQ but for you on the feeding. Hope things are easier with him on bottles. You have done so well to get this far, would be enough of a challenge with 2 easy feeders.

Castles do tell us more about the career!

Jabber hope the boys get better soon.

My boy is the snot monster from snot land again. Had a temp today too, which I only noticed half way through the morning when he had a friend over to play. Ooops. He was rather more reluctant than usual to share toys. Any attempt to touch toys by the other boy was met by cries of "noooooooo!" even if over the other side of the room Ds did provide me and half of Durham with great amusement this afternoon though with a spectacular public tantrum after I made him leave the ELC with its temtpting array of toys. Cue ds throwing himself to the floor and crawing back towards the shop screaming for all he's worth.

dd and feeding. Hmmm. Well her latch is terrible as she has been snotty most of her life so she doesn't form a good seal and gulps a lot of air. I think that is why she prefers to feed lying down as she finds it easier then to have one side of her mouth open. I think that is starting to improve a little as sometimes when she comes off my nipple is elongated like they get from feeding. Mostly you can't even tell she's been feeding (does that make sense?). She hates, hates hates the letdown and screams at it, gags, splutters, coughs etc and it is so hard to persuade her to keep feeding after that (I do have a strong letdown so I can sympathise with her as it generally involves 3 or 4 jets that reach half way across the room when she comes off). She prefers the left to the right, even lying down to feed I have to be on my left hand side, she will then accept the right breast but will not feed the other way round. Sometimes, maybe once a day, I manage a feed sitting up (always on the left breast) but even then she bobs on and off constantly, she never gets a good sucking rhythm going, it is gulp gulp off, gulp, splutter off. She fed so well in the first week or so of her life! I am at the stage where I just can't feed her out of the house as she just screams and splutters and I shoot milk everywhere (I have got other people, it is not funny!). Obviously this makes it very hard with ds as I can't always manage to force enough down her to make her happy. I did try her on expressed the other day and she took a little but I am reluctant to give more until I've go ther sorted even though expressed when out could make that part easier.

Her tongue doesn't look heart shaped or anything though it doesn't feel like she gets it in the right place when latching. She doesn't do the stiff as a board reflux thing and is perfectly happy after a feed/after I give up, if I dare to offer the right breast while sitting up she is liable to start kicking off before she has even triggered the letdown!

Right rant over, I am off to give dh a token snuggle before heading to bed. Poor bloke feelng neglected I think, I went to bed at 7.45 yesterday! Bad weekend! Dh is getting all smothering with affection, can't walk past him without him stopping me for a cuddle or kiss. Sure sign of feeling neglected! Trouble is it just makes me annoyed "I am trying to put the washing away and sit down stop getting in my way!"

EustaciaVye · 23/02/2009 20:49

Indith. Have you tried any of the breastfeeding helplines? They may have some advice.

Castles - have a good day tomorrow whatever you do

LenniEd · 23/02/2009 21:13

Indith, I wish I could help. Did you say you have a bf counsellor coming to see you? Must admit I'd be inclined to give EBM when out just so you aren't trapped in the house, but can see why you want to avoid that. Sounds very hard, and I really hope it comes good for you soon.

I can sympathise with the fast letdown, I have that on one side which DS struggles with esp if breast is full. I can express 6oz off that side in about 5 minutes so can see why he struggles, DD never managed to drink a bottle that quick at 12mo. My other side I had pierced whilst a rebelious teenager and despite having taken the piercing out nearly 10 years ago I must have damaged the nipple sufficiently to slow the letdown enough for DS to favour that side... not recommending piercing to solve letdown issues though!

Ooo yes Castles, tell us more...

DS down to 2 hourly feeds today and I am feeling human again, as opposed to cow like. Went to Chester zoo for the day and it was fab, am so jealous of Oli having it on her doorstep. I haven't been for 20 years and it was so much nicer than I remembered.

Jabber, I hope DS2 is better today.

AQ... 5months where did that go?! You've done an amazing job with those two and bf! I will honestly be over the moon to get to 5 months with just one baby and he's been pretty textbook with feeding.

LenniEd · 23/02/2009 21:14

Would you believe it possible that I x-posted with you then EV? I must learn to type faster while feeding!

Elibean · 23/02/2009 22:11

Indith, it does sound hard - dd1 hated feeding on one side, till I took her to the cranial osteopath down the road: I was a total disbeliever until one visit sorted her out, she fed on both sides after that (albeitly still fussily) without any preference. Worth a try??? It does make sense that strong let down, and sitting up, would be tricky for her if bunged up though, poor thing.

Jabber, hope your boys are better v soon, and that the breathing stays less scary - sounds as though you had a worrying time. dh has asthma again (it started while we were away) and has reminded me how scary breathing issues can be. I thought we were going to have to miss our train home and call an ambulance for a moment. He's on steroids now, but still ashen and exhausted.

And dd1 is worrying about her parents dying, very Reception-age, I know, but think a week in a dead ggm's house and her mum worrying about her dad didn't help

Elibean · 23/02/2009 22:15

And hope your ds is better too, Indith.

LenniEd, I'm glad you're feeling human again and had to at the piercing-to-moderate-letdown bit...don't suppose a rebellious teen would think about that particular advantage whilst justifying their piercings to shocked elders, huh?!

castlesintheair · 23/02/2009 22:18

Thanks EV I had to think for a minute there ... wonder why that is?!

I do hope you get some advice/help Indith. DD2 had a minor tongue tie which DH (should have been a doctor) spotted in hospital. She was really gagging/fussing up until we had it snipped. Just brings back a few memories, don't wish to raise any alarm bells for you.

Congrats on the house move Jabber. Am keeping it all crossed for you. Hope your boys are on the mend soon.

I'm off to bed, sad ole git that I am. Will update you on 'my brilliant career' another time ... wasn't that the title of a film or book ...?

MARGOsBeenPlayingWithMyNooNoo · 23/02/2009 22:25

I found it extremely frustrating when I had latching problems with dd2 - I thought experience would help establish b/f but these kids try their best to drive their mums to distraction.

dd2 is currently going through an "mummy I scared" phase.