Jan '07 part 25: Tell our families that they may take our social lives, but they'll never take our FRREEEEEDOMMMMM!

[2Happy]

Now paint your face blue, and stick your tongue out at the world - end especially the half-wit-mid-life-crisis-lacking-common-sense-PMT-suffering-eejits we otherwise call men.

eandh, ratbunny, susie, UD - this one's for you

[eandh]

Lizz sorry to hear about the eczema maybe the getting worse bit means its clearingout of your system and will get better?

PCF - sounds as if you had a good day, hope Max sttled now

UD - I have lost that msn convo with address can you email it to me [email protected] (sorry )

Re hair I am glad neither of mine were boys as they've had a fair mop of hair by 1, in fact Hattie has to either have bunches or the front tied/clipped back as it gets in her way (pic on profile of her bunches )

Had a lovely evening went to my brothers for chinese, Hattie been up since 5am and had a 2 hour nap at 9.30 so thought she'd be tired but she napped for 10mins on way there then stayed up and had chinese and they both fell asleep at 8.45 when we got in the car so hopefully not another 5am start tomorrow

Anyway know how to get manky milk smell from car, HAttie dropped her beaker of warm milk in it the otehr night (we had to go and get dh from work and it was bedtime) and lid came off and now car stinks of 'off milk' and making me retch even though I have wiped the spillage

[Shimmer]

No hair cuts here either. F's hair is finally growing and is qute fair and curly It does stick out quite a bit now (totally there with the mad professor look!), but is still quite patchy in places, and he didn't have hair for so long I don't want to cut it now!

Today was the 2nd time this month F didn't have ANY sleep during the day. PLEASE someone tell me that this is much much too early to drop daytime naps...I don't think I could cope...

[susiecutiebananas]

Funny you should mention hair, I was lookig at Isobels today. Its very red- strawberry really, it has a lot of blonde in it too, so actually is really really pretty. Trouble is, the back and sides are growing beautifully, not the top, so she has a really terrible mullet. Yep, my daughter is sporting a red mullet

So, I was thinking maybe I ought to trim the sides and back, but its so pretty and a it curly and whispy round the ears. Just from the front looks really strange. What should I do???

Hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Its pissing down here. We're back home now, Izzy has had an hour and half crying now. I think she just is n't sure whats going on. She had 2 playmates all week, and SO much room to potter aroud in. She doesn't appear to be as pleased to be home as I am! ot sure the massive back tooth and the 2 little ones at the front are helping though...

[eandh]

Shimmer - Hattie does that about once a week and Ellie dropped her naps before she was 2 so its looking likeHattie will be the same [sob]

Susie - I'd be inclined to give it a little trim to tidy it up and even it out

Well so much for lay in - Hattie up at 5.31 and ellie and dh still asleep, Hattie is dressed up in a nurses outfit and currently listening to my foot with a stephoscope (sp)

[SmoothandWilkie]

UD/Susie - I second the red tinge too (eek!) although I am saying 'strawberry blonde' Susie, girls can get away with red hair, I think it looks pretty but boys....well.....hmm. Haveing said that, DH's best mate is a ginge and has probably slept with more girls than I have had hot dinners so maybe the ginger gene makes them irresistable. DH is questioning WHY his son has the ginger gene though and the finger of suspicion is pointing to his BF

Woke up with another migraine, bollocks, looks like the tablets the GP prescribed have stopped working. Back to GP I think. It has worn off now though as I took some horse pills to nuke it.

[theAfkaUrbanDryad]

Wilkie - my best friend is ginger (and a bloke) and we are wondering why Z has got a red tinge to his hair (a ginge tinge - LOL - why is that funny?? think the hysteria is kicking in ) i like to call it mahogany as it's brown really. i think it just looks a bit ginger because it's so fine

[Lizzzombie]

We had a lie in until.....6:07am!!!! Wow - yesterday I nearly died I was so tiered I just kept slumping over the till!

Will post DJs pixi photo up next week so you can see how long/curly his hair is.

We are off to London today to DP's mates baby's christening. Hopefully we will have time to do something else also. Am thinking shopping in Kensington High Street.....? x

[Lizzzombie]

LOL - And the title for the next thread is:

Jan 2007 - Part 73: The Ginge has landed....!

[pinkcandyfloss]

We were sure Max had a bit of a tinge too when he was younger but think it's definitely blonde now. Expect it will get darker at some point though as both me and dh have dark hair.

We were woken up about 7 by Alex knocking on our bedroom door saying 'hellloooooooo' so we told him to go and play in his room. Drifted off til about half 7 when we could hear Max wailing and Alex shouting 'SHUT UP MAX'

Off to both sets of parents today and our old car is ending on ebay tonight so hope that will give us a bit of extra cash. We were gonna scrap it but they were going for more on ebay so thought we'd give it a try.

Hope you all have a nice day

[ladytophamhatt]

Morning Ladies.
Nothing much to report here but thought I'll make a effort to say hello more often.

Lizz, we got G's one and only pixie photo through teh other day. Its nice photo but because its a head and shoulders one its just an enormas picture of his massive great swede head and his flaky mottled excema skin(sounds lovey, doesn't it??).
Glad I only got one now, I couldn't believe it when teh bloke got paint brush and easle out for teh photos. I even said "Good god, Cheesefest photo alert" or somesuch but he carried on.

Ummmmm, I can't think of anything else to say.

Hope you are all OK.

xx

[ladytophamhatt]

George has/had a ginger tinge too. It going blonder now though.

how weird that they're so many strawberry blondes() on the thread

[2Happy]

Afraid we're a ginge-free, though one of my neices has very strawberry bonde hair. ds1 didn't need his hair cut for ages as his was all curly when he was wee, though it's much straighter now. His started totally straight and dark, but is much fairer now. ds2 never lost his baby hair, he's been straight and dark and lots of it since he was born, so he's had it cut a few times already. Despite short hair, and a lack of pink, people still keep asking what her name is - I think it's the abundance of eyelashes

[looshkin]

We have had to attack ds with scissors as well (I think I mentioned having to call him willamina as his locks were so lucious)- well got the mil to do as i am crap with this sort of thing - he got hysterical half way so the left side needs a bit more work. We are ginge free here although dh has a ginger beard despite being peruvian so there is definitely a rogue gene in there somewhere.

Right off to hoover up dead mouse and birds bits -hmm lovely (from the cats by the way) will try and post personals later.

loosh

[vinorouge]

Been busy....sorry for not being around for a week or so. Not even had chance to catch up reading whats going on until today.

Went to a wedding in London yesterday with my mum which was nice. First time I've driven in London and it wasn't too bad.

I took Ellen for her first hair cut on Thurs, just had her fringe cut, couple of inches off the length and weight out of the top. Kept the curls at the side so they stick out, wanted it to be 'natural and unrul' but not in her eyes. I'm not ready for her to have a neat hairstyle IYKIM.

Been shattered lately and had to give in and have daytime naps. Have packed a few things in a bag ready for hospital - bought some newborn nappies today that seem sooo tiny.

Ellen took to sleeping in her bed like a dream. No more falling out! She starts moving up to the next room in nursery this week so she suddenly seems a big girl.

Wilkie - great news about the consultancy work.

Lizz - pmsl at the mystery shopper story. There's nothing like practical advice!

[Reggiee]

Hi all.
Had a hectic family-fest weekend. Dsis and her three kids came to stay so with four in the house it's been chaos (LTH - how do you do it??).
Was dad's birthday party today (big one ending in a zero), he had a great time, and loads of people round, but I am knackered. LO was so excited she didn't sleep this lunchtome so was grumpy as you like all afternoon.

Just spoke to one of my best mates. She had a baby boy on Friday so was getting all the gory details. He was an undiagnosed breech (am an expert on that!)but she had a normal birth and is back home.
God I am sooooooo broody. Eah - I would be top of your list but dh still says no. Sob . Any ideas how to sway him?

Lo's hair is dark, and loads of it. No ginge here . MAss of curls at the back. Clips are the way forward for us atm.

Vino - glad you're finally getting some rest!

[laughalot]

Rgee how about a accidental pregnancy

[ratbunny]

ok, so I owe all of you lot an update.

After I talked to Sam on friday, I was really concerned for him. I have been saying for a logng time that he is having somekind of crisis / breakdown, and that he is seriously depressed.

I am confident that his 'seeing' this woman was actually him talking to her about all the shit that has been going on. He has said that nothing except talking happenened, and I do believe him. If nothing else, he is honest. The fact that he was clicking with someone else, I think, drew attention to our relationship, and he wanted out. tbh, I dont think (or actually, I KNOW) that he wasnt in his right mind, but more about that later.

He came and saw S early on Saturday, as he had said, left his best mate with me and disappeared off. Just as I was about to leave for NOrwich, I called him to check on him. I am really glad I did. You dont want to know the ins and outs, but the end result is that he has been diagnosed with severe depression, is now on valium and cant be left alone.

He has finally admitted to himself that he needs help with his mental well being. He has made a massive mountain out of what was essentially a tiny molehill. He is going to the doctors to sort out treatment, and I really recommended to him that he is counselled. He had a REALLY violent and abusive childhood, and I think that becoming a dad has set off loads of things in his head.

I know you are all going to shoot me down, but I did know that something was wrong with him, he was acting so out of character. I know what it's like to be severely depressed, and I know how it pushes you into a hole and how self destructive it can be. Our relationshp was in trouble, and I think he (and the depression) believed nothing was worth while. I dont think he could see a way forward, except out.

The end result is that I am back home. I intend to support him through this, and then we will reevaluate our relationship. I know we have a lot to work on. And I know he has been a total git, but at the end of the day, he is my git.

Just thought I should let you all know, seeing as I went totally ape shit, and guessed the worst. You lot have been great.

And thanks urban, for the msning. Sorry I was a bit lary!!

[Reggiee]

HI Rat. Thanks for the update. V pleased you may be able to work through. Depression is really tough to deal with. ((hugs)).

Lal - funnily enough, someone else said that too whilst dh was in the room and we were talking about it . DOn't think I'd be able to cope with another dc though unless he too was 100% behind it.

NEed a wee. Can't be bothered though and want to do more Mnetting . I reckon if I go upstairs I might head straight to bed

[laughalot]

Rat I think you are extremely strong for doing that and I am very proud of you, I hope for you, dh and s it all works out xxxx

[SmoothandWilkie]

Rat - I admire you for being so strong. Depression IS an awful awful things but I strongly believe that ifhe has had such a terrible childhood then he defo needs to see a counsellor. He is having his mid-life crisis earlier than some. Make sure you look after YOU too though!

Reg - I agree that although it sounds like the perfect solution, getting pg by mistake, you would have to live with the guilt of knowing forever and I couldn't do it. I think you need to have a serious discussion with DH though - maybe even write it down for him to read with your reasons?

Vino - hallelujah! You finally threw in the towel and accepted mid-afternoon naps. Enjoy them while you can.

EAH - how's things with DH now?

Well, I am not at work today cos have still got a banging migraine type headache - have made appt to see dr at 2.30pm to see what other tablets I can go on. I couldn't get pregnant on the ones I am taking at the moment anyway. This is my third one in a month and they are not fun

[pinkcandyfloss]

Rat - I think it is a great thing that you are standing by your man in light of his illness. Really hope things get better for you both.

Woke up in a really foul mood today which only just seems to be lifting. PMT me thinks!
Alex went off in the minibus today quite happily and an older girl put his seatbelt on for him. It makes me smile as it's so lovely that the older children love him and mother him on there - what a complete difference from the taxi he was going in!

Got the boys their sand and water table yesterday so going to put it up soon and have Max out in the garden for a bit.

[pinkcandyfloss]

wilkie- hope the doc can help you out- they sound horrible!

[SmoothandWilkie]

PCF - it is. If someone could chop off the right hand side of my head at the front the prob would be solved!

Great news re Alex - that is SO cute. Does he seem happier?

We have a sand and water table. I have only used it for water so far but J loves it. Am planning on buying a Little Tikes Jungle Climber for our new house! here

[SmoothandWilkie]

Oh and I meant to say. A consumer product trial company I work for (thank you Reggiee for link) sent me an Intuition Plus (Wilkinson Sword) razor to try. I HATE shaving my legs but this one has got built in shaving foam in a block so you don't have to use any extra stuff. It's great! Took me two mins to shave my legs AND I've had no ingrowing hairs. They are only about £5 and I have some money off coupons they also sent me if anyone wants one?

The company is called BzzAgent.co.uk

Just thought I would spread the word!

[Dragonhart]

Well, Luke and Ruth have been sleeping in the same room for the last three nights! First night- Really struggled to get them to sleep, but slept well at night. Second and third nights, they just went to sleep straight away and both didnt wake up! However they are now waking earlier as when one wakes up, the other does too, but when Luke starts preschool in afew weeks, we will have to be up early anyway as it take s us ages to get ready in the morning!

I am so relieved as I was really worried they wouldnt sleep at all and had put it off for a month.

I need to get Ruth into a toddler bed by the time I have this baby as I am having a section again so wont be able to lift her out of the cot when DH goes back to work. Any suggestions for a cheap, good qualitly one? Ideally with a bit of a guard at the top of the bed so that when I put one of those fold down ones the whole side of the cot is covered.

I have looked online at Argos, Mothercare and Ikea but any other suggestions or recomendations for the Argos, MC and Ikea ones would be great!


Rgee- Try saying you would love 4! Sure he will soon think 2 sounds like a great idea

Rat- Think you are very strong too. Hope he fully admits he has a problem and will take the counciling seriously so that you can stay together. xxx

Laughalot- I havent got an email from you with address to send the suncream to. Just checking if I have not received it or that you just hadnt got round to it!

Lizz- All eczema is different and when I was looking at Allergies topic about suncreams it was pretty clear that what works for one person doesnt work for another. Things like hydrocortazone (sp?) cream, emolient creams and aqueous cream dont work all that well for
Luke and tend to make it all worse. E45 is terrible for him and when he ised their suncream his skin was almost cracking behind his knees and he has never had it so bad. Then when I got more Aveeno cream it improved dramtically. Seems to be a case of trial and error. Hope you find something that works.

Vino- Hope the naps are helping.

Was it Susie asking about the girls hair cut? I couldnt decide about doing Ruths but I just gave it a trim around the b ack and sides then afew weeks later it looked loads better and thicker too. Luke's hair is curly and I love it! He is quite a sweaty boy and when he is running about, it goes into tight little curls all around the edges so he looks like a little angel. Of course when he is bashing Ruth or throwing his cars he is nothing like an angel!!!