Oct 2007 - This little piggy had pureed butternut squash and a slice of pear...

[alicet]

Well thought I should start a new thread in time to link it on the old one!!!

OH MY GOD INZI, ISN'T A FAINT POSITIVE LINE A A POSITIVE NO MATTER HOW FAINT? Are you gonna test again?
Very excited for you and and and !!!
Keep us updated

Haven't read through yet but saw inzi's news - OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with Dal - it's much harder to have a positive result when you're not pregnant than the other way round.... Plus sounds like you have all the symptoms! How very exciting! Keep us posted!

Just about to put Sam to bed and will read through rest of posts later....

inzi - OMG!!!!!! ... first one of us to take the plunge again!

my news (much less exciting now) is that Mairwen has a tooth! I had a dreadful night with her, got up at 12.30 ... finally got back to bed at 4.30 ... then, this morning, noticed that there was a white spot on her gum ... it didn't show any signs!

Going on holiday on Sunday ... now starting to think about what we need to take - I'd been packing for about 2 weeks before we went away with R for the first time!

yllp - muppetgirl is bringing H up for the tiddly prom at St. David's Hall (July the something, I think), and will be staying over in Cardiff / Penarth on the Saturday night - we were thinking of meeting up at some point over that weekend. Would be lovely if you wanted to come too.

alice - are you coming down to Ledbury any time over the holidays? We could arrange to all go to Bristol zoo or something!

Madam is screaming, demanding my presence - now I know why she's on perma-whinge, I feel really guilty for being a neglectful ma!

Crochet - Hope you have a fab time in France! Very jealous! I'm probably not going to be in Ledbury this summer. Mum and Dad are having loads of work done to their house so there will be nowhere for us to stay. May head down anyway and stay in a B&B or something but more likely they'll come up here instead. I'll let you know if plans change though as I would love to see you again (and muppet and YLLP of course!) Congrats on weight loss too!

Dal well done you for seeing the doc. I think it's a really hard step to take - to be brave enough to admit you are struggling. And the first step to getting help. Even if you are feeling a little better. Sounds like she was great at trying to allay your worries about Dylan too and she makes a lot of sense with what she said.

Muppet you sound like life is treating you really well! You put me to shame the amount of stuff you do with your boys! When I get a bit more energy I might manage something more exciting than park and Cafe Nero - here's hoping!

Inzi (still reeling with your other news...) I give Adam tap water and have since he was 6 months. He seems fine.

Lisa - you may well be in London by now - hope Ben is better so that you can go without feeling guilty. I think whether you should go depends on how you will feel. If you will spend the whole weekend worrying about him and not enjoying the break I would stay home and plan another break soon. If you think you will be able to put it to the back of your mind and enjoy a well deserved break and you trust whoever is looking after him (can't remember sorry) to let you know if he gets worse and to look after him well then I think you should go. Certainly not a bad mummy - its bloody hard with 2 little ones and you need a break! Sam was ill when we went skiing. Admittedly not until after we left but we stayed away and Mum and Dad would have been really disappointed if we had come home early... Anyway this waffling is probably pointless as you will have made the decision one way or another anyway - hopefully you've gone as can't see a post from you since Thurs...

J2O pmsl at your friends little boys comments on your mary!!!!!

YLLP hello! Know how you feel about struggling to find the time to get on here! Adam does the playing with the keyboard trick too! Really out of order for RL to spoil MN time but I'm finding that too...

Well I have been struggling a bit the last few days. Totally totally shattered. I've been a bit ill with a nasty cold too which I think has really broken me so to speak. I'm also finding it hard to get my confidence back at work - kind of feels a bit like I'm not doing anything very well at the mo. Feel really useless at work and I'm too tired to enjoy my time with the boys as much as I usually do cue loads of guilt! I know things willget better and it's unrealistic to expect that I could just go back to work and be up to speed so quickly but that doesn't seem to help me really. It is also hard that the hospital where I work has a lot of registrars that are much more senior than me which kind of makes me feel even more useless. I will get there though - just feeling a bit sorry for myself! Dh is a star and is going to do most of the night feeds / getting the boys up tonight so I can have some decent sleep which I am sure will make everything seem better. Here's hoping that I don't keep coughing myself awake and can take advantage!!!!

Anyway off to finish cooking tea now and then off to bed early.... Will try to get on again over the weekend - hope you all have a lovely time xxxxxxxx

hi all

Inzi-am speechless! Congratulations!!! any positive line, even faint means pregnant i think, you crazy woman!! Am very excited for you, how are you feeling about it? just read a bit more and read about the aptimal, bugger, i've got some in the cupboard for Shannon.

oh thats about all i can remember, I am so rubbish, oh Alice, sorry your feeling crappy, hopefully when you get yourself back into the routine and used to it, it should get a little easier, i think you are superwoman, working and having the boys! it takes all my energy to cope with the girls and keep on top of the housework.

LLL-have you gone to London? if so hope you have a lovely time, and also Crochetdiva, hope you have a fab time away, am very jealous.

Hi to FT, Anyasmum, Dal and everyone else i've missed.

Shannon has started pulling herself up now, she can't do it on my leather couch so uses peoples legs. oh also, she's had dioreah(sp) for the past week or so, am going t stop giving her themfromage frais as she has one everyday after her lunch and thats the only thing i can think of that may be affecting her, also she's still such a sicky baby, am wondering if she still has reflus or a slight intolerance to milk, any ideas?

I've not been on properly cos the last few weeks have been feeling pretty down, not sure why, but i'm trying to rise above it, am thinking of maybe getting away with the 2 girls, posibly contacting a single parent agency or something.

has anyone got there lo's passports yet? I applied for Shannons online and they've sent it back for photos, to be signed..etc, but do i need to get the photos and form countersigned?

I think i'm coming down with something so going to try and get an early night

Inzi: How wonderful!!! Hope you get your definative BFP soon.. oooh,15 months apart WOW!
(...ohh I do wish it was me too)

LLL: I hope Ben improved and you have gone for your well earned break and that you allowed yourself to enjoy it.

Crotchet: Congratulations to Mairwen on her new tooth (from toothless Alex)Have a fantastic holiday.

Alice: ((((BIG HUG)))) Not a lot I can say to help...it does sound a bit like you are expecting miracles of yourself (perfect registrar, mother of two tiny tots, wife,cook and housekeeper)but I really hope the cold gets lost quickly, that you get a good nights sleep that works a miracle and that you can feel more like your normal, positive self very, very soon.

Hi to everyone I haven't mentioned

Inzi - Oh well, at least you're kind of ok about it. Now you how you feel about it, seems like you'll be happy whenever it happens so maybe just enjoy the rest (if you can call it that with Jane!) until the next one comes along.
Think i'd feel exactly the same if we had the same situation, totally excited and happy and ready to deal with it but would also have felt some relief if it wasn't the case as I feel we need a break before the next one anyway.
Dh said to me the other day that he realy wants to enjoy Dylan before we have the next one and I totally agree, we are planning to start trying for the next one in about a year but we also said that if a surprise pops up in the meantime we'll be happy with that too , after all, Dylan was a surprise and he's wonderful!
I remember the [happy][happy] feeling all too well from before we had Dylan, we weren't realy ttc but had taken a few risks now and again and I was quite up for the idea even if dh wasn't sure
Well, i'm gonna go give Dylan his muller little stars fromage frais, he loves them .
Take care inzi,

inzi-i think you should test again, just to be sure, i had an af with dd1 and the positive line did show up the first time.
am glad you feel ok about it either way

Inzi sorry to hear af arrived although glad you're not too disappointed. Maybe just wasn't meant to be this time hey? And 15 months would have been great when they were older but rock hard when they're little!!!!

J2O sorry you're down honey. Sending you big hugs... And I'm not superwoman - the trick is I don't stay on top of the housework!!!! Re the passport yes you do need it countersigned. Doc and teacher can do it amoung others - you will probably be able to get dd1's teacher? Or GP? If you are stuck stick it in the post to me and I'll sign it for you!

Thanks to all of you for your kind words and messages of support. I think you're right Floria that I expect too much of myself and I'm trying to chill about it. Feel better this am after a good night's sleep - always helps to put things in perspective I find!

Oh and Dal Adam (and Sam) loves the mullers little stars too!

inzi, that was meant to go...
J20 - sorry you've been feeling a bit low, maybe a break away is just what you need, i'd invite you to come to sunny Berwick but the spare room is so full of crap you can't walk in to it without stepping between things, we're currently on a mission to sort it out once and for all! Of course, once it's clear you are welcome to come anytime and I mean that
Anyway, keep talking to us on here about, thats what we're here for
Alice - you are a superwoman to me, just for the amount of things you attempt to do, never mind whether they're done to your standards or not, you have my admiration just for trying! I am currently fighting my way through piles of washing and general cleaning, I don't even work at the moment and only have 1 lo!
Glad you've managed to get some rest thanks to your wonderful dh and that you're feeling a little better this morning.
Well, i've put some washing on, started the dishwasher off, put washing in the dryer, made our dinner ready for dh finishing work at 12 and Dylan is asleep. I'm having a little rest before I contemplate folding some of the clean washing (iron rarely used in this house).
I have to admit, when I heard inzi's news last night it got me thinking, I can't wait to be pregnant again, how mad is that when I was pregnant just 7 months ago? I can also recall moaning on and on about being sick of being pregnant and just wanting to give birth already. I'm really confused cause I love the idea of getting pregnant, being pregnant and giving birth to another wonderful little miracle but the thought of looking after 2 of them is scary sh*t!!! Guess i'll have to actually do it eventually if I want more dc though.
What does everyone think to the age gap we are planning (finances allowing) - we were thinking of ttc when Dylan is 18 months old so that would be next April onwards, he would be about 2y 3mo old if we concieved straight away when the baby would be born. Of course we might not concieve straight away so he could be older than that...
Oppinions welcome .
By the way, i'm still feeling good and am finding I am getting my motivation back to do things I couldn't be bothered to do when I was feeling down. I'm thinking my mood was linked to my af too as it was low around that time so i'll see what happens with the next one.
TMI alert - also with my returning good mood I have had a return of libido, poor dh has been worn out he doesn't know whats hit him
Well, hello to anyone I haven't mentioned and i'll chat to you all soon

Wow that was long but unbelievably I missed something out...
Crochet - wow at Mairwen's tooth! Bet it looks realy cute. I want Dylan to get a tooth, not fair!

By the way i've added 3 new pics of the little man, check em out!

Awww Dal!!! Doesnt he look just like his daddy? And I love the funky pjs....your gorgeous bf shot reminds me I really must get one done of Alex bfing before he self weans ( no sign yet but you never know when ) {grin]Wonderful that you have your libido back...that will do your seratonin levels the power of good too!I'm sure your Dh isnt complaining too much is he?
Inzi;...glad you are ok with it, and happy that you can have more time with Jane....but.... ...
Alice; glad you are feeling a bit better today I hope the weekend helps.
J20;Sorry you are down honey...I'm sure intensively caring for Shannons poor botty was wearing on top of everything else. I'd offer the spare room in rural[rainy] Rossendale but we've just started ripping out the bathroom (not that theres a lot to do here but walk the moors)perhaps when it is done (dont hold your breath though) you might come over for a weekend and see Alex and Anya?I hope you feel more positive soon and get a nice break with your gorgeous girls before long
My Lord and Master has awoken....here we go again...

Inzi - mixed feelings I suppose. Hope you're not too disappointed. Dal, I know what you mean - I hated being pregnant most of the time but I would love to be pg again - although there are a million reasons why that would be a rubbish idea at the moment! And Dal - glad you're feeling better - can't imagine dh is too upset .

Crochet - enjoy your hols tomorrow. And hurray for M's tooth!

Alice - big hugs. Go easy on yourself - it's going to be hard to adjust having had a few months at home. You'll get there though - everything will settle down and you'll enjoy both bits of your life. And dh sounds wonderful for helping out so much.

J2O - sorry you've been feeling a bit low and Shannon's not been well. Don't have any ideas really other than to cut one thing out of her diet at a time and see what makes her better. And well done to Shannon for being inventive and using people's legs.

Anya sat up in the bath on her own for ages last night - although can't get her to do it again today. Bit alarming though, she's got a hunch in her spine which should straighten when she starts walking, but it was really noticeable in the bath when she sat up and leaned forward and of course had no clothes on. Just felt a bit shocked by seeing it so prominently.

DH took Anya out for a couple of hours this morning - took the bus to Manchester. Anya was playing with dh's watch on the bus (watches are her favourite toys at the moment) and was chewing happily on the strap. Then this woman sat opposite them told dh that she didn't think it was a good idea for Anya to have the strap in her mouth and quite seriously said that if he wanted she had a chocolate biscuit that Anya could have instead!!! DH just told her that sugar and chocolate would do a 7 month old much more harm than a watch strap. But I mean, how stupid are some people, and the cheek !

Anyasmum at the stupid woman on the bus!!! Good on your dh for speaking up.

Dal great news that you're feeling so much better. About the age gap really I think there is no perfect one and different ones work well for different people. We have 20 months between our 2 and I can say that it has been fucking hard work at times but already we're beginning to see how great it will be watching them grow up and play together. So I'm really pleased we have had them so close together. Can't talk about a different age gap as I don't know but I'm sure one of the others can give you their perspective too!

Hello too to Floria and others...

Hope Choc is OK - not like her to be absnet although I know she sometimes only has short periods of free time so reads and catches up even if doesn't manage to post - hello honey if you're there!

Well off to spend some quality time with dh - I've been doing a lot of reading up on potty training as Sam is going on the potty a couple of times a day at his request so I think he's pretty much ready really! Been and bought cool big boy pants today and probably just need to get on with it really!!!

Oh and forgot to mention I went to see Sex and the City on Thurs!!! It was FANTASTIC!

Anyasmum; (((hugs))) try not to worry about Anyas spine..I'm sure the docs are right and it will straighten out when she starts walking.. though I'm sure it is easy for me to say when it isnt apparent to me because I'm not the one bathing her

bother..brother has arrived..got to go...again

Anyasmum - I know it's difficult not to be concerned by these things but as floria says, i'm sure the docs are right and it will correct itself. Have to say though, what a clever little girl for sitting in the bath! We have to hold on to Dylan for dear life cause he can't sit yet unaided and slithers all over like a snake! Oh, and Dylan loves watches at the moment too, just grabs them and chews them and stares at them. He's also developing a liking for the tv remote, oh dear, 18mo cousin loves the remote and is forever changing the settings on the tv, I fear we have this to come.
Alice - have fun with dh. Good luck with the potty training, wow big boys pants, it's hard to imagine Dylan in anything other than nappies right now, that all seems so far away but I bet it'll be here in the blink of an eye.
FLoria - thanks for the compliments on the photos, yes he definately does look like his daddy, also very like dh's bro too occasionally thats nothing to do with me though, just the genes playing their part!Have quite a few bf pics and I cherish them, was a very special time , definately a good idea to take some, they're so nice to look back on. About Alex self weaning, did you put a face cause you don't want him to or you'd like him to? Either way i'm sure it'll happen at a time thats right for both of you and whenever that is you have done absolutely brilliantly for getting this far
Well, i'm gonna go chill with dh for a bit, chat soon

Hi Dal
face about self weaning is because I really enjoy bf and love that mother and son time and to tell the truth it is almost the only time he behaves like a baby now...he is in such a hurry to grow up, he has been sitting pretty well since 5mths and totally unaided since 6mths, he's been cruising for a month now, can stand for ages just holding on with one hand (and without holding on to anything for several seconds at a time now) and is pretty close to walking (though he cant sit himself or pull himself up yet so there is still time to babyproof the house)...but now when he gets disturbed while bf (by dh or the dog just moving about) he wants to stop to see what is going on and frequently is too nosey to continue...I've been reading about self weaning and I have a horrible feeling he might do it for himself before I'm ready to give up...I suppose it would help if I didnt have a minimum of 12 months in mind...strange isnt it? In the beginning I just gave myself the target of just one more day and then 6 weeks ...and now I'll be upset if we dont make 12 months
Hope you had a nice evening with your dh.

Alice; well done Sam for asking for the potty..good luck with the training.
We are trying to get Alex to sign for the potty as the only dirty nappies we get now are when I havent anticipated his need soon enough(or when Daddy is in charge because he never recognises the signs)...still plenty of wet ones though so I guess we will be in nappies for a good while yet.

Hi everyone else.
I'm always wary of whinging about lack of sleep when I know how bad Choc has it (how is it going Choc has she let you have any more 2 hr stints recently? Dare I ask if she is showing signs of going even longer yet?)but Alex really has lost his sleep pattern since our holiday, often waking for 2 or 3 feeds a night again...last night he only woke me for one night feed but it was at 2.30 not his old 4am and then wanted bf and up at 5.15 instead of his old 6.30/7am....I fed him and bounced him in the Amby from 5.30 till 6.15 when he finally gave up and fell asleep but he got me up again at 7.15 so no lie in for me ...dh let me lie in yesterday but as he is off to Russia at 6am tomorrow and wont be back untill 10pm on Saturday I have to make that extra 2 hrs last a whole week.
One giggle Alex did give me this morning (apart from standing with is right foot on the left toe of his sleep suit and looking very frustrated when his left leg couldnt move)was when I was bouncing him in the Amby at 5.30 he started sort of singing and letting the bounce wobble his note...it sounded like someone sliding their finger up and down a cello string...sorry it doesnt translate well into wordsbut it was funny, honest.

Hi ladies! you chatter so much I struggle to find a chance to type. Mainly cos as you know only too well, DD doesn't sleep much...

Anyway, INZI! Wow. Perhaps best you're not pregnant this time if you weren't absolutely sure. My SIL has 14 months between her two - unplanned second child conceived while bf... - and they are gorgeous, and in some ways not really any more difficult than the gap Alice has with her two, albeit different, but what I HAVE noticed is that the younger seems to develop v fast and the older more slowly, so that they almost seem the same age, IYSWIM.

Anyasmum, well done to Anya for sitting up in the bath and sure the spine will self-correct... maybe through all that action...?!

Crochet, well done on losing weight and am of France. I love the idea of a French holiday with lots of red wine and cheese and melon. Yum yum.

Dal, glad you're feeling a bit more up - bet was all hormonal - suggest btw that you do a search on Designerbaby who used to come on this thread and whose baby was large born (over 9 lb) but has had real problems gaining and has dropped and caused her real anxiety and similar sense of depression to you.

Alice, hope you're doing okay - guess your sort of work can't just be flopped back into - bet you're getting there though. And at least you got to the cinema!

Floria, sorry about the sleep for you and I know exactly what you mean about Alex growing up. R has been sitting up for ages now too, has grown loads, seems so independent suddenly, and it makes me a bit sad as well as excited cos each new stage is so much more fulfilling than the last, yet I still miss the last...

My news... well having a bit of a crap time. Our house move might be off as our buyer has had a big fight with his mortgage company, who've been crap, and he called it all off on Weds than their head office apologised and he semi changed his mind... anyway tis sort of on for now but might easily go again tomorrow. We've come so far with it, spent a lot of money; I'm angry and upset. Sleep hasnt improved, it's still abysmal (no more than 45 mins at a time, plus large periods of wakefulness at a time) and I'm suddenly bone-weary and feeling sick with it - I had got used to it, and the stress over the house is somehow exacerbating it. However. A friend/colleague of mine is in a psychiatric unit with severe postnatal psychosis-was sectioned several weeks ago and showing no signs yet of being able to come out. Baby is with her, well in a nursery in same place, although she isnt well enough to care for him - they are trying to help her to bond with him and she is on heavy duty tablets. I keep thinking when I'm exhausted and miserable about the house that at least we're a happy bonded family, so we're okay, and psychologically I'm quite strong anyway, but I do feel worn out!

Can't think what else I had to say... oh yes, food's going v well now - she's hungry as can be!

Have a good Sunday all. I'm going to make DH take me for hot choc and cake and then we're seeing friends later.

Oh and J20 -- if we do move, and it's a big if at the mo given circs, you three are all welcome to come stay with us. Northeast England isnt that exciting but we can see Alice and her two little charmers and you might even be able to convince me to leave the house after 7 pm!!!

Oh Choc!!! I'm so sorry about your house news, it is dreadfully unfair! Having bought and sold houses both in England and Scotland I have to say that the Scottish system has a lot of plus points, as it does guarantee the sale once an offer has been accepted so no tiff with the bank or change of heart can stop it....I really hope that things do work out for you, moving house is one of the most stressful things you can do and coupled with sleep deprivation on the scale that you are suffering it is no wonder you are bone weary and feeling sick..((((BIG HUGS))))....you are an absolute wonderwoman to be coping as well as you do and still seeing the positive side of your life....I wish I could offer you a holiday too. Fingers crossed that your buyer stays on track and gets that contract signed soon.