March 2007-Today our babies will mostly be eating.............

[KITTYmaspudding]

ok, new thread, old one full!!

Foxy, just read your thread and I remember now, that I had a barney with her a year or so ago about c sections.
She was VERY aggressive and seemed to have a real bee in her bonnet about sections being the way to go . I thought she was quite loopy highly strung tbh. I see she hasn't changed

Aargh - it's taken me ages to find you and there's acres of pages to get through!

Now I've finally finished work for a couple of weeks, I hope to get back into the swing of things again

Elliot is at long last properly better, just in the last few days. He has just finished a course of antibiotics (warning - horrible poo for any of you new mums like me who've not had to suffer the effects!) and is back to his old self. But it really is his old self - I swear he's regressed and, being so ill for so long, he's effectively lost a month of development time so he's not even crawling yet, much less starting to walk. But he's really, really well. And although I'm a bit sad that he's lost so much time, seeing him happy and well again is just the best xmas present ever.

Hope you're all well too. Am shattered so off to bed but hope to catch up properly over the next few days when I will finally have some time!

Hello everyone

Just a quickie from me too. Am on sentry duty outside DD1's room waiting for her temp to come down. She's roasting up. DD2's eyes are so sticky she can't open them. She's in good spirits though.

Sorry to all who are struggling. Kitty, I have had my moments with DD1 and it is very hard. Big love to you. Fox, I have seen her around from time to time and she comes across as being a bit aggressive. Rosy, I have those dreams too and they make me very panicky. Big love to you both. Mossy, hope things are on the up with DH. Take care XXXX

Sazzy have texted you

Hello to everyone else. Hope you are all well and your babies are all GORGEOUS. Enjoy the weekend XXXX

hi folk hope you all ok, kitty i'm so sorry things are hard. i sympathise and though i can't empathise with not bonding with the baby i do know how hard it is with combined stresses tipping you over the edge.

you were a big support to me this time last year when things were going to shite for me. pls kno i'm thinking of u and hope things get better! i'm sure everything will settle down HOWEVER not feeling that mushy love for your little one is a cause for concern, what's your gp like? maybe anti-depressnants might help in the short term? it just might help you get head above water . . just a thought

i'm struggling right now too, keeping my head above water for the kids

i'm going to do a thread about it in health. been having bleeding between periods and am worried sick. so hard to keep cheerful for the children and i'm not feeling the xmas vibe at ALL

bethoo a word of advice if you're thinking of leaving your partner do it sooner rather than later, that way you have less of a loss of self-esteem and you'll be back on your feet all the faster. it sounds like he doesn't value you and you could do a lot better hope you're ok.

Dolly, lovely to have to pop round sorry your dd's are poorly, all our kiddies here are going through it atm (so are we!!) Hope that get better for xmas.

Trixa, thans for your kind words . Can you do a link to your thread?
I did a thing with ds1 this evening.
We assessed where he was on his 'happy' chart, which was at 'very happy' which was excellent news.

Then I told him to tell me something good about himself today, something that had happened, that he had done which was a good thing for him.

At first he said he couldn't. So I said "well I'm going to try and do this too." As I too find it very hard to think of praiseworthy things about myself or positives about the day in general. So I started and then ds1 found something to say, so I had another go and soon we were on a roll and both of us got a lot from doing that. I think it also helped him to see that I struggle with self esteem and that we can help each other.
Someone suggested checking my facial expressions towards Ronnie so I made sure I gave him lots of eye contact and smiles when he was alert and happy today. I got lovely big grins and noises back and excited bouncing.!! I love it when he smiles, he's got a huge mouth and when he really smiles it lights up his little face!

Dollypops _ Hi lovely to see you!!

sazzy - brilliant to hear E is on the mend now [higs] to you and him. R U seeing your lovely sister at Christmas?

Kitty - many thanks for your support it is much appreciated -

Dolly/Kitty - Ele is OK and quite witty but she can just be so oblivious to other people's feelings> I have seen other people at the receiving end, and many run-ins, but this is the first time its happened to me. I can stand my own but its a bit of a shock when I'm not even doing anything wrong and get attacked

Trixie - R U worried about your cervix with the bleeding? Try not to worry it could be anything. Please get it checked ASAP. My sister had pre cancerous cells 10 years ago and had them zapped and they have never returned. very high success rate. I'm sure its nothing - make an appointment with GP then try to forget it for next few days [big hugs]

Kitty will chcek your message on FB

i forgot to check in here yesterday

bethoo-ahem one doesn't need to go out to meet men,as i have said,i met dh when i was a single mum ofon a WAP chat site.and the three years i was a single parent after splitting with xh werent exactly quiet on the-erm-'adult' front either

kitty-you sound a bit more positive in your last post.i had to have a conversation with dd1 about self-harm the other day as she was telling me she likes pain as it makes her feel good!

thats a great idea about the chart.

i still have problems with ds1,i just don't like him very much and i struggle every day with it.i am still waiting for another appointment with the child psychologist.

fox-i officially am sticking to this thread where nobody is nasty as i cant cope with bitchiness atm.

trix-i saw the doctor last month about bleeding in between periods.she took a swab and i have 'bacterial vaginosis',which is just a mild,common infection that often causes irregular bleeding/spotting.so try not to worry

rosy-those dreams are horrible.i had one about ds2 once,i was crying for most of the next day.

i went shopping this evening and asda was packed,it was more like saturday afternoon.while i was out ds2 threw up in his bed(from coughing).dh sorted it and i came back to find ds2 being given a boxing lesson

Elsie is all bunged up again and wont drink her bottles.she still hasnt got anymore teeth.crappo.

hello to everyone else.

Snoo. parenting is a NIGHTMARE isn't it? You try so hard to do the right thing.
I'm realising that I'm having to adjust from ds1 being my little baby to accepting that he is growing up, he's 9 and soon will be a secondary school, but you see he's still my little first born baby.. Where does the time go? How come he's not a little boy anymore?
I feel sorry for first borns because the parents are always practising on them, I make all my mistakes on him, poor sod.

Have you always felt distant from ds1?

Foxy sorry if there is no message on fb I can't work the bloody thing

IT'S DD3'S 2nd BIRTHDAY TODAY!!!! where has the time gone?

Where are you all?
Stinking cold here, everything aches , snot pouring out of my nose, hopefully it'll be finished come christmas.

I want it to snow for christmas...

what do you think?

nah

Morning All

Kitty that convo with DS1 sounds very positive and a good idea. I might copy you and try that sometimes with DS1, who I give quite a hard time too 'cos he's so persistently naughty..

Snoo/Kitty - There seems to be a DS1 issue here anyway - my DS1 is just so continuously obnoxious to me and to DD

....Snoo I agree about the threads. I'm not in the mood for a row (well not atm anyway )

Guess what?

Monti was trying to grab my brekkie bowl so I put it on the nearest high surface which was up about 4 steps up, on the stairs> I went away and a moment later, heard him tinkering with it again.

I ran out and saw that he had climbed up the stairs to get to the bowl!!!

So all of a sudden the can climb stairs , which means we have to get another stairgate and watch him like a hawk now. Do not feel ready for this awkward stage at all

Foxy perhaps it is because they are our eldest and we are learning on them.
Every stage they go through is a first for us as mothers, then when the second child gets there we (sort of) know what to do.
Poor buggers

kitty-i think things became difficult after i split with his father when he was 3.i remember feeling all the mushy mummy love for him when he was a baby and that,but when i think back to when he was 3.5/4 things were getting difficult.all he ever did was whinge(just like his father).

i think the fact i grew up in an all-female household and had(have)no knowledge of boys is a problem as well.at least with dd1 and her hormonal outbursts i know how to handle it because i went through it myself.i keep thinking dh doesnt like ds2 because he seems to be harsh on him,but dh keeps calmly trying to tell me to butt out as he was an asbo case as a child and knows what he is doing.

anyway...HAPPY BIRTHDAY to kitty's dd3

they grow up way too fast.dd2 goes off upstairs to play with the older ones now and when they are playing in the front room(which i have converted from a pram park into a playroom)Elsie 'crawls' in there to play as well.
i seem to be spending my life picking bits up off the floor before Elsie sees them.i hid the bin behind the xmas tree but she still managed to get it

Sorry, been in and out and a bit busy.

Kitty sorry about things with your ds1 but at least you know now and can take steps (as you are doing). I don't know anything about self-harm in kids, although dh was a self harmer a few years back, however I think the approach I took with him would not work on a child at all.

All of you with crawling, creeping, stair climbing babies... what's up with Bertie then? He shows no interest in crawling although with help can get up on furniture and cruise around a bit. He's currently sitting in his high chair throwing fruit around as his little tummy is now full (milk, & steamed veg). And all the lengths I went to to wash, scrub and peel said fruit... ah well.

Rosy it's horrible when you have a nasty dream, takes you a while to get over it even when it's not real.

Foxy sorry to hear you had a bit of an MN row.

No one seems to be having a particularly easy ride of it atm. Although Sazzy I'm so glad to hear that E is better.

Right I have to go and let the dogs and cat eat all the leftover food clean up after Bertie.

Happy birthday to Kitty's DD3

And mossy, tilly barely moves. I blame the wooden floor as she can't get a grip (apart from on the dirt ) but lots aren't moving now.... we can't help it that our friends' babies are so mobile

Ah, thanks for dd3's birthday wishes, her little face was such a picture when she saw her cake and when we were singing to her.
Bit warmer today, thank heavens

happy birthday Kitty's dd3

my ds3 will be 2 on the 3rd of jan

Happy birthday Kitty's dd3.

just found this on another forum,thought i'd share:

'?The FDA this week approved the first ever transdermal patch for the treatment of depression. Simply remove the backing and press the patch firmly over your mother's mouth.? '

mossy-it has come as a shock Elsie being mobile this early on,apart from ds1 all my others didnt even roll over till 9 months.

although,if Bertie is cruising a little maybe he will miss out the crawling stage and go sraight to walking

PMSL Snoo!!! Sometimes we all feel like sellotaping our mother's mouths shut don't we?

Happy Birthday Minikits

mossy, my ds doesn't crawl either, he just tries to stand all the time my baby...

kitty, your dd's birthday party sounds nice

am so fed up as have not had flash of what to do re my sister. am so cross with her letter and dh says its up to me but he wants nothing to do with her. its just that i know i will have to pretend her lies are truth if we make up which i feel v uncomfortable about. i really dislike her for putting me in this position. sorry to harp on but it keeps me awake at night i don;t want to bother people with it iykwim

Sponge I'm glad I am not the only one kept awake at night when things are troubling!!

You don't have to make up do you? I mean, you don't have to respond to her letter? Can you just carry on ignoring her? I didn't speak to one of my sisters for 2 years, after she did something terrible. I just let her stew until I felt I had punished her enough. I know that sounds awful, but its up to you whether you let her into your life again isn't it?

You have your own family now. I guess you'll get to a point at some time in the future when you do feel ready to let her in again.

Are you likely to see her at Christmas?

hi foxy, no am on own for christmas (dh working) and family live too far away. i have to decide if i give the present back. i just feel tired of making an effort- she has visted me twice in 20 years- its always been me that makes the effort even though she doesn't work. she did come after i had ds but scowled at the wall at me bf and made me feel like crap. it seems such a waste of my calling and visiting all those years.

thanks -god am doing my own head in, sorry as have hi jacked this thread but don;t want my head kicked in if i start another..