August 2007 - milk, mash or puree - take your pick and take cover!

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James - sorry, couldn't wait any longer... hope my link works...

That's good news Hersetta. Hope it continues. Ds slept from 8:30 til 6:30 and, for the first time this week, didn't even wake up in the night for his dummy. I managed to get to bed on time at 10pm only for dd to wake up at 11 so dh went to sleep on the sofa so dd could come in with me. My dd is like lizzies - she doesn't sleep well at night if she hasn't slept in the day. When she gets overtired she will just scream and have major tantrums.

Going to dinner with fil and his partner tomorrow. Dh forgot his dad's birthday (despite me reminding him half a dozen times) and sil told me he was upset about it. Might have to look out for a nice salad as we're going to GBK and I don't think I could have one of their burgers without going well over my weight watchers points limit. Then got a busy sunday. Got a xmas party with my NCT friends at 11 and then dd's got a birthday party at 2.

Hi folks,

I can't quite believe it, after quite a few days of messing about, J slept through til 8.30am. He did wake up at 2ish but I just brought him in bed with me and he didn't need a feed (learning to wait and see now rather than shove a bottle in his mouth as soon as he makes a peep!)

I think he's getting into the habit of waking now just to get in my bed though, so I'll try just giving him a snuggle then popping him back in his cot. But it's so hard when they're all warm and soft and sleepy!

Mamamila, sounds like you have a strong willed girl on your hands there. Have you got one of those take battery operated swings or could you get one? If she likes being rocked it might just work...

Meeting friends for a coffee and maybe a bit of shopping today, back later! x

well done baby James !!!

as for your two troublesome daytime sleepers, I'm all out of sensible ideas... Evie just stuffs her thumb (and sometimes whole fist) in her mouth and sorts herself out most of the time.

Rigt, must unpack the shopping and eat before madame wakes up again.

Good for you James. Ds has days sometimes when he won't nap more than 20 minutes at a time and other days he will have a couple of 2 hour sleeps. Don't really know how to increase the short naps though.

I'm really struggling this afternoon as I've got a really bad headache. It's not much fun having to stare at a computer screen and the light above my desk that I fought to have turned off before I went on mat leave is back on again . It's really bright and gets right in my eyes. I didn't bring any Anadin Xtra with me . It works wonders when paracetamol isn't helping.

Just got back from our jabs too - Caitlin was a star and didn't even cry. I think I was more upset than she was. Now sitting happily on Daddy's lap cooing at Thomas the Tank engine.

Anyone else had problems with babies rejecting bottles? DS2 has become very opinionated in the last week and screams at the first taste of a bottle. He was happy to have one (well not happy but would take) last thing at night but will not even have a taste for the last 2 nights?

Kids are killing each other better go.........

Erm, no we aren't trying for tasha's record of 3 under 5's, I have no idea how you are still alive and kicking. No, I have some ovulation tests from when we were trying for dd. Didn't want to get rid of them til now, a tad superstitious but hey, now we got a little girly frothing and dribbling for england I dont give a toss when I'm ovulating. Hence, want rid but would rather not just bin them.

Anyhow, Loler, we had big trauma with ds not taking a bottle cos we only gave him one every few days then stopped for a couple of weeks, then he was having none of it. Tried going a whole day with him screaming on and off til I caved in and whipped out the boob. Then tried again a few weeks later (well my mum did it) and he took it no problem. Never had any worries after then. So I reckon try, give it a rest, try again.

Sounds like we all get our fair share of ups and downs with lo's sleeping, not sleeping, feeding or not, napping or not, teething or not. In the dark hours I mutter my mantra, all this will pass. Sometimes helps. Then feel overwhelming bittersweet of them growing so fast.

Thanks stig. Will keep giving it a go but not get to up tight about whipping the boob out!

Having had a glass of wine have just got all teary about the last line of your message! Just loving every minute of my smilie laughing budda baby - will read this tomorrow and not remember writing it! Keep whispering in his ear that he's my favourite and not to grow up! Just mean he is the easiest at the moment!

Hi ladies, had a great couple of days, someone ( on this thread i think) _ Thank you - you know who you are!!! had nominated me for the secret santa - mumsnet appeal - got 2 lovely parcels today, it made me cry to think that people are that kind, really lifted me up and made my weekend!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/2652/433007?stamp=071201083613

hi everyone, im just sitting in bed watchng shrek the third (think ds2 is waking) sorry to hear you had a bad day at work yesterday gill, james sorry you were having a hard time but good to hear about sleep, ive forgotten what its like. stig its actually worse than that ds1 only turned 3 at the end of september so when lo was born it was 3 under 3 lol, nuts. loler i found it really hard to get ds2 onto bottles he just used to refuse it which made me feel like shite but he got there in the end just keep offering it.
lo is asleep at the minute, ds2 has went back over. ds2 wont leave the christmas tree alone he thinks the baubbles are balls, so they end up getting kicked about the livingroom!! dp is away to the bar so home alone

I asked dp to have James for a bit this morning as I didn't get to sleep til almost 4am and was up at 8.30 with J, he had him for exactly half an hour before James is screaming like he's being murdered and dp is muttering "shut up!" at him rattily.

So I come downstairs and he's got him on the changing mat in a cold room, stripped naked because he's done an explosive poo, he's covered in goosepimples and then I see dp has him lying on a couple of wetwipes- I suppose in case poo gets on the wipe clean changing mat Honestly it's like he has no empathy at all, idiot. So of course I end up taking over, as usual.

This mornings shenanigans happened because dp was trying to watch back to back reruns of scrapheap challenge and eat his own breakfast before changing or feeding baby. He obviously is still putting himself first in the pecking order, which as we all know doesn't quite work. The only thing I do before seeing to James in the morning is go to the loo, and that's only because my bladder ain't what it used to be!

The thing is, I hardly ever leave J with dp now because he has so little patience and waits for me to administer orders on what he should do with him (for example he'll have him sat on his knee forever more while they both get fed up and ratty, until I suggest he puts him in his bouncy chair and show him some toys) as if to say "he's your baby, you should really be doing this"

I have no idea what's going to happen when I go back to work, if I can'tleave him for 30 minutes with his own father. I'm so depressed about the thought of going back to work. I can't bear it, I have to find a way to stay home.

aww poor you james, honestly your not alone, men are useless! but atleast i dont have the worry of work, would it work out beter if you done part time for a while? when do you go back?

how often does everyone give baby water, is this really important?

I never give James water, I think he gets enough fluids in his formula, I'd only give extra water in hot weather or if he seemed dehydrated for any reasons (say sickness and diarrhea etc)

Having said that, I did give him a bit of baby pear juice yesterday because I wanted to try him with a sippy cup. He wasn't keen on the cup but the juice went down well!

was just wandering because you know the hole in the top of a babys head, well he still has that and its slightly indented does this mean dehydrated

hi folks. tried to catch up but not sure if i have properly.

tasha - think its hard to say without seeing it (not that i know particularly anyway) but as far as i know, an indented fontanelle can mean dehydration. dont see why you shouldnt give some cooled boiled water (that everyone over about 50 is so keen on) just in case.

pink - that sounds like you got a lovely surprise.

james -sorry to hear about how useless your dp is being. just hope he realises soon how much he will miss out on if he doesnt get properly involved by putting the baby to the top of his priority list.

went and bought a bumbo chair today from ebay so should get it in a couple of days. really hope ds likes it, but i suspect he will.

he finally slept for 6 hours in a row last night - yippee. just not getting too excited as i doubt he will do it again tonight.

tanks conk ill give it a go its just he chokes on everything but his milk so not really looking forward to it

he loved the water!! i put it in one of them wee droppers you get with infacol and he licked at it like a little hampster and was smiling while he was drinking bless.

thats great tasha - certainly wont do him any harm, so can only really do good if he's thirsty - has his fontanelle come back out?

ds is lying on his change mat - nappy off (always one of his happiest parts of the day) with his eyes glued to Long Way Down on bbc2 - bad parents we are.

aaw bless him! I've heard that an indented fontanelle can mean dehydration- is he feeding ok at the moment or is he still having trouble?

Just uploaded a couple of pics of James at four months. He's such a little pudding now!

Fascinated by mummy's tshirt, as usual

In his pyjamas, ready for bed

Cheeky chap

James I love those pj's. Can i be cheeky and ask where you got them from.

We all have cold here except dh. It must be because he's at work all day. All i have had this week is dd1 (3.10years) yelling "mummy i got bogey, it is ok i've eaten some" as she dose an impression of a cow She is so charming, and the dd2 making herself jump every time she sneezes.

Now i've got it. I am hoping it goes before christmas.

I think they're from mothercare- Humphrey's Corner (I didn't buy them, they were a gift) I love traditional pyjamas, they're so cute!

Sorry to hear about your colds, it's no fun when the lo's have them too.

lizziemum - i can sympathise i'm choked too again! it's only been 2 weeks since i've had the last one.

james - hope your DP starts changing soon. could you do your drawing full time instead of going to work?

tasha - how's your wee one? my 2 have so much hair that i've never seen if their fontanelle are indented.

pink - that must have been a lovely surprise for you.

I've finally found something that scares DD1 - SANTA!! I took her the 'big garden centre' yesterday - for some reason she loves going there and santa was walking round, she ran over to him, he said 'hello' and she screamed hysterically all the way back to me. poor wee thing, says she wants Mrs Santa to bring her presents and not Mr Santa

i think DD2 could be teething too - don't know if it's my imagination but i think i can feel something on her bottom gum - loads of drool, pink cheeks, chewing on anything, up more during the night - she loves the dentinox gel.

Tash - I thought that when fontanelles are indented that it meant dehydration but ds2s is always like that and he's definately not dehydrated so I guess that some baby's are just like that.

Thought I'd finished christmas shopping until DH last night said he wanted something - I thought we'd agreed that we weren't doing them for each other. So trying to find something that isn't tat, doesn't take much room and doesn't need feeding! Seem to have left it too late for personalised stuff too.

DS2 took a bottle last night no screaming and only gagged once! He only took 4oz which is really good for him but looks poor compared with everyone else.

Banana - James is a real cutie - don't think you need to worry about him looking too big for his age - he looks perfect to me.

lo is grand his fontanelle has come back to normal, have a bit of a cold myself but lucky enough the kids dont yet. james is soo cute and he looks a perfect size to me too. and that reminds me i need to get some pics on of lo, ill do it tonight. better go tidying.