August 2007 - milk, mash or puree - take your pick and take cover!

[shrinkingsagpuss]

James - sorry, couldn't wait any longer... hope my link works...

GillL sorry your LO was poorly - hope she's on the mend. I can't imagine being back at work -I can only just wrench myself out of bed in th emornings to get |DS off to nursery. The idea of work scares me rigid!! My nursery only opens at 7.30, and I am supposed to be in by 8 - 15 very slow miles away! Not a hope with 2!!

I got DD weighed today for the first time since her 6 week check!! She is only 14lb 14 oz - which amazed me (14 and a bit weeks) - DS was 18lb at the same age!!!! She's dropped a whole centile from last time. She's still a chunk, so the HV wasn't worried, but suggested I come back in a month to check she's not still dropping. I thought she was o much bigger!!

I know it sounds silly, as iknow thye are very different babies, but I'm so shocked!!! mad really.

Sorry you DP is still being an arse James. Mine isn't the greatest of help, but he is atleast sensible enough to be responsible for his own alarm. He also does get up to DS in the night if he wakes - but I have to poke DH and wake him up first, so really I might as well go myself!!

yeh thats wat i do although i shouldnt but im not really up for going through that just yet, i had ds1 off bottles by the time he was 1 cant remember how i done it though

Tasha, I'm not surprised you sleep through the alarms now... I'd probably sleep through a bomb going off after looking after three lo's all day! Unfortunately I wake up when a gnat farts so there's no chance of me sleeping through three alarms and a radio. bah!

Does your ds2 feed himself a bottle or do you have to feed him as well as ds3?

Gill, glad your dd is feeling better, it's horrible when they're not well. I know what you mean about not celebrating new year, I barely drink these days so what's the point? I'm not putting the tree up til perhaps the 12th or even later, I still can't seem to get in the mood for christmas, I feel like it's still september.

he feeds himself now although when lo got out of hosp he went through a stage where he wanted me to do it, think he was just feeling a bit left out.

God don't talk about going back to work, I'm dreading it.

Sagpuss, you said your ds was 18lb at this age, did he stay big or did it even out as he got taller? Reason why I'm asking is that people keep referring to James as a big boy, and asking "is he 6 months?" and "oh, he obviously likes his food" and he's 16lb. I have to admit the comments have been worrying me slightly. Personally I think he looks normal although he has got a pot belly. He's only on 6 bottles of 7oz first milk a day, it's hardly excessive.

Sorry about all the posts today!

we're just come back from 3rd lot of injections (she screamed the place down) poor wee thing.

she is now 18lb 15oz and 66 cm long - off the charts again with her weight! think i'm going to have to change my name to 'my2BIGgirls'.

i'm dreading going back to work too - but i've decided it won't be till april at the earliest - though that's when the SMP stops so will really need to be then.

off out with the 2 of them whilst the sun is out.

Thanks sagpuss. Work isn't too bad. I'd be a zombie if ds was still waking for a night feed and dh would have to take turns with me each night. Fortunately that's not an issue. It's not as hard being away from the dcs as I thought it would be (I sound really mean) but I do wish we could have afforded for me to stay home for the full 9 months. Hopefully we'll be in a better financial position next time. I am really looking forward to the weekend though - despite having the take dd to 2 parties on Sunday - so much for a rest!

My dd was 15lb 2oz at 28 weeks and she was full term and perfectly healthy. She was about the size ds is now. At this age she had only just gone into 0-3 clothes and they were massive on her. She is still very petite. My nephew is 7 months and is just over 18lb.

I have no idea what ds weighs, was going to get him weighed on Tuesday but doctors have stopped running the baby clinic due to lack of staff so nearest one HAVE to drive into town for and pay for parking!!!!

As for xmas and new year im sooo looking forward to it, am putting tree up next weekend as we are busy all the weekends after this, and new year we are having friends round and doing a 60's party full with outfits, and even better in laws gave offered to have children so dont have o worry about how much noise we make! so looking forward to it as was pg last year and bleeding so wasn't able to drink or enjoying being pg as we didn't know if it would stick ! (he is now snoring loudly on the sofa! )

James, DS is broad and tall - like his father. he was a very big baby, and very chunky as a babe. Once he got on the move he has gradually slimmed down, and now he's nearly 3 - he has been wearing the same clothes for nearly 1.5 yrs!! He is finally growing too tall for the trousers and a bit big for t shirts!!

Pink - yes, we trekked over to Foster Street today for the HV clinic. Its ok if you get there early, and there is parking on the street that you don't have to pay for. I find though that having 4 HV's in the same room, weighing lots of babies is very inpersonal, and you can't really have a conversation about how you are.

Interesting, having said to the GP at my 6 week check how miz I was feeling, a HV rang the same day. I haven't seen one since, and for all they know, I could be seriously depressed.

im wondering whether my LO needs to be weaned..is waking every hour at night to feed and won t settle well.. been giving hima sma white..hungry baby formula as a top up at night to help him sleep better..pah says baby..and wakes up an hour later after drinking 7 oz of it only to guzzle a feed off me ,fall asleep and wake every hour for the rest of the night..basically can t fill him up..hes 13weeks but then add on another 3 weeks as that was how late he was so really hes 16 weeks and about 18 lbs..yes hes big but not fat only big boned.. he `s also very windy and uncomfortable and have worked our way through all the milks but none sem to be any better and his excema is getting worse by the day and thinking about putting him on goats milk like i did with my first son..helped enormously.. what does everyone else think..goats milk..weaning or hold off the weaning as he obviously is affected by milk or things in my milk..

Bambi - its a minefield - but i will be starting DD at 16 weeks without fail, very carefully, and v slowly. go for soya products, or goats milk if you are worried, and low allergen things like rice, apple and pear. Easy to digest and gentle on the tummy.

Sounds like fun pink! Just what you need.

My dd is like that sagpuss. She is wearing clothes now that fit her last winter. I have put her clothes from this summer in a separate box cos I know most of them will fit her next summer.

bambi - sounds like you're having a nightmare at the moment. Why not try a bit of rice and see how it goes.

Gill,

Caitlin went to bed at 8.45 and slept through till 6.45. A little earlier than usual but then she went to bed earlier than usual as well. She had a 7oz bottle and then went back to sleeep for a hour.

She has asked for food after 3 hours on two feeds today so hopefully we'll get 5 in total in her today.

She's now up to 13lb 13oz at 12.5 weeks and is still above the 75th centile so she's growing well.

Jabs tomorrow - I've warned her they will hurt!

is it bad manners to say I hate you for having a sleeping baby?

DD slept from 10.30 til 2.45, when I gave up trying to ignore her grumbling. then she woke up at 6 and wouldn't settle, so she had a snuggle. then DS woke up. sleep? nahhhhh thta is for the weak.

oops, she's telling she's bored of lying on her quilt staring at a toy octopus.

I know - sorry sagpuss. She's been like that since 4 weeks as well. We been going to a parenting class on mondays with a different subject each week like baby ailments, weaning, play and development etc. This week's topic was sleeping well and we had to introduce ourselves and our babies and say what their sleeping patterns were. The other dozen mums were slightly jealous as well!

I must admit she pretty much is the perfect baby - sleeps well and hardly ever cries. If we could clone her and sell them off we'd make a shedload of cash I reckon!

Hersetta, my Caitlin's not behaving like yours at night, feel lucky if she only wakes once, usually twice or more. However, is smiley and happy to be alive so aaaaaahhhh, its not so bad.

Anyone on this thread daft enough to be trying for another already, Ive got some ovulation tests going for the price of postage at the following thread: free ovulation tests.

Wow, thats my first link, I did it.

hiya all,

well we did our epic vaccination run yesterday, 2 jabs, 1 in each leg. Mila woke at 4am absolutely boiling hot and with a really snotty nose, so glad i bought a stock of karvol. Been doping her up on calpol and she's slept a lot today. 3 and half hours in the sling.

she sleeps pretty well 8pm - 4am, then only wakes up long enough for me to bring her into bed and pop a boob in her mouth then she sleeps till 7 or 8 or even 9.30 today! The only problem with this baby is that she hasn't learned to fall asleep alone. We started rocking her to sleep when she used to have her evening scream and we're kind of stuck with it. It's not really a problem yet but if she opens even half an eye for a split second in bed there's no way she'll settle herself.

In the morning she falls asleep in my arms after feed and will sleep 30 - 45 mins then has a 2 - 3 hour nap in the afternoon and another short one sometimes late afternoon.

She seems a real lightweight compared to other babies, she's 5.4 kg (12 lb)at nearly 15 weeks and 60cm. She's dropped on chart to 25th percentile but she looks pretty healthy. She has plenty of wet nappies but still only 1 or 2 poos a week.

No idea how much I weigh but still feeling pretty heavy and I reckon still months away from wearing my 25 waist jeans again!

Hey you Mamamila, was the journey any easier this time? Or did it seem better/worse coz you'd already done it once?

Mila is soooo cute.

This sleeping lark is strange. DS used to wake once a night at the same time roughly, and then gradually got later and later til he gave u at about 20 weeks and slept through. Evie doesn't seem to be able to make up her mind. Mostly I don't think she needs the milk in the night, as, like Caitlin, she doesn't feed well in the morning - just doesn't seem interested - but once she's woken up it is the only way to get her back to sleep.

I'm sure you really don't want to be told this but......,gets ready to duck..... it is worth cracking the sleeping thing now while she is small. Have you tried rocking her till she's jsut sleepy, then lying with her in your arms and gradually withdrawing, shhhhhhh her the whole time. Gradually you "should' be able to reduce the movement, and keep the sshhhhing. It'll take a while, but it is worth it. I vowed we would sort Evie out early and it is worth every screaming moment now that I can put her down 80% of the time wide awake and grinning, and she settles herself.

Now I just need to re train Billy to stay in bed after 6 am - it doesn't help that he always seems to wake needing a poo!!!

Hi, James only just going to sleep as we speak despite bath and bottle at 7.30pm, he's spent the last hour crying and is now dosed up with calpol, ashton and parsons (found 'em at last) and dentinox gel.

His naps are now rubbish- he has 10 or 15 min two or at best three times a day, I can't get anything done during the day and he's really cranky at night. How can I make him nap for longer?

Ooh stig you're trying again already? very best of luck, you're braver than me, dp would kill me!

erm.... Stig is a nnutter. Can't think of anything worse than being pg again... mind you got 2 now enough for me!!

as for longer sleeps...hmmmm does he scream the place down? Carry him round in a sling for a few days to get him in the habit of sleeping longer, and he will be less cranky, then he won't be over tired and you will find it easier to settle him without the sling. Does that make sense?

Banana

Does he sleep in his buggy/pram could you walk around with him to get him to sleep during the day.

I found with Lizzie if she didn't get enough sleep during the day she didn't sleep well at night. Even now if she is overtired she doesn't sleep well. Lexie takes after her dad and can sleep (and Fart ) for hours.

Nah he doesn't like going in a sling at all for some reason. He does sleep in the pushchair but I still wouldn't be able to get any housework done while he slept. Gahhh a few weeks ago he used to sleep for two or three hours at a stint! Not fair...

Hi everyone,

shrinking- I agree, it's best to crack the sleeping now. only problem is that if mila is put down even slightly concious she'll go into 'crazy eyes' mode, madly searching for anything to look at and kick herself into a frenzy and basically rev herself into a crying fit.

everytime i drive into town she cries most of the return journey, full on car alarm siren screaming, she'll scream until choking/vomiting. I'll be trying to stop and calm/feed her and she'll have none of it so i end up driving and she'll eventually sleep.

i have tried to leave her to settle and even cry it out in her bed, which is horrible but I've given up after 20 - 30 mins. It's not really possible here either because people don't leave babies to scream.

I'll try the gradual withdrawal, although I have tried feeding her in bed and then lying next to her but she won't let herself fall asleep she fights it until I pick her up.

Ay yi yi, I'll keep you posted

good luck stig! I can't say we're trying.. would need more bedroom action for that to be possible. But I can never find my mini pills and keep forgetting to buy condoms. so..