April 2007 - If you go down to the chemist today .........................

[JoMa]

you're sure of an outburst from kneehigh

Yeah well this one's vegetarian!

I'll still be here, maybe only at weekends though .

OK so one of those bridging loan things?

still requires getting credit and i can't. saw the credit union, they can't do it for enough money. pleaded with tax credits, no joy. told agency i amy have to leave the job, my lovely consultant is gonna call the company they placed me with on monday and see if the can help at all as they were overly keen to employ me.

Yeh an advance good idea.

Cor all this practical thinking at this time of night is not good for me, head spinning!

Might treat myself to another 37 cals Belgian Choc Options hot chocolate.

calories, what are they?

OK for some skinny pants.

Or should I say its ok for those who eat large pieces of chocolate cake for their breakfast .

chocolate cake is the ideal breakfast food. it tastes nice, ths making the fact that i had to get my arse out of bed infinitely more bearable

Goodnight everyone, just tucked T back up after feeding him to get rid of the nasty scary spider dreams

yours or his katy?

Witty as ever joma!

Katy hate to shatter the illusion but they don't have dreams for about another 2 years -well at least not ones they can share with you anyway.

Thats it for me too, hot choc and bed, lets see if T repeats his one off 12 hours as per last night! Think ds1 has just fallen out of bed.

NIGHT GIRLS X

Katy, glad to see you being away from mumsnet doesn't seem to have lasted long.

JoMa, terrible news that you might have to leave the job that you like so much because of money for nursery fees. Also that you have all these other priority debts. It's so unfair that as a person who so wants to work and support her kids, you should be put in such a difficult position. I don't suppose any of the schemes that were meant to help get women back into work can help? Failing that, crossing my fingers for you that your employer can help somehow or that something's sorted out.

Actually, this thread seems to have stayed much livelier than some of the others neighbouring it - May 2007 is pretty quiet already.

Cambridge was fun, a bit of shopping, more browsing. Think generally it worked better than the first time we took D to meet dp's mum. Now I'm going to bed. Glad tomorrow is Saturday, I don't have to worry about getting up so Mike can go off to work.

Morning!
No-one had any nasty spidery dreams I'm pleased to report!

eyes on stalks I tell you

Morning.

JoMa, I am really sorry that things are pants for you atm. There must be some way around this surely. As Elkie says, they cannot possibly ignore the fact that you are keen to work and support your children. Have you spoken to the CAB? As for staying in touch, I will not stop coming on MN. I find it a total lifeline and just love you ladies - [soppy emoticon].

Elkie, glad you had a good day in Cambridge.

Pinions, I just love my job. I am the Pesonnel Manager for an organisation that is part charity/part profit making, in a rough part of Southampton. I just find it very satisfying and very challenging. I work 3 days a week which is a lovely balance. I also really like the people I work with - down to earth, no bs.

Katy, glad you are still lurking.

Big wave to everyone else.

Plan to go and stay with bil in Bristol today. If I am totally honest, I am not that keen . Can't face the car journey, although it is only 2 hours. I just know the traffic is going to be pants. Also, having thought I felt a bit better last night, don't! I expect dh will be furious with me if I don't go.

Morning - lovely sunny day here again . Have no plans whatsoever for the day, apart from filling up the paddling pool and doing such exciting jobs as the laundry. And trying to prevent Emily from squirting said laundry with water from said paddling pool .

Joma - what a shitty situation. It seems utterly crazy that you may be forced to give up a job that you're enjoying. You want to work, you are able to work, yet you might be forced to give up; that just stinks. I really hope you are able to get something sorted with a cash advance or something to get the nursery fees covered. And I'm sorry things have turned sour with J's grandparents - you were doing OK with them before, weren't you?

And I'm sure this PN group will keep going .

SOL - sorry you're still feeling pants. I don't blame you for not wanting to go to Bristol today. The weather's far too good to be sitting in a car, particularly if you're not feeling well. I know if it was me I'd be coiled up in a resentful grumpy mood all day, and would have to get pissed to make me feel better (I'm assuming there'll be some alcohol at BIL's?).

Pinions - I'm going back to work in January. I was desperate to go back after having Emily (I think that was the PND talking), but this time it going to be really hard to drag myself back, and I know I'm going to be really sad on 7th Jan 2008. Do you think going back to work could trigger PND this time?

Morning! Ok so this morning I decided to try and express after all that talk the other day.. 1oz after 30mins. Woohoo! Nothing like the 4ozs I was getting in 15mins before.. but think I might try and get back in the habit of just doing a wee 10mins after each feed. Ugh that sounds like a lot. Maybe a couple of times a day .

The problem I have is that I had about 8 meals´worth in the freezer and then quite a few times I left N with my Mum and had to leave a bottle ´just in case´. Then I would come home and he hadn´t eaten, but the milk was defrosted and ended up being chucked It was so depressing to see effort being poured down the drain that I just stopped. Now I reckon any milk I save will be for when I know he will definitely need a meal while I´m not around, otherwise for the ´just in case´ meals I´m going to leave my mum with formula for him. I told her this yesterday and she gave me such a look!! Really kind of ´REALLY??!´ and said ´he´ll get constipated, you know´. ! I couldn´t believe she would make me feel bad about it, I didn´t think there´d be anything wrong with doing that?

Joma, that is a crappy situation you are facing and I really hope you find a workable solution, I´m sorry things have gone downhill with Justin´s parents, I also hope it sorts itself out as they seemed so much on your side before?

I´m kind of looking forward to going back to work. It´s not til October so a good 2 months left and I know it will be hard to leave N at first but I think it will do me good to get out of the house and have some non-baby-time. And we are hoping dh can drop his hours so essentially I´d end up seeing more of him than I do now, which is fab! we can dream...

Have fun with the laundry emmymummy - I had a mammoth day of it yesterday, feel so sad when I look outside and think ´what a GREAT laundry day!´ Today dh is taking N to his mum´s for a couple of hours (aaargh, with formula or real milk?? what to do what to do) so I´m FREEEEEEEEE.. going to the pool with my wee sis though in all honesty I´ll probably melt after about half an hour and slowly dribble home to lie on the sofa in the dark then tonight mum is looking after N so dh, sis and me can go out for a couple of drinks. Yay!

SOL - hope you feel better and that the trip to BIL isn´t too bad x

"I left N with my Mum and had to leave a bottle ´just in case´. Then I would come home and he hadn´t eaten, but the milk was defrosted and ended up being chucked It was so depressing to see effort being poured down the drain that I just stopped. "

Maveta that is EXACTLY what I worry about when leaving T with other people (well in amongst all the other stuff). All that hard work down the drain, plus you've used up one of your valuable freezer supplies Usually I get DH to feed him anyway, but then I have to express which takes a lot longer than feeding him myself, so it doesn't really help.
I ended up getting about 2 or 3 oz yesterday, it took me all day, at least I've got the bags now so I can put them all together.

emmymummy, I don't know about going back to work triggering PND. I suppose now you'll be on the lookout, and won't let it go untreated?

I've also considered leaving formula - say if I leave him for 4 hours he should only need one feed if I feed him before I go, so 1 full feed, one of my little bags with an oz or 2 in and then a carton of formula for if it's necessary.

Hi again. I am so utterly pissed off.

Let me see. I have had a shitty cold for 10 days, and my psoriasis is the worst it has been for 30 years. Somthing tells me I am tired and stressed. Dh says I should ask for help. Fine. I am saying I don't want to go to bil's as I cannot face the hassle of packing the entire house up to travel for 2 hours in the heat, just for the sake of a 1 night stay. And all 4 of us sharing a room, where I imagine will result in little sleep.

Ikiabu, but I DO NOT WANT TO GO!

Dh and I are also not getting on that well, and I don't fancy paying happy families.

SOL is there a particular reason you're meant to go? You're right it sounds awful and the last thing you need now. If there's something happening, can you send DH on his own, or with B? You are tired, ill and stressed (and I know psoriasis gets worse when you're stressed, it's a good indicator, and it sounds as though yours is a lot worse than mine to begin with).

You're not being unreasonable. You know when you're about to have a baby and everyone tells you to take it easy, not to over exert yourself, not to go to ocassions you'll find stressful?? Well this is one of those times!!
Journey + cramped living conditions + feeling ill = hell! Plus if the rest of your family haven't already had your cold you can guarantee they will do by the time you're back!

That´s what I reckon Katy - like today dh is taking him to his mum´s but only for about 3 hours so I´ll feed him before he goes and then chances are he won´t need fed again but ´JUST IN CASE´ I´ll send him off with formula. Then tonight I´ll leave breastmilk with my mum so she can feed him his last feed and formula as back up in case he wakes and nothing else will settle him.

I did the opposite of you, I did think about feeding him the ebm but then I´d be double the time expressing while dh was feeding him so it just seemed like false economy.

Blah.

SOL I agree with Katy - I don´t think YABU at all. Try and stand your ground, there´s no point going if you are going to feel miserable anyway as everyone will end up feeling it. Might be good if dh took B and you could have some quiet time with K? Or could you go to your parents´ house? I don´t know how far away they are but you always seem to enjoy being there

Either way, hope you reach a happy solution for everyone and you get a quiet weekend to recoup some energy x