AUGUST 06 BABIES - 4 MONTHS ON...

[sarahSILVERbells]

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pink ive missed you your mums is a cow how can she not see sarah is ill and in the middle of a diagnosis sorry but wat a god awful woman and good on you for sticking to your guns have faith in yourself

eeny your friends dh is a twat and ignore him alex is a precious little thing and dont you dare get on edge about him ever he's your baby and all babies cry its the only way they can communicate

bhm personally i dont agree with bouncers bad for back encourages arching and encourages children to use theyre tiptoes and can cause short muscles in toes and calfs just a word of warning bt so agree they are cute

ive had a boring day got work tomorrow my mum has let me down re c hild care on friday so pretty pissed off

but otherwise had an okish day cant wait to go to work tho

hi girlies and a happy new year to you all. Havent had chance to read through and catch up yet but missed you all loads and hope everyone is well. I had a great xmas and new year my mum got the all clear xmas week thankyou for all your support. My eldest has been home for xmas with her friend so life has been busy busy busy as always. I overslept this morning on the first day back at school Sophie-jane is still an angel and sleeps through most nights now she had her second injection on tuesday and so far seems fine she has grown loads I will try and post some pictures of her soon luv to you all xx

Oh Pink dont feel bad you are SO not a bad Mum just because Caleb took a tumble. It happens to the best of us! Enjoy your cuddle with DP but dont ever worry about bringing us down we are here for you to talk to when you need us!

For all of you who read my other thread, check it again. I just posted an UPDATE which I think you will find most interesting here

We are all fine today been listening to Tori Amos all day which invariably puts me in a great mood! Hope you are all well!

Heres a pic of Reuben at last Reuben

will catch upwith the messages as soon as i can. my 13 yr old ds helped me

here is a pic of Alex sitting up on his own! I have a gorgeous one of him nudey rudey that I am ever so happy to email to friends but I didnt want to post on the internet.

Ahhh the pics of both Alex and Reuben are gorgeous! Jackson had the rocking snail for xmas too..how cute!

Eeny please dont let your friends twatty DH upset you, he obviously has no clue whatsoever about babies then? He sounds like a proper byatch! Mind you, your friend should have stuck up for you too, my DH wouldnt dare talk to my friends like that!

Well we got a bouncey thingy and Jackson just sat in and stared at us as if to say 'ok what am I meant to do now?' Took some pics of him giggling at DH and hope to get one posted on here soon.

Hope your ok Pink, bet your still seething about your mom, she should do the decent thing and send a big apology! Mind you with moms like that who needs enemies eh? My mom can be a bit of a bitch at times too!

Booby, how can you be looking forward to going back to work hun? Your the first person I've heard say that lol x

Nice to hear from you Dreamy, sounds like you been busy as always!

Found you!!!!

Happy New Year to you all even if its a bit late...

Can't stop long as have Austin on my lap 'helping' me type lol!

Will read the other thread if i ever get a mo.....

Not done much, seen psych on Tues, got to go back yet again as seem to be getting worse and feel like i actually have no friends.....

Will try and get 5 mins 2moz to catch up.

Missing yoy all

Snow xx

bhm ive been at work since dec3rd and i was missing my mates yesterday been in today and was bored

cj went to bed at 6:45 tonight creid abit wen to sleep woke up about 7:30 had a small feed then just a minute ago another small fed but well shes not screamed so maybe it will work in the long row

im soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired today i need lots of sleep

morning girls.

sorry your still struggling Snow, you're not alone in feeling like you have no friends though, all mine disappeared into thin air when i had dd and i haven't really got any mom friends (besides you lot of course!) i hope the psych is helpful and dh is pulling his weight.

BHM, thats how caleb reacted to the bouncer too, dd on the other hand started jumping and giggling like a lunatic straight away. we don''t put caleb in it much coz she just starts twirling hom around at top speed screeching 'wheeeeeeee!' which is cute but poor caleb gets absolutely petrified

im watching the lil mermaid with cj shes laffing her head off

and she selpt on and off last night til 7 45 then fell asleep again at 10 til 11.3o this morning

she had her first kip in her cotbed this afternoon and dh has decided its time for the cotbed

any way back to the film

Hey everyone...sorry you're still feeling bad snow, and booby glad dd likes little mermaid, I think kiera will have to grow up liking thomas the tank engine thanks to her big brother

Got dd weighed today she's 13lb 4 so HV is putting pressure on me to wean. Bah. She's only 19 weeks.

BHM ds was like that at first in door bouncer.

eeny do NOT let mean men insult your son. I'd have given him a good slap lol. Isn't he a clever boy sitting up?!?!

oooo, forgot to say i weighed caleb at my parents and he's 9kgs (about 20 lbs i think)

booby, i had both mine sat in front of polar express this morning and they loved it. got a cute pic of the sitting side by side staring at the screen.

don't mind the hv luna, keira sounds like a lovely petite little girl and anmyway, solids have less calories than bm so she's talking out of her ass anyway!

kiera, sorry

Ah Pink you made me smile with your stories of your dd and Caleb sitting side by side and her twirling him round on the door bouncer lol. Makes me get all broody about having our No.2 baby.

Lunavix, dont listen to your HV they all say the same old thing, dont they realise that some babies are going to be small and some big, its just they way they are. Do whats right for you and dont let them get to ya hun!

Booby, I have found that transferring Jackson into his cotbed was the best thing we ever did! He took to it straight away and slept for longer, and he also has his day naps in there. Mind you I often find him at the other end of the bed on his belly squeezing the life out of his little teddy ha! I think its good for them to be able to move around and have their own space but I think Jackson thinks its a mini assault course and gets his feet on the bars and moves his body in all sorts of positions bless!

Hi Snow, hope your app with the psych goes well, you should never feel that you got no friends we're all here for you! Wished we all lived in the same street or something wouldnt it be great?

Well I'm on a mission to get Jackson to bed before 9pm as he doenst go to sleep some nights until 10-11ish. I've made myself get up at 7am instead of 9ish to get his first feed down earlier...fingers crossed he will go down as planned.

New routine plan: (sorry to bore you)

7am - 8oz Milk feed

9am - Solids (apple puree or rice pudding)

11am - 8oz Milk feed

2pm - 8oz Milk feed

5pm - 6oz milk feed

8pm - 1/2 rusk with milk and rest of 7oz milk feed

Whats everyone else routine like as I'm curious....thinking of introducing some type of savoury at the 2pm or 5pm feed any ideas?

routine! thats a dirty word in this house lol

Snow honey we are your friends! I dont know if I have your email address but you can email me on senatorvass at gmail dot com if you ever need to talk.

BHM I love reading other peoples routines (sorry Pink) Alex feeds every three hours with a 5oz bottle PLUS at 9, 12, and 6 he has solids. We really want him to feed less frequently though as it would make the nights much easier. Had him weighed on Tuesday he is 19lbs now so about Calebs size! These two are going to be sumo wrestlers together!

Booby will your cotbed be in your room or CJs? Alex sleeps in his cot he never took to the moses basket. His cot is in our room I see it being in there for a long time.

Thanks all for your support regarding that situation with my friends. I am trying to get over it hoping its just a one off annoying thing.

evening!

BHM - you sound so organised! we dont really have a routine, only that dd is bathed, fed and bed starting around 6.15 and a bottle of formula around half ten when i go to bed. other than that, she is bfed when she wants it, no schedule! i wish i was more organised!

snow- hope you're ok. x

Luna - your dd sounds like mine - similar age, similar weight. she is on 25th centile with weight but apart from a wobble before her reflux was treated, has stayed pretty much on it. i guess she's going to be petite like me ( or short, as dh tells me!!)

dd is going solo as from tonight; she has been in her cotbed in her room for a few weeks now, but with me on matress on the floor. i am moving back to the marital bed tonight!! scared stupid that something is going to happen to her but trying to be brave.....

Re routines - I think you have to find one that suits you. TBH - Molly fits into our routine. I think with the 2nd baby you are more relaxed and roughly know what to expect .

Molly usually feeds around every 4/5 hours and has an 8oz bottle. At lunchtime and tea feed, has a small helping of baby rice or some other powdered food. Has last bottle around 9/10pm and then goes to bed till around 7am next morning. Sometimes, on a school day, I have to actually wake her up to feed her! If I wake her just before going out the door with the intention of feeding her when I return from school, she screams the place down and I get 'looks' from other mums at school! I can just hear them now, 'fancy letting her cry like that...' 'she's not fed her this morning'

I have only done this once and believe me, once was enough! Now I make sure she gets up at 7am or just after to make sure she is fed, changed and clothed ready for the school run!

You'll see - when you newbies have your second, third, fourth..(am I going too far???) you'll be well into a routine that suits your whole family (well, that's the idea!)

Before I get ranted at, sorry if I've insulted anyone by calling them 'newbies'

Oooohhh did you hear that Eeny sarahlou called us 'newbies' ha ha dont be daft Sarahlou you havent insulted us cuz we are 'newbies' but I'm loving it!
Well the routine plan didnt go as planned. Although Jackson got up 2 hours earlier he still didnt want to go to bed till 10pm, he was fighting it like a gud'un! He also decided to get up around 4 times during the night for his dummy...so I've told DH to stick his new idea up his arse!

Olivo, I'm not organised at all, just trying to get Jackson into the idea of getting up early when I have to start getting up at 6am for work in Feb. Your doing really well with the BF, I really miss it now and think my milk is drying up now although I still let Jackson suck for 10mins or so as I cant seem to let go totally.. Oh and I'm sure your DD will be fine going solo, Jackson is in his own room too but you cant help worrying, I wake up and grab the monitor and listen for his breathing and if I dont hear him I have to get out of bed and go check on him..its a natural thing for us to worry.

Well today I've got to get the xmas deco's down, one of my biggest pet hates.

Tonight we are going to a friends 30th birthday party and taking Jackson with us, cant wait to show him off, bet he'll sleep through it ha!

sarahlou, you've hit the nail on the head there. it's impossible to create a routine for the second baby as they simply have to fit around the rest of the family. we do a bedtime routine with them but the time varies a little from night to night and if caleb had a late nap he won't fall asleep in his cot so he comes back downstairs til after sarah goes up and i have the time to settle him.

i'm dreading the end of the month when she starts playschool as we'll have to get them up at 6.30/7 am and neither of them get up til 8.30/9am at the minute.... which is nice!

caleb is still in our room and as we only have 2 bedrooms he'll be sharing with dd when his sleep is a bit more settled..... hopefully soon!

i'm off to tear down my decorations now as they're annoying the hell out of me and the place needs a good scrub to boot!

well, we've just waved our xmas tree goodbye - it's been taken for recycling. i'm pleased to get rid of all the decs, the only prob is trying to find everything i shifted out of the way fast to make room just before xmas!
pink and snow - none of my friends have babies. i am crap at making friends anyway, the ones i've got are friends i've had for years, and sorry pink to hear of your mum being difficult. i know how bad it feels when they're being rotten and then you wonder if it's your fault, even when you know it's not really.it's a horrible feeling.
bhm - i agree with routines but i just can't do them it's a succesful day for me if we manage to have lunch by 4pm!

reuben is due his third lot of injections next week. there will be a new one. i think it's pneumococal something or other. i just can't remember what it's called. has anyone else's lo had this and has it been ok? i'll be able to get him weighed too. last time was mid november

morning

I dont think ive been on this new thread yet.

hugs to snowboo for feeling worse. Havent seen u on msn hun, if u want to chat please bleep me. Althugh Im not great at the mo either , but its mainly outside forces (dh , family) and not my mental health. Although I think those can lead to it.

Pink your mum sounds like a horror. Why do they make out were not as good a parent as they were??

eeeny , hope I didnt go off on one to much on your thread.

I also dont go out that much , as Im soo tired and my backs still playing up a lot. I tend to only do one thing a week with someone and the rest of the week Im wasted ! I also seem to have a fear of venturing out on my own with both of them. Its all too much trying to fit in feeds and shopping and getting to somewere too. Ive done it no prob when just with the baby and dd1 at nursury but no way alone. dh keeps shouting at me about it & thats a whole other thread .Lets say were at each others throats right now ALL THE TIME, shouting , bickering, stressed and frustrated.It doesnt help that dh started new business a few mths back abd therefore means Im alone alot ,inc some weekends and I really need some time to decompress and hey ho mums dont really get that,as I keep being told by him FFS, but I know if I dont soon Im gonna start suffering mentally. I feel like screaming and I have been in to pillows. I dont quite know what to do as the phychologist doesn think I have any sort of problems mentally right now?????. Ive got umptenn threads on things right now, feels really needy to link them , but I need to let off steam somehow.

I have been very lucky to make new mummy friends the last yr. Mainly all from a mummy playgroup & some of the same mummies going to nursury too. They may all go to the same school in September, which will be nice. I did make friends from parenting classes when dd1 was a baby , but we dont see each other as much , so I needed to make some more friends to do regular weekly get togethers. The only problem is that even going out I feel a kind of numbness , I cant explain it really. Im hoping its just tiredness , and I keep saying it is.

ooh no just read that back ths afternoon , sorry to sound boastfull about friends thing. I didnt really have anything like this till dd1 was born and Im very grateful for it , as before it was just aqauntance type things at work.

also 34 , so its taken a looooooooong time to get any kind of nice girly grp of friends.

Melsy - hugs coming your way. I was also nervous about going out on my own with both kids but soon got into the habit. I know it's daunting, especially if you are feeling low yourself. Just take one day at a time love, and try and think of something positive.

Back problem - visiting a physio/chiropractor really worked for me. You can get a referral from your gp. He gave me several exercises to do to strengthen the muscles around your back so over time, they will support you better. Mine has just got better after going on xmas day so I roughly know how much pain you are going through.

Don't know what else to say other than if you want to talk, there are plenty of us here who will listen and offer a 'virtual' shoulder to cry on.

Chin up lass. You've got friends both here and in the rw. You say you've made a few friends through school - how about suggesting that when you have dropped them off, you start going to each other's house for say an hour for a coffee? This will gradually get you back into the routine of 'going out.'

Sorry, but if I'm talking tosh, please feel free to slap me (but not hard please, I'm trying to help!!)

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told you I'd send hugs your way!