August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

Ah dozy that's great news on the feeding. Hope it continues.

DS had a shocker of a night too. For some reason just constantly wanted boob. And took it so think he must have been genuinely hungry. For the first time in weeks he slept in the evening. (Downstairs, on our laps, obvs) So was v optimistic as sleep begets sleep right? Last night DS took that theory and tore it right up. Wouldn't even settle in bed with me. And is refusing to fed lying down so hard to drag myself up. Still lovely to dance the night away at magabues. And hurray for Friday.

Morning all - we had an evening of running upstairs to settle J. Well I say we - DH was fixing his bike with a mate who dropped round with his gf to meet J, who was cranky and just wailed when being handed over for cuddles. I had to keep leaving poor gf on her own as J refused to settle. He's currently passed out on me after breakfast no 2.

I had a call from the community mental health team yesterday and am going to try CBT. I have my first phone appointment this morning. DH is working from home, so he will take J if necessary. My assessment call was slightly disrupted by J feeding and then bringing most of it down my top ...

Hope the call goes well tindel x

Tindel, well done. Talking will help, hope you get on well with CBT. And we're all here for you wherever you need us!

Had a bad night, lots of feeding. DH enthusiastically got up w DD this morning so I could sleep until 10!! He even got DD down for a nap so me and baby woke up well rested.

Coffee isn't going to be decaf this morning tho!!

Hope all are doing well today xo

Argh, "D" P best fuck off trying to tell me hes tired!

Mastitis

Fucking hell.

Oh no joskar nightmare . Hope it passes quickly.

rra grumpy 2 is the same, I'm presuming growth spurt combined with a little cold. She's 13 weeks so the right age for it. Developmentally there is a lot going for them around 3 months so upset feeding/sleeping is quite normal. Just keep chanting "this too shall pass" and it will. Eventually.

dozy yay for the new shields, glad you are over the bump

frolic now that's a question, what am I going to see? Dad books the tickets and I just roll along for a surprise evening out. Given that I usually can't follow the lyrics it all adds to the fun of the night . I'll let you know later at Mugabe's!

Oh rra, what 'helpful' advice from your HV! Seriously?! If you bf what baby settles without boob? Im sure there are some out there but it has to be massively in the minority. Hope he feels better soon!

Excellent news on the feeding dozy!! You're such a trooper!!

Kbro - hope you get an early night in and some rest over the weekend!

Best of luck with the call Tindel xx

Excellent job Mr Grok!!!!

Oh fuck joskar - got any antibiotics??

So after my smug night sleep we fought for morning nap. I won mwahaha! It was only for half an hour which is less than our usual 50mins BUT that is everyday this week she's morning napped in her cot. Does this mean it's now a thing????

Good afternoon!
Ds is still a snot monster, but seems better in himself again today. He's got a bit of a cough, but only when he lies down. It's not chesty and he has no temperature, so I think he's clearing snot at the back of the throat rather than a chest infection. I'm keeping a close eye.
We've been for coffe this morning with some friends and their 2 girls who are 10 months and 13 months. Such fun! I just can't quite believe that they will all be in the same school year. Ds is so small in comparison.

My boobs are covered in snot as well grok. Super sexy

You're very welcome to my Dahl recipe if you think it will help clstow 💩

Thank you for the book recommendations perpetual.

I hope you're feeling better today mzzf and lily.

Night out, sleep and no hangover? You are so winning fanby. Cot naps are totally a thing in your house now .

I hope your dp arrives soon to take over fatty.

rrra, I second what everyone else says about ignoring the hv. He's been poorly and is probably stocking up on antibodies and also looking for comfort. I'm sure things will improve when he gets better. Poor baby and poor you, it's so tough. Glad your dh is back to do his share tonight.

Glad you had another good day dozy. I really admire your perseverance.

I'm a cbt practitioner tindel. It's fab. I regularly use the principles myself. I think it should be on the national curriculum. I find it shocking that we teach our kids about almost every subject, but not how to manage emotions, which is so bloody important.

Ds regularly disproves the sleep begets sleep theory kbro.

Ouch jockstar - can you get some antibiotics before the weekend?

Enjoy yourself tonight slow.

Ds is asleep. I'm going to attempt a stealth transfer to the pram and go in search of your Christmas decorations.

Urggh projectile vomiting and diahorrhea all night then all day I've felt terrible! Can only eat bread! Feeling sorry for self!

raa what planet is the hv from?! Seriously, I can't stand the guilt trips some of them give, don't bf for comfort, don't rock baby, hold baby etc etc all the bf counsellors I've ever met recommend feeding on demand even if it's for comfort, these babies have still spent more time in utero than out, of course they need comfort and why would we make life hard by refusing them their comfort?!

joskar ouch! I had it with dd1, can you feed lots from the mastitis side or express to clear any blockage?

Dozy great news, long may the better feeding continue!

Afm I'm hoping for a better night tonight as baby giraffe was up a lot last night, plus dh was away so I had 3yo asking to play at 6am...please baby sleep more tonight!

I just had a pizza though and got chocolate for the evening so looking forward to starting the weekend!

Fingers crossed everyone has a good night.

I'm torn and need advice - DH and I have an Xmas party (the only the year!) tmrw night. I've been looking forward to the night out for a few months. DD is sick and grandparents are coming up to babysit. Should I skip drinking and keep baby in our room so when we get home I'm there in case she's up a lot, last night she wouldn't even take a bottle from DH. OR should I go, drink & have fun but come home to baby crying in grandparents' room, possibly not taking bottle, and unable to help and feeling horribly guilty?

Grok, can you do halfway house of a couple of drinks? If sleep settles down I plan on going to my Xmas party. Was going to make H drive and have a couple of glasses with the meal. It is on a Thursday, so we'll probably come home again after the meal.

Grok - I'd go middle of the road, have a few drinks but don't go crazy, if she's poorly you'll want to get up with her/will hear her anyway. Plus you'll be looking after her the following day anyhoo!! Have an amazing time regardless of how many Vinos you have

Yeah maybe don't do a Mugabe Nights and line the jagerbombs up on the bar as you'll be on duty the next day too!!

MaGra and Joskar I hope you're feeling better the pair of you. New bums and boobs all round.

So turns out mini mzzzf is in the depths of sleep regression. Any chance I had of evenings down with DH, even just an hour are loooooong gone. She'll settle on me relatively well as will sleep in her cot well too but the moment I get comfy on the sofa downstairs - BOOM! Full on cries and shaky angry arms. DH cannot calm her down at all. It makes me worry for our night away tomorrow....how the fuck will MIL cope?
DH just doesn't spend enough time with her to be of comfort to her. It's a shame as recently he's wanted to help but I can't bear listening to her getting more and more worked up when he's trying to settle her when I know I can have her quiet in minutes few. Arrrgghhh!!! I know it's because she's with me 99% of the time but I thought DH would be a comfort to her, she won't even let him shush/pay or replace the dummy...
Any tips?

On a different note I feel like Dorothy in the wiZard of Oz in that my house might blow away any minute!! Tis proper windy miller up here!!!

mzzzf DS totally panics if he goes to sleep with me nearby and wakes up and I'm not there. Full on tears and hysteria. Nothing calms him but a cuddle from me. DP can sometimes settle him for a nap, though. I'm trying very hard to essentially just force DP to spend as much time as possible with DS as long as DS is happy. DS does definitely know who he is and that now - DP can settle calm him if he's slightly upset but really big unhappiness just needs a boob anyway.

Good tummy time frolic - J seems to be less grumpy about tummy time. We did some at our music class today and he actually did it for more than 10 seconds without grizzling.

Well, my call today was more assessments and I'm having guided self-help. I have a workbook to go through and a chat with the therapist in 2 weeks. It was quite hard vocalising feelings I've been doing my best to bury, so was feeling a bit emotionally drained. Night out with NCT class (mums, dads and babies) was much needed. J took less than an hour to settle, despite late bedtime and no bath. Hoping for a decent night's sleep now

Oh joskar u poor thing!! You've been tandem feeding haven't u? How unlucky for u to get mastitis. I've not suffered with it yet so have no advice but I hope it heals quickly.

Grok I say the same as others, go middle ground. I have no worries for my dd as she sleeps better with grandparents than with me.

Tindel glad things are under way for you and soon you'll be able to enjoy j even more. Hope u have a good night's rest.

The wind is horrendous isn't it!! Feel like my house is going to blow away. I'm desperately waiting for some pleasant winter days to arrive so can go on wintery walks. I like cold winter walks but not wet windy ones.

Having a woe is me day today about my weight. At a 30th bday party tomorrow and I have nothing to wear. Searched today but looked hideous in everything so have one at ditch attempt at shopping tomorrow which I hate doing as it's a Saturday. There's no way I'm going to lose weight now it's December but come January I must must must stick to weightwatchers 100% I want to become a success story not someone that it doesn't work for.
When my friend did it the weight dropped off her so quickly but I'm shit at it. I cheat way too much. A picture came up on time hop of me from 4 years ago when I was at my slimmest and it's made me really miserable. I feel fat and old and frumpy. I don't like my hair despite only just having it cut and I feel like I look tired. I miss lie ins. But I wouldn't change dd for the world. Apart from vanity, she is all that matters reall . Doesn't matter what I look like. My job now is to car for her and make her life the best it can be, so I need to be healthy for her as well so that I've energy got her as she grows.

Yey for the tummy time frolic. Piper is definitely getting loads better at it the more I do it.

Mzzf really hope u have a fab night out. Fingers crossed dd is a good girl for your babysitters. I don't know how to help with the bonding between her and dh. My dd will go to anybody, she's really not fussy as long as they hold her the way she wants to be held. I wonder if she'll ever be bothered about me sometimes.

Hi just a quick hello to say I've not blown away. Everyone here has a cough and a sore throat so sleep is a bit rubbish atm. Having said that ds2 has just fallen asleep so I'm off again. Keep my seat I'll be back

Oh great. The bloody cat has not come home tonight so I'm worried sick about him AND DS has decided to have some kind of sleep regression. I've only had 2h of sleep despite 7:30 bedtime. :( I am going to end up grumpy and overtired and not enjoying the wedding tonight at all.

Morning all -

fanby glad you got a good night out and got a sleep in the spare room! Lovely pic

rrra DD loves a boob in her mouth all night - she even puts her little hands each side of it like she is holding a cup!! I just keep telling myself it doesn't last - done this with all DCs and they do eventually stop - honestly - I just enjoy the snuggles whilst they are still small. What does the HV know?!?

joskar you poor thing - must be in agony - hope it gets better very soon X

frolic lol at your competitive parenting - my DD hopeless at tummy time

Well our whole weekend has been ruined here - the Forth Road Bridge is closed until after the New Year - basically our only way out of Fife or a 44 mile detour. DH works in Edinburgh so has been taking him 3-4 hour journey each way for last few days - don't even ask how tired that is making him. Today 2 eldest DCs competing in a swimming gala in Edinburgh - off on team bus at 6am this morning hoping to get there on time - I can't go and watch for the first time ever as don't want to sit in massive traffic jam with baby - hope they are ok - will be anxious about them all day - they went skipping off - delighted to be parent free for a day. DS had a party booked at Ryze in Edinburgh (trampoline park) for tomorrow but had to cancel as journey too long with bridge closure - he is really upset - trying to organise an alternative for 5 boys for tomorrow - STRESSED.....

Morning all.

love I saw the news about the Forth Bridge and wondered if it was affecting anyone on here. What a nightmare for you

frolic I'm still a bit slack at tummy time so grumpy 2 doesn't enjoy it for very long before getting shouty. You have inspired me to practice! Last nights musical experience was Dafydd Iwan, he brought the house down with 'Yma O Hyd'. I had never realised the Welsh language music scene was so vibrant until I moved up here (we have always been big live music fans). I saw some great Welsh and English gigs last year but the Cowbois Rhos Botwnnog at 7 months pregnant in a disused sports store was by far my favourite .

Not too windy here but we are quite sheltered (thanks Wales) so it generally doesn't get too bad. I now have the stinky cold though so feeling sorry for myself

joskar how are you this morning?

grok another vote for middle of the road, or even not drinking at all. If you are going to feel guilty won't that taint the pleasure of boozing anyway? Only do it if you are able to really relax and party away!

tindel glad you are seeing progress with your support. My sister had cbt a few years back and it helped her loads.

fanby hurray for cot napping! Are you going to keep it up over the weekend? I find we get good at something over the week but then it all goes to hell in a handcart at the weekend when the routine goes out the window

I'm off to indulge in some pain relief, oh wait, I forgot, just shite paracetamol for me - boo hiss...

Gosh! It looks like it was a quiet night at the bar. I hope that's because everyone was sleeping. We had a snotty wake up at about 3:30, but he went straight back down after a few minutes of boob.
He's well and truly found his voice and still very shouty today. He sounds so annoyed, but looks so pleased with himself.