August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

Annoying things babies do (number 967): spend the long walk in the pram you take them on wide awake until 40 seconds before you get home, knowing full well you live in a flat and mummy has NEVER successfully got you upstairs asleep.

I am currently stood up by my pram just inside the back door letting aidan finish his nap as if not he will have slept for a grand total of 20 minutes today. Thank god I parent in the days of 4G.

Question for everyone regarding bedtimes: what do you do if your LO falls asleep before bed time? DS pretty much always passes out for a bit after a big feed, and often ends up falling asleep in my arms half an hour or an hour before we want to start his bedtime routine. I'm never sure if it's better to wake him and try to keep him awake, to let him sleep in my lap and just wake him and take him straight to the bath when bedtime comes, or if I should try to let him sleep until he wakes naturally and then keep him awake until he's has a chance to get tired or hungry again.

I've been aiming to start his routine around 7 or 8 so he's in bed by around 9. I wonder if I should be trying to do it earlier? What is everyone else doing at bedtime now?

(obviously I am asking because this happened at half 6)

kbro I feel your pain. Your post could have been written by me 4 years ago. I spent days wandering around Greenwich in the pissing rain because I couldn't grumpy 1 back into our flat!

siani if he consistently falls asleep at roughly the same time I'd consider moving bedtime forward x

kbro huge sympathy.
siani I would bring bedtime forward. He is a cutie though
DD has passed out on my living room floor. I've left her there for the last half hour as I have been stuck under a feeding DS2. I will move her now.

Erm not sure what has happened. DS is 15 weeks today and has been impossible to put anywhere all morning. To the point of carrying him when I went to the loo. So had to use the dodgy carrier which he loved but has shattered my back. And he's slept for about an hour all day! This avo he was quite smiley and loved rhyme time and the Christmas tree. But why so clingy again?!! Crazy!

Siani maybe he wants a bedtime of
6pm?!
I remember starting mini mzzzf's bedtime at 8pm to get her in the cot by 9pm but she was too angsty by then so I tried bringing it forward and for us it's upstairs at 7.30pm, change nappy put on pjs and read etx then lights out at 8pm ish. Her last nap of the day is usually 4-6pm. I do wake her up if she goes past 6pm as I want to get a feed in her before bed too. Also we ditched the bath right before bed as she's just way too stimulated by it and gets hyper. So now it's a wet wipe wash and minimal fussing. If her best is bearable I don't change that either, just keep it all super boring and simple. She's currently zonked out on the pillow next to me but I'll leave it another 15before transferring her. I really have to sort out daytime naps in the cot I reckon!

I cannot wait for the hotel sleepover on Saturday. I'm equally dreading leaving her and mentally picking out pyjamas for the night away too!!

HV came today for the 4mth check up. Turns out DD is a lanky streak of p@ss! she's dropped a centile on weight and now is only just scrapping over a stone despite knocking back a litre of milk a day. HV reckons it's because she's so active. She also gave me he standard government schpeil re weaning but said of DD was still mega hungry in 4 weeks time then I could try baby rice. I didn't mention that dd has scoffed porridge and some sweet potato prior to her visit. Beginning to learn that sometimes it's easier to just smile and wave!

Happy sleepy nights every body!!! X

MaGra - a growth spurt or skill development going on? DD behaves exactly like that when she's processing new stuff. He might surprise you with a Monet knock off tomorrow

It's going to be another long night with the dwarf who cannot lie flat. Both girls have been asleep since 7pm but grumpy 2 is still drowning in her own mucus so no sleep for me - Waaah!!!

Kbro- hope your not still stuck in the stairwell!

Siani- in the past I have always woken DS to start bedtime routine which I've been doing bath around 7pm followed by story in his room with nightlight projector- into sleeping bag and then carried downstairs to dimly lit lounge for last feed and been letting him fall asleep on my lap these past couple of sleep regressing weeks as he's been fighting it. That's said I have no idea what just happened......bath, book- look down to see he's asleep!! Wtf!? Hadn't put him in sleeping bag as I thought I'd be taking him downstairs and needed to put him in Bouncy chair so I could start tea and needed to strap him in so lay him in his cot whilst I put him in it- he didn't wake up!! So I've left him there with monitor on! Bizarre!!! He needs his last bottle yet but I will wait till he wakes or when I go up I'll be moving him to his Moses in our room so will try to rouse gently and feed then! I really don't understand these babies at all! Prior to his bath he'd been screaming on and off since waking at 5.30 as I think his teeth are sore, I did give him bonjela after his bath but even so I'm very confused!!!

Mzzf- I think that's a good tactic with the HV! DS is 14lbs at 18 weeks bless him he's a little tiddler! Tracking his 9th percentile though. He appears to have actually grown overnight as I couldn't get a sleepsuit I him tonight despite vim having worn one from the same multi pack last night! the pile of too small clothes grows ever bigger!

More of the clothes I ordered for him arrived today including the most adorable red and white striped dungarees with a massive Xmas pud on the front! He is so wearing them when we put the tree up on Sunday!!

I'm either going to have the longest night ever in the bar after such an easy start to the night or going to be absent im soooooo praying for the latter!!!

Think it's going to be a long night - J is upstairs, but refusing to stay asleep. DH and I are taking it in turns to go upstairs and try to get him to fall asleep. Think we might have to get an early night in order to get him to sleep for more than 15 minutes at a time ...

Evening all,

Sian love the photo, your ds is so cute!

dozy I can hear your frustration on feeding, has trying to reduce bottles helped at all? Maybe the bottles in the evening are reducing your supply later in the day? I hope you can find a solution that works for you

Afm I think I'm at the four months exhaustion, fatigue and chaos stage! I need a break from the dc, I haven't had one since dd2 was born, I feel like I've constantly got either a child, baby or cat (we have 4...) demanding attention. Dh seems to consider leaving me with 'just' the baby is a break?! Only recently I moved to a new area and I keep going to playgroups to meet mums but no one seems very friendly yet, hopefully I'll meet some like minded mums soon.

Does anyone else's baby like to feed for comfort at night? Baby giraffe has started to wise up to feeding for comfort, I don't mind as I know it's good for her stress levels and it doesn't really wake me...at the moment anyway!

See some of you in Mugabes later, I'm ready for some shots or the whole bottle

Quick post......today has been a good day!!!! She's fed beautifully all day. Wouldn't go to bed this evening when I wanted to but other than today has been good. Night night all

Giraffes that is exactly how I feel at the moment. I don't even get to go for a poo in peace as DD follows me in to provide a running commentary! But then like Mzzf I would be so apprehensive about a night away even though I know it would be amazing. Mzzf, you'll have an amazing time once you get there though!!

My DS seems to feed for warmth at night as has lots of (hourly) short feeds but I don't think he can need that much and he always seems cold. Just cuddling to settle him doesn't work. It means I cannot get into a proper sleep at all. Even co-sleeping isn't working any more as he just wants to be on my chest. DH tried to settle him tonight but I think DS was so pleased to see him after being with me all day that they just ended up cuddling and smiling and giggling with each other. Was v cute but I am dreading tonight as he's totally put of whack now.

Lily, my DS is a tiddler too. Still in 0-3 clothes and tracking 9th centile. He eats plenty though and is alert and happy so I just think he's small.

Slow, I am happy to provide a Babushka spoiler if you wish to be prepared! It is a beautiful but v sad story. And yes to whoever said it means Grandmother in Russian. A+ for knowledge!

Right, stealth transfer underway. Last night's resulted in screaming before I had even cleaned my teeth so it can't go any worse

Early ish visit for me!! DH tried sleeping in with us tonight, sufficient to say he's now in the spare room!!
DD just seems to get disturbed by him and his noises. He's not a super loud snorer but there's a definite noise increase which has meant her being up at 10.30,11, 11.45 and I've just caved and given her bottle just after midnight. She's sleeping on the pillow next to me I'll transfer in a bit and pray for sleep. I'm tired from the last few nights of increased wake ups so was hoping for s decent det of 3hr blocks tonight - yeah right!!!
Also I can feel a. Scratchy throat starting, just in time for the weekend obviously! Sorry for the whingey post but I don't think anything makes you miss sleep like gearing someone snoring sound asleep next to you! Bastard!!

Nolonger I really hope you're asleep!! You're a star for hourly feeds and balancing two of them all day!!

Hi all. Just popping in.
I've not had a night away from my DCs since DD was born. And even before then it was very rarely my DS slept over anywhere. My mum won't have them overnight until they are out of nappies,(basically once they are dry and sleeping through ) and my dad doesn't really have the space. They aren't allowed to DPs house for any longer than a couple of hours. (He lives with his mum and she's a fucking dick, long back story there)
I don't like being away from them either to be fair. It's strange. I'm so used to having someone with me at all times.
But when I have had that break I've felt better for it.

Baby sizes...DD is a little one.(9th centile) She's in 12-18 clothing (just) and will be 2 in a couple of weeks
It's funny as DS2 is so big. (98th centile) there is literally only around 4 lb between them. Some children are meant to be big, some small.
DS2 has been trying to steal my food all day! I think he's enjoying weaning. He stole a piece of toast and scoffed it quite happily. He basically sucked it until bits fell into his mouth, then gummed it before swallowing. So I ended up giving him some toast and a bit of rusk. I think he approves. (He didn't eat all of that, its more for exploration of different textures)

Nope Mzzzf still here. Thanks though and i hope you get some sleep and don't get ill. DH came in telling a story and woke DS up. Why he didn't shut up once he could hear him stirring is beyond me. It's not like he'll be the one up all night now. I think I should kick him into

Fatty, my DD was 14 months when DH and I had a weekend in London and left her with DGM. It was so weird that first time but it was also the weekend the clocks went back so we got an extra hour in bed too...bliss! You must be shattered after 2 years without a night off.

Luckily DD has always been a good sleeper. DS1 and 2 though are awful! DS1 only started sleeping through at 4. I'm hoping DS2 decides he likes sleep a bit sooner than that though! The first time I had a night without DS 1, I was meant to pick him up from my dads at half 9, but I slept in and phoned him in a panic at 11am! He laughed at me and told me not to worry about it.

Morning all,, apparently I'm awake so DS can fart.
He's had a good night, woke at 3 for a feed and passed out on the boob, but woke himself up farting so now he's on the boob again, feeding and farting. Well, whatever makes him happy, I guess?

I love the farts. It makes me giggle every time. Dd is a great trumper.

I'm gonna sound like bad mum now but I love having a night off from dd. I dread it leading up to it but once I'm out and having fun then I don't mind. Does feel a bit weird without her but it's nce to have some time ou . I've always been quite sociable so I'd probably go stir crazy not going out. I have 2 30th birthdays parties coming up this month plus some nights out with friends. I'm lucky that I have both sets of grandparents on hand to babysit. I prefer my mum having her though. Don't feel as comfortable with dps parents.

Only problem is the night away probably doesn't help my bf journey but then sometimes she's fussy when she's been nowhere near a bottle so it might not be that.

Morning

DD now has a bad cold - not had much sleep all week . giraffe DD likes to comfort feed during the night - easier to just let her rather than her getting upset - I will start being a bit 'stricter' when she gets bigger!

fatty he looks delighted with himself - lol at him scoffing toast!!

nolonger my DD is still in 0-3 month clothes too - getting fed up seeing her in the same stuff but don't want to buy more in this age range as she won't get much wear out of it.

I have never had a night without a child for 13 years (age of oldest DD)!! No family help at all unfortunately. giraffe my DH thinks he is doing me a favour if he takes elder 2 DCs out - NO - he is still leaving me with 4 others and older ones are no bother as they look after themselves !!

J farts ridiculously loudly, DH and I have to check whether it's one of us or him!

Haven't yet managed a whole night away from J yet, just a few hours. We've been invited out for drinks next weekend, but can't find anyone to look after J. DH is suggesting I go, but as I won't be able to drink, it seems slightly pointless.

Slightly concerned as DH has given J a bottle of expressed milk the last two nights. He reckons it's as if J has forgotten how to drink from a bottle and he takes a lot less than normal. He slept until 6, so am hoping he just wasn't hungry rather than refusing bottles. Currently trying to persuade J to go back to sleep, even just for another hour - it feels too early to be up at the moment

I think the farts are hilarious too. DS is a very farty baby. The other day he woke up while I was in the queue at h&m and cried so hard he farted, really loudly. Then he said "ooh!" and smiled. Several people looked at us. I was in hysterics.