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February '15 babies - appearing thick and fast!

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GeekyHybrid · 18/02/2015 12:44

Our first thread on the 'other side'. And may all our soon to be mummies join us in this adventure through the early days of parenthood as we continue to share exciting times.

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Honeybird · 26/02/2015 21:05

Thanks whyo, hope it isn't a lactose intolerance, actually too much foremilk sounds more likely, she drifts off quickly and I often let her rather than giving her a nudge and keeping her on. now my nipples are healing less tempting to get her off the boob quickly so will try to keep her feeding longer.

Honeybird · 26/02/2015 21:09

Mild sounds rough. But babies are way more efficient than breast pumps. And while I can understand you feeling bad, I am sure a four week old doesn't give a hoot if you shout. If it released some stress it was probably a very good thing!

freneticfox · 26/02/2015 21:30

Congratulations Sand!

Addicted - it's really tough. I still feel really angry that I wasn't given better support at the beginning.. Just told how to do it and assured all would be fine.

Question.. When is it usual to start noticing nappy rash? LO has what looks like a sore red patch on his bum, is it OK to start using cream?

Memphisbelly · 26/02/2015 21:48

frenetic we have had nappy rash a few times already. sudocrem is crap use metanium or weleda

mildatheart · 26/02/2015 21:50

Frenetic we noticed some week2/3. German midwife recommended the Weleda cream and it worked a treat. Unfortunately he now has thrush so is on the Canestan.

Memphisbelly · 26/02/2015 22:21

Weleda is recommended by all German health professionals apparently, only ever seen it in big boots stores here, its a third off at the moment, its lovely stuff though (the range not just nappy cream) metanium is also good but beware it stains so be sure not to wipe the remenants on your jeans like I did!

Ds is honestly a different child, mum and sis had him today and they both said how relaxed he is now on gaviscon. Hope he sleeps well again. Work was fine, but my mum was really stressed with the pushchair and car seat so tonight I have ordered a more basic parent facing pushchair for her to use and my sis has got her car seat and base to stay in mums car to make her day more enjoyable, luckily my friend saw her struggling to collapse pushchair and helpedGrin

freneticfox · 26/02/2015 23:56

Definitely going to call GP tomorrow, suspecting silent reflux more and more.

Also had a green nappy earlier, I am hoping GP can reassure me it's nothing too serious or not fixable!

sandulacek · 27/02/2015 00:54

Anyone up starting the feeding marathon? My DH gave her about 60 ml top up hour ago but she's unsettled and just fed for 30 mins. I wonder how soon I can attempt the moses basket!

trukevoli · 27/02/2015 01:17

sand - I have just started the feeding hoping for an easier night then last.

Lochie has reflux and will no doubt soon be having a meltdown but due to being breastfed the Dr won't do anything unless it gets worse. I hate watching him suffer. They just see how much weight he's putting on and think that it can't be that bad.

They have been so shocked about his weight I thought he must be putting on too much, but that's hard to do in breastfed isn't it?

GeekyHybrid · 27/02/2015 02:16

We're up feeding here though it's already better than last night as I've slept 2 hours before the 1 am ish wake up Grin Typical though, he's totally drained one side, gone sparko and shown no interest in the other side so waited 10mins, put him in his basket, he's awake and agitated. But still not ready to feed Confused There's no point attempting to go back to bed until he's finished but he obviously wants a mid session interval. Little sod!

blank like memphis, keeping up with the thread is one of the few things I can efficiently multi task at whilst feeding. I'm also working my way through a backlog of my magazine subscriptions. Brilliant article about baby's brain development in National Geographic Wink Isaac is also enjoying being read to from a book called 'concretopia' about post war town planning. Well, he fell asleep promptly Grin

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Purpletoes · 27/02/2015 02:20

Metoo. Day 4 Alice been feeding since 11! Am wrecked. Every time I try to resettle her in basket she wakes up and demands more.

Currently asleep snuggled into my chest.

Also my ds has just woken up and came into us. Have just resettled him in his bed! Hmm So so tired

freneticfox · 27/02/2015 03:11

I have a non sleeping child tonight. Nothing on this earth will settle him.

There are many tears.. All mine.

Memphisbelly · 27/02/2015 03:16

Frenetic do you think you will eventually mix feed? Firmula takes twice as long fir a baby to process so they usually sleep better, woulf you consider formula top up at night to see if it helps him sleep?

Memphisbelly · 27/02/2015 03:17

Truk don't they give gsviscon for breadtfed babies in your area
. The info my gp printed off about it explained dosage for breastfed babies and how to get it into them also

GeekyHybrid · 27/02/2015 03:36

Finally got him to take the other side. We did try going back to bed but he agitated and my full side ached and leaked. Just changed nappy as well. Hopefully another 10mins and he'll be settled enough to try bed (and sleep) again.

frenetic I'm with memphis on maybe combi feeding. OH
and I have discussed starting a 10pm formula feed if we have many more nights like the one before last, just to get a few hours straight sleep Hmm As my hv says, bf is sodding hard work with no routine to it for quite a while so much depends on what as mothers we can tolerate / survive etc. If I get more

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mrshjb · 27/02/2015 04:47

I always keep up with this thread but don't often have the hands to post! Just wanted to share my expressing story with Frenetic . I also really wanted to breastfeed at the start but DS wouldn't latch at all. We spent the 3 days I was in hospital after birth trying and then I promised I would continue trying when I got home. However, I'd been really ill in the week leading up to me being in hospital, in hospital for a week overall with very little sleep, lost 2200mls of blood during the birth, been in theatre with general anaesthetic to have my placenta removed and was still having issues with my blood pressure. So basically I was on my arse and was really struggling to have the motivation to try and keep shoving my nipple in my crying baby's mouth. Plus DS was only 5lb 5oz at birth and had gone down to under 5lb afterwards and therefore I just wanted him to eat. I decided then to just carry on expressing instead and give up on the idea of breastfeeding. I managed 5 weeks of exclusive expressing and a week of combined feeding and then DS has been fully formula fed since.

Everyone will tell you that expressing is bloody hard work. I didn't struggle with supply at all, in fact it was so painful getting my milk to dry up. But it's so time consuming and the more demanding your baby gets the more difficult it will be to feed them, wind them, change them, entertain them, soothe them, express, cook, clean, wash, sterilise, sleep etc etc etc! I felt so guilty when I started with the formula but it's really changed my life. I was so down when I was expressing and felt stuck in the house, where as now I have miles more time and can go out so much easier. Not to mention can have longer in bed whilst DH feeds DS. I also hated the filling up pain, engorgement and leaking! You may well find you can manage to express for a lot longer than me so massive good luck to you, but don't beat yourself up or be afraid to admit if you're finding it hard.

I personally have found that you get so much pressure to breast feed that you feel like an absolute failure if you can't manage it for whatever reason, but everyone is different and the most important thing is that you are a good mother to your child and are able to look after them to the best of your ability and for me, stopping expressing helped me to do that. Don't beat yourself up if breast feeding doesn't work and focus on the positives like no mastitis, cracked nipples, thrush, cluster feeding for hours on end and feeding every hour or so! Oh and you can eat and drink what you want and actually take medication when you're ill! I'm absolutely convinced that formula fed babies don't suffer (I was FF after 4 weeks and I'm pretty healthy!). Formulas are so well balanced with loads of nutrients in and if they were as bad as people like to make out they wouldn't be available. Brands like cow and gate have been on the market for absolutely ages.

Anyways long ramble over. Good luck to you :)

donkir · 27/02/2015 05:15

I was also determined to breast feed until 6 months but since my supply seems lacking in the afternoon I have introduced 2 bottles of formula. The one at bedtime has been great and he sleeps 6hrs instead of 2/3.
My breast feeding counsellor said to express for 5 mins after every feed to increase my supply which is easier said than done with a little one who is always attached. Your doing amazing with expressing all the time. I definitely couldn't do it.
Stressful weekend here we're moving house. Logan has just slept 3hrs while I've been awake stressing.

blankfornames · 27/02/2015 07:02

Lancashire, firstly..congrats!!

Secondly, the very same thing happened to me. My temperature spiked during labour and I started shaking like crazy. They gave me an antib but I delivered DS too quickly for it to get to him. The hosp were all talk the following day throwing the word meningitus around. I cried for the day. They did a lumber puncture on him and turns out that when they were stetilising my arm before they gave me the drip, they didnt clean well enough and a 'bug'went into my blood culture and started to grow.

It was a very sad and upsetting time and I hope the result is the same for you. Keep us posted x

GeekyHybrid · 27/02/2015 07:16

Need. More. Sleep.

Though 4.5 to 5 is an improvement! Almost reverse of the previous night as awake 1.20 til 3.45. Another hour or two when he finishes now would be great but the way my stomach is rumbling I suspect I'll be heading down for breakfast. So hungry, despite the muesli bar at 2 am.

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freneticfox · 27/02/2015 07:45

Mrshjb - thank you so much for sharing your story. With DH back at work next week I'm already thinking about making the switch. I'm just really worried about regretful feelings, and more guilt. I also have no idea how to go about drying my milk up. It's given me plenty to think about though, and I feel reassured about formula, so thank you, honestly :)

Memphis and Geeky, we have formula and I'm happy to use it for top ups, hadn't considered at night. Think I'll try it though, we didn't end up getting him to settle until around 4am. Am shattered today.

LancashireTea · 27/02/2015 07:49

Baby is now 3 days old and we have had a lovely night. Was having a lot of trouble establishing bf so yesterday I asked the breastfeeding team to come and help me. The mw took one look at my boobs and told me to do it lying down. I need a bit of help latching from her daddy at the start of the feed but we've gone from 5 mins and epic wind 5 mins on other boobs and more wind on a cycle to a single boobs feed that ranges from 25-45 mins with a few big burps, lots of farts and decent sleep in between. She had a 4 hour kip last night! We got sleep! Albeit in the hospital.
OH and baby are currently both snoozing away so I might nip for a shower!

Hope everyone else has a nice morning or had a good night. The signal in here is shocking so trying to read the thread is a nightmare.

tonightsthekindofnight · 27/02/2015 07:51

Another one struggling with feeding here...Both girls seem to want to feed from 4-7pm. It's so hard and one screams while the other feeds as I attempt to make tea for the other two whilst feeding. Then through the night I am up and down every hour.

Really tired this morning and doubting myself big time. What if I just can't cope.

Sorry for the completely unhelpful post.

Memphisbelly · 27/02/2015 07:51

Geeky go and get some food.... Being Tired and hungry is rubbish

Frenetic I rckon mixed feeding is the way to go. Don't fill yourself with guilt over something you cannot control. Beating yourself up over it won't change matters but just make you feel rubbish. Drying up your milk is just a case of dosing up on pain killers and not touching your boobs as touch stimulates the milk production

Popsicle30 · 27/02/2015 08:09

Hi all. I hope you've all managed some sleep or you're fast asleep now.

I've been a bit quieter the past day or so but only on contributing. Her sleep/feeding is all over the place. Has cluster feeding in the night and day... So tired! Last night wasn't as bad although I thought I was in for one. She fed on and off from 10until about 3-4pm (got about 2hrs kip across that time) and then slept until after 7. The problem I'm finding at the moment is putting her down. As soon as her sleeping head hits the Moses basket she wakes. I'm wondering if it's reflux as she starts making some strange noises and stretching out her body as through she's uncomfortable. This leads to her wanting a feed again (possibly more for comfort), drinking till she falls asleep then waking again when I put her down. She eventually will fall asleep in there but the cycle can go on for up to 2hrs! She sleeps fine in her Moses basket in the day though...

I'm going to my first breast feeding group today. I'm wanting to look at expressing to allow for some flexibility. mind you I have also considered formula wondering whether it'd help her to sleep longer.. ?

Frenetic you're doing so well with the expressing. I don't know whether I'd have been able to do it. Formula is always an option but it depends on how you feel. I'm considering formula and I don't have to constantly express.

Everyone is doing so well. The thread helps to know it isn't just you struggling.

Congrats to Lancashire too!

loopsyloup · 27/02/2015 08:10

Tonights - don't worry, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it soon. Is there anyone you can ask to come and help with tea in the evenings so that you can concentrate on feeding?

Donk good luck with the move!

Had a stressful week here as my dd1 who is nearly 3 has been having tantrums and we've had some real struggles to get her dressed or getting her to eat dinner. Weds night dp and I had a good talk about it and worked out a strategy - and we realised we'd probably been too lenient since dd2 arrived, and now feeling much better after a good day with her yesterday. Dd2 thankfully has so far been a dream baby, feeding and sleeping well (touch wood). Off for lunch with dd2 and my oldest bestest friend today. Feel bad about being pleased to have time off dd1 (dp isn't working today so he's got her).