October 2014.. Thread 7.. Teeth, tantrums & tickles

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Hope this works ?

Needed new thread, dont know if anyone else made one?

Was waiting for someone to start a new thread. I didn't want to be OP Thanks stigz

Munday: What I hate is being told to "just re-settle" after 45 mins- HOW?!?

My DD still has her daytime naps in the bouncy chair. Not unusual that she wakes several times and I just reinsert dummy and bounce her back to sleep.

This morning's nap has gone:

9.15am: feed, dummy, bouncy chair, bounced for 10 minutes
Me: shower, still asleep so blow dried hair, still asleep so styled hair.
9.45 ish: Woke crying. I came downstairs, put dummy in and bounced for 10 mins and she went back to sleep.
Me: Washing in and tumble drier emptied
10.15am: Woke again, dummy in and bounced.
Me: Sat on sofa in front of her with tea and mumsnet. Will bounce should she stir.

So she has been asleep for about 2 hours now. Not solidly though, with short wake-ups that need settling. Sometimes she sleeps solidly without needing settling, but definitely not always.

Splendide - Why the bad day today? Have a duvet on the sofa day - these fix everything

I'm not sure Fate. I'm a bit nervous about his (late!) 12 week jabs later maybe it's that. I'll be ok, just feel so low and flat.

Thanks for the new thread STIGZ
FATE she's only slept in her bouncy chair two or three times. Also she's getting a bit big for it now!
DH took the day off due to me crying at 5am with tiredness. He's just said nap times are "a piece of piss!" Nevermind hopefully today will be a good sleep day.

Hi ladies, just wanted to say i'm still here and not a prolific facebook user either. Definitely want to keep posting, and using this thread. Love reading your up-dates.

Health visitor just left and celebrating as baby betty is now back on the 25th percentile. Its been a cause of stress for me after it dropped so much, but after a tongue tie snip and transfer to cows milk protein formula, something seems to be finally working!

Was also a stress as we found she has two little holes in her heart, and 'failure to thrive' can mean intervention needed (an operation maybe), so very relieved.

Been thinking for a while it would be good to share settling tips - baby betty is mostly sleeping through from 9 or 10 pm to 7 am ish. She is formula fed though. Be interesting to see how others settle - would like to get napping in the day better, and earlier to bed.

Will post what i do when i'm back home from pilates (new thing. Am so creaky)

• cows milk protein FREE formula

This is how I settle baby betty at night (she definitely cant self-settle yet);

1. ensure room is as dark as it can be, so i can still see, but barely
2. put into gro bag sleeping thing
3. hold her up against my shoulder and sooth. She mostly wriggles for a bit and body-pops until she becomes more still. Has dummy all throughout this.
4. don't actually talk to her at all during this time, or at any point at night because i think it excites her
5. hold her like this for anything from 10 to 25/25 mins until alseep, or almost
6. put her in cot as though she is a china doll
7. she usually wakes after a short period and i repeat the above anything from once to five times. Trying new thing of stroking head whilst still in cot to settle

New to mumsnet and just found this group. Do you take new folk?!

Oh good idea Betty, interesting.

Bedtime -
This all happens in the living room with the telly on. I breastfeed then DH gives him his bottle till there's about an oz left.
Then into his sleeping bag.
Then drape a muslin over his head while he finishes.
Dummy in and either straight into his sleepyhead (on the sofa) or some rocking/ swaying first.
Normally asleep by 8.

I usually go to bed at this point (!) then DH carries his up in his sleepyhead and puts him in the co sleeper about 10/10.30.

Then it's a lottery! Sometimes he sleeps till 5 (ok he's only done this twice) sometimes earlier. Last three nights it's been 1.30.

Definitely take new people, welcome!

Welcome flake !

Welcome flake we deffo need new additions as everyone is away to facebook

Do you have an october baba?

Oh hello flake

Bedtime starts 7.00 to 7.30:

Bath (not every night, probably 3 times a week)
Fat creases sudocreamed
Vest & sleepsuit on (with obligatory crying when pulling arms in)
Sleeping bag on and dummy attached to sleeping bag.
Cradle hold and feed (7oz formula) whilst on my bed
Wind for a minute or two - rarely burps but still feel obliged to check
Lay in cot awake, dummy in
Strapped down with tightly tucked in blanket around legs
Light off & leave by 8.00pm at latest

Haven't really posted anymore but thought I'd join back in.

We start at 18ºº with a bath, ideally later but he just gets so overtired
bath (most nights unless it's not needed I'm to lazy )
sudo on bum and powder chubby neck and folds
vest & sleepsuit on
go into nursery, lights off, sleepylight on
sit on the little sofa and feed 7oz
swaddle and tuck in tight, give dummy
sit next to him, read a story
night night, light off door closed

9/10 he goes to sleep happily by 19ºº.
Everything before 7am is night time, so no talking or anything fun (that sounds so boring)
He has one feed anywhere between 1am and 4am, used to be 7oz but now reducing till feed is dropped.

reading back that sounds like he'll sleep 7-7, I wish! There's normally 3-4 dummy moments from 5am onwards :/

Bedtime starts at 6.30ish.

Put warm hot water bottle in her Sleepyhead.
Bath most nights - just because she loves it, and it doesn't seem to wind her up that much.
Dress in PJ type clothes - I've tried to definitely change clothes every night whether bath or not.
Lights off, 'nightlight' on (it's a headtorch facing upwards), feed while sitting on bed next to crib. Wake her up several times to make sure she eats a fair bit. Wind her over my shoulder - this also checks she's asleep and floppy.
Put into bed, she stays asleep and mostly stays there until I go to bed at half 9.

I should say that this isn't a long term thing... it's quite recent. But we've done the above for awhile resulting in only a nap at 7.

She's a right crabby boot today though - bedtime has already started.

Just had to have a conversation with boyfriend about how the reason I'm tired by this time of day is because I STOP her crying, not just try to get on with my life listening to her crying, which he seems to think is an alright way of doing things. Grrr.

Hello ladies! I've lurked on the last couple of threads (and mostly lurk on FB too). I love the pace and anonymous nature of the thread, so though I'd de-lurk to say hello!

Love reading all the bedtime routines - similar here (though fits around the older kids who have a bath every night so timing depends on them). I feed her to sleep flat on her back on the bed (dh in the spare room through the week as he gets up at 5am for work). She reliably goes 8-2.30am ish with 1-3 wake ups after that. I like having my evenings back (though mostly work from home in the evenings...).

Munday I've always gone a similar thing to Fate with daytime naps but using the buggy not a seat (none of my 3 ever slept in their bouncy seats). I push it or rock it at the slightest stirring (I also drap a blanket or muslin over it to block out distractions). Over time the babies learn to sleep through the sleep cycles and you can reliably get an hour and a half or more. Dd2 ends up sleeping in her car seat more than her brother and sister ever did when we lived in London as she has to fit in with preschool run every day!

Hello Flake come and join in how have you been coping so far?
Had a much better napping day with DH helping. Just trying to get her to bed now, my nipple is being yanked all over the place

Hello all. Yip, oct baby here (boy). My second. Ideally he is down at 7pm however since this has happened all of 4 times I wouldn't call it a trend
He has been a bit chesty and not feeding great past couple of days. Husband just home from oversea trip so I am about to drink wine and eat takeaway. Signing off main childcare duties until Monday I think
With regards settling, I was utterly rigid with no.1 (Gina F lite). This time I have no plans other than sleep every 1.5-2 hours, and max sleep total in day around 3-3.5 hours, usually in 3-4 naps.
Not really managing anything to do with a cot......

Those of you who do a fairly quick settle and put down, how have you gotten to that point? What have been your techniques if they have woken when put down etc. this one mostly sleeps through, it takes aaaaaaages to actually get her down and settled...

Hello Flip - nice to see another new poster.

Is your little one DC3? How old are your others?

Oh, I like this one.

We take her nappy off at about six thirty and we do some songs and half arsed baby massage till she starts to get cross, which is usually around 7. Then dp gives her a bath and brings her upstairs, I put her in her sleeping bag and give her a feed while dp reads to us. She dozes off and hours in her crib and either sleeps through till about 4.30 when she has a quick feed and goes back down till about 7.30, or wakes up after ten minutes and commences the groundhog day nightmare of repeated inexplicable wakings.

During the day, if we're at home, then as soon as she starts looking snoozy we go upstairs, draw the curtains, she has a feed, then goes into her crib usually awake but sleepy, and gets shushed until she either gives in to sleeping or needs to be resettled- usually takes about three goes. She normally naps for about 45 minutes.

Does anyone have any good suggestions about what to do to prevent sore hands from excess chewing?

Betty - When we manage a quick settle and zzzz in the day I think it's mostly because I spotted his signs of being tired early on. As soon as he actually gets proper tired I'm to late and there will most likely be crying :(
In the evening I think it's the routine that helps him. Once he's all tucked in snugly I sit with him and read a story, he really likes it and it seems to get him in a calm and snoozy state

Is anyone else still swaddling? Im absolutely terrified of having to stop it. Tried a few times but it's been a nightmare. As soon as he has a free hand he slaps his dummy out and gets into a right state... rather then self settling at night he just wakes up properly by slapping himself in the face :s