October 2014.. Thread 7.. Teeth, tantrums & tickles

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Hope this works ?

I might try a Muslim over her pram tomorrow and see how we get on. DH seems better at naps than me- maybe I smell too much of milk for her to resist chunky monkey that she is
Lovely to hear from a few lurkers as well

Fate lol at being a new poster! I was on the very first antenatal thread (and all of the rest until a couple of post natal threads ago when lurking just became the easier option). Threads always slow down as babies age (this is my third MN group) but the FB effect is definitely stronger now. FB is fine, but moves kind of fast for me. I'm in the U.S. so there's a time difference that throws things off too. DS will be 5 in March, Dd1 will be 3 in March and dd2 was born on 10 Oct (a busy day for the thread - there are I think 5 thread babies born that day).

Sounds good. I might try a little story time with her maybe, sounds really sweet.

tatty maybe little mittens or socks over the little paws for a bit? Mine also a chomper at the moment, on my fingers, mostly. She keeps 'asking' for help in sitting up, so i help by pulling up her little forearms and she has a little chomp on my fingers when she reaches the top, as a reward

Dutch my LO gets very annoyed when her a stray hand punches her in the face! No idea how to stop her

Oh. We appear to be having one of the dicking about nights here. I really hope a bigger cot helps because I honestly don't know what to do otherwise.

In the 15 minutes before I got called to help, she cried and screamed more than I've ever heard her do it before. Really weird. It's been a trying day with grumpiness, so I'm thinking she's not well - bit snotty etc. Then half an hour after going to bed she woke up doing the scream that calls all the neighbourhood dogs.

Do babies have nightmares?

Yah is for the new thread stigz!
Dutch my friend totally swaddled for ages, 6 months plus I think. She also was terrified of stopping!

Sometimes the day naps go well sometimes not. Like Dutch if I spot him needing a nap it goes ok but if I leave it too late then not so great. He naps maybe 3-4 times a day anything from 45mins to an hour and a half. It's rare to get him past the magic 45 mins.

Bahahahahaaaa I love autocorrect sometimes! No idea what yah is. I think I wanted to just say thanks for the new thread!

Mine sometimes screams in her sleep. I think maybe she's haunted? Actually that would explain a lot.

Love reading the different paths to snoozesville. Here's our nighttime one:

Bath on at 7. Sproglet dunked by 7.15. Back to sitting room for nappy and clean sleepsuit. dH can't resist blowing rasps on M's little body at this point which leads to much laughter and an overexcited baby (grrr). M totally knows the routine by this point and as the sleepsuit is put on usually starts some grumpy crying to say hurry the F up. Taken upstairs to room by DH who gives an 8oz bottle (BF otherwise). After bottle into sleeping bag and cot, usually by 7.45 latest. Lights out and DH joins me in the kitchen for some wine guzzling. We are INCREDIBLY lucky that M so far doesn't need help settling, has been bunged in cot andleft to it since 6 weeks old. We basically make the environment as nice as possible and make sure all the boxes are ticked (full, warm, quiet) and he's got on with it. I do always tell him I want him to go to sleep tho as I kiss him goodnight! Fingers crossed it continues.

Naps: ah, naps. Until this week he spent all daytime sleep out and about in his pram and I get some epic sleeps out of him (usually 2.5hrs in the morning). I love going out and the few times in Dec when I tried to enforce a nap at home he threw a fit and I wobbled. He's bot the type to bod off anywhere or on me (at least not since a newborn). Decided to take the bull by the horns this week as was getting tired of heftin pram in and out of house (bad back and we're an upstairs flat) and i'm starting work in April and can't expect the childminder to have to push his highness around just to get him to sleep. So what i've done this week: 1hr 45 after waking into darkened bedroom, either a small book or boob, sleeping bag and into cot. Kiss kiss and door shut. He's been asleep within ten mins so a bit slower than his nighttime nodding off. Only once has he whinged and that was for 6 mins. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Def' less confident about naps.

Hello I'd like to join too please! Have October bub. She's no 2. So you'd think I'd have it all sussed and an amazing bedtime routine. No. Not even close. I seem to be stuck in a nightly three hour feed to sleep nonsense followed by about a million wake ups and feeds throughout the night. Oh and DC1 who's just 18 months older has decided he doesn't need a nap in the day anymore... Tired doesn't even touch it! Ho hum :)

Dutch, can you gradually reduce the swaddle? So try one arm out for a while? Or pin the dummy close to the collar so if it falls ot baby might learn to find it and re-insert? I don't think there is an age limit on swaddling but there is a risk I guess once they start rolling...

fatpony that sounds amazing! Right. Need to try and implement a few things (but relax if nothing works - babies are babies after all).

Tomorrow I will: Keep better eye out for tiredness. Attempt dark room and cot for naps. Try not to let her nap on me for too long. Try story at bedtime

goats I read that babies do have nightmares

Hello, returning lurker here too - hiya Flip

Had my gallstone op almost three weeks ago, only just able to lift DS again now. Has been tough on DP doing solo nights while on deadline so working long days. My DM & DSis had DS during the days and I missed him horribly, but was utterly stoned on painkillers, no way I could care for him.

This is a timely return - our nights have nosedived recently ??
DS has never had a routine due to our illnesses - we've both been in and out of hospital. Just recently (in the last fortnight!) we'd succeeded in getting him down to sleep around 8pm, waking for a dream feed around midnight then he would rarely be up again before 8am. Spoiled, I know. Thought we'd cracked it and really enjoyed having a short time for us in the evenings.
Then the last three nights he's fussed until 10 or 11 pm, then slept until 5 or 6, and has woken a few times through the night. We're both a bit broken. Is this the dreaded 4mth sleep regression (he is 20wks, born 4wks prem in September so 16wks corrected)?
He's in his Snuzpod next to me now, cooing, giggling, being adorable but not sleeping. Gah!

Hi Bex, Flake and Dutch, welcome to the madhouse :)
Our night-time ritual is similar to Pony's, H gets a bath in the living room about 6.30, then lullabies as I massage Diprobase onto her dry bits, nappy and onesie on, then I carry her upstairs into our dark bedroom with hall light on and door partly open, zipped into her sleeping bag and then fed to sleep with Ewan the sheep's lullaby, then transfer to her basket and switching Ewan over to white noise. This is all done in about an hour, if/when she does the 45 minute wakeup I give her her dummy and she sleeps til around 5.30-6.30. Another feed and she sleeps til about 9. 13-14 seems a lot for a night's sleep but as her naps aren't long in the day I figure I should just leave it? Or should I try to get her to nap for longer in the day?

Goats after H's jabs on Tuesday had been clusterfeeding late afternoon, she fell asleep for a while and then stirred with a God-awful howl and trembling lip and tears - but was still half asleep, a wee nightmare about the jabs maybe, she did the same after her first set.

Sorry meant to say 13-14 hrs. Welcome back Flip and Slide, hope you're feeling better Slide, does sound like the sleep regression, H had hers a month early the wee scamp; hopefully it will pass quickly for you, you deserve a break!

Slide [waves] glad that the op went ok but it must have been tough going. Hope the sleep sorts itself out soon (it will, but sleep deprivation is even worse when you've had some good nights to compare it to!).

Hi slide and flip nice to have you back on here and vocal
Mmmm bedtime routine...still a bit hit and miss but I think I've worked out he definitely prefers a 7 bedtime not an 8... It's just harder working around bedtime for ds2 and dinner etc.
For us it seems if I do dinner for me and the ds at 5 (which may seem early to others perhaps but im always starving anyway!!) and a little power feed for N around then, then up to bath at 6ish (fling in the bigger ds after and out and into pjs) then into sleep suit and sleeping bag and then more feeding and hopefully asleep by 7ish. Pop into snuzpod next to me and hope he stays settled. Down nights he has, some nights he stirs and I go up and feed more or try and put dummy in. I do this while ds1 plays in his room or watches a cbeebies programme otherwise he wants to come in and ask a million questions! Then it's ds1 turn with stories teeth cleaning and into bed for half 7/8. DH isn't really ever home until 8-8.30 so he eats when he gets in and I lie slumped on the sofa!

Nights are still terrible. But I can't be bothered to got there!

Well I think I'll book A in for jabs every week! He went to sleep at 8, woke at 3.30 for a feed back down at 4 and he's just stiring now. Nice!

Haaaaaaargg, cry.

Between 10 and 3.30 I got about 40 minutes sleep. Then gave up and put the snotty beast in with me. Still woke at 6 for food then 7 for getting up. Zzzzzzz...

fatpony we've tried one arm out but as soon as I leave his room he goes batshit crazy with that arm haha
I'm now swaddling in this weird new way where he lies on top of the triangle shaped swaddle and I tuck each corner over his arm and under bum. So his body isn't swaddled. Every day I give his arms some more space, hopefully that will work.

good to hear about your swaddling friend sazzle maybe I just need to wait until his eye hand coordination is a bit less uh slappy

I really feel for all the non sleepers, it definitely is a form of torture. I had to wait 15 mins this morning for DD to stop pooing- it was everywhere. Had to hose her down

Betty the daytime naps are hit and miss but I figure better to keep trying and he'll soon learn the routine and what is expected. For example this morning I wasn't actually sure what time he woke - was up at 6am, fed and back down but not sure whether he went back to sleep, got him up at 7. As a result prob missed his sleep window and by the time I out him into cot at 8.25 he was crying...it's worked before when he goes in not crying and quite cheerful. So he only slept 25 mins but has been quite cheerful after. He woke 9.10 so by my reckoning I'm going to take him up again at 10.50. Sounds a lot of faff but he doesn't just nod off anywhere when tired so I feel I have to make the effort.

Ps some of you mentioned powdering/sudocreme go your baby's fat rolls. Is his something we should be doing? His chubby little thigh rolls seem to collect dirt and dead skin so I do wash his legs and dry each fold but should I be putting talcum on?