October 2014.. Thread 7.. Teeth, tantrums & tickles

[STIGZ]

Hope this works ?

Hope all the babies are behaving themselves (ie sleeping!). Just getting dd2 down to sleep while dh reads stories to the older kids. We've had a busy day so looking forward to catching up on my freelance work tomorrow. Supposed to snow more so a good day to hole up indoors.

Bex lol at the shed. If we had that choice I'm sure I'd have suggested the same!

Buttwing house viewing plus small baby and young kids must be hard.

flip I'm guessing you're abroad!! Either that or you having a very late bedtime routine going on

Well I'm on my first wake up if the night having finally got her to sleep at 9.30pm. She woke up as soon as I put her down tonight but I sat with her while she had a wriggle and after a few minutes she fell asleep of her own accord! What a trooper, no drama or crying.
She's like clockwork at the moment, 4hrs sleep followed by 2hrs and another 2hrs. I feed at every waking because it's the fastest way to settle her! Don't have the energy or will power to do anything else. I nearly always give up putting in her the cot by the end of the night too. She ends up on or next to me. Anything to get the most amount of sleep in the shortest time possible! Anyone else still doing this?

Err yes I'm in the states so 9.05pm here! I feed dd2 at every wake - she sleeps right next to me all night. She wakes a similar amount to yours (though last few nights have had more frequent wake ups).

And here I am again!

Worst thing about having two is that I've just started feeding DD but I can hear DS crying out (very unusual these days) but obviously I can't go to him. DH has gone to sort him out but I feel bad it's not me.

Well it's another night at the all you can eat buffet for my greedy boy. Mixed in with a nice game of "get your parents out of bed every hour on the hour screaming as if you are hungry but then fall back asleep as soon as they pick you up" just for good measure. So just to pass time at 4.30am can I ask..

1. Do you ladies whose babies sleep well dream feed? We tried it at 10.30pm for 3 nights when he was about 10 weeks old. Dark room etc and he took it well but he still woke up 3 hours later for his next feed as normal!! so felt like we were almost then encouraging the waking up iykwim? wonder should we have persevered with it?
2. What is everyone dressing their babies in for bed atm? I'm in the uk, We have a newish house so not excessively cold and we don't have the heating on over night. I am sending him to sleep (in his own cot) in a long sleeve vest, long sleeve sleep suit (with mitts turned over) and a 2.5 sleeping bag. Beginning to wonder if he is waking a lot because of being cold as I have just been in and his hands had escaped from the mitts and they felt cold....

Of course I am clutching at straws. He's just a non sleeping greedy pants but it makes me feel better to pretend I can fix this

Hope everyone is snoring away blissfully.....

Morning sherbert i dress little miss the same as you but she also has a cellular blanket over the top. Our house is a bit chilly in the small hours and she seems to be just right with that. Of course she doesn't sleep any better than yours so you might as well ignore me!! Cold hands are really common, better to check their chest/back of neck to feel if they're cold. Never did dream feeds but my sisters baby sleeps really well (10pm - 6am six weeks younger than mine and a tiny dot too!) and he doesn't have a dream feed. To be honest I think it's just luck of the draw whether they sleep well or not, my DS eventually slept through at 9 months and it didn't become a regular occurrence until he was over a year old so I'm trying not to fret over it yet. Still it's hard to accept when you're not getting much sleep yourself and it feels like everyone else has got some magic trick you've not discovered yet!!

Morning all! We have been experimenting with not feeding at every wake - if it's been less than 90mins or so she gets the dummy first, and that often puts her back to sleep. We're better about this before midnight than after - at 3am the magic boob is oh so tempting. I can't say it seems to be making much difference in her ability to self settle or to stop waking up but (hurrah!) DH can do it, which takes some of the pressure off me.

I have a question. C is generally not a sicky baby but the last week or so she's been bringing up milk after quite a few feeds each day. Sometimes undigested, sometimes a bit curdled. It's not very much and it doesn't usually seem to bother her but I thought by this age they were supposed to be getting better at controlling their digestive systems, not worse. Any ideas, oh wise ones?

thanks errrr2012 - i do feel abit like maybe I'm doing something wrong but I think you are right it might just be the way he is. My daughter was sleeping through at 13 weeks but she was a total moany baby when awake and I will say that for all his nocturnal activities he's a very placid happy baby when awake! Suppose you can't win them all!

I feel your pain too with having two and not being able to get to your older one - my DH husbands works away now and again and it is Sod's law that DD wakes up just as in settling DS...it's like Sophie's Choice here sometimes!

DS doesn't sleep brilliantly but I can say he slept better when we stopped disrupting his sleep with a dream feed. I really think it depends on the child though, I had high hopes once he took a bottle and was planning nice long sleep while DH fed him at 11 but it doesn't work for us!

Last night he went to sleep at 8, had a couple of wakings but went back to sleep himself after some grumbling and cooing then woke at 2 for a feed then 6 then up at 8. So good really but I'm awake loads more than him unfortunately! He's so noisy!

Ridiculous night here, we're at MILs and dh was on a night out. Dd2 took 2 hours to settle for bed, slept for 45 mins so I could have dinner, woke and that was pretty much it, resisted all transfers to the travel cot after that. She slept for about 2 hours in bed beside me then dh came home hammered and was up having tea and crumpets with MIL at half 3. Eventually said fuck it and dd2 and I got up too for tea. Was kind of nice and dd2 was full of smiles.
Then it took me an hour and a half to get her to settle in travel cot - obviously couldn't put her in bed with us once drunk dh was in there snoring away

Something must be done! I'm trying to figure out a game plan for when we return home. Sick of this now.

Oh dear Greenstone I bet you're tired today. Not so D H is up having a nap with the baby. Apparently he wasn't drunk last night...must be someone else I'm thinking of today then

God i have been through the ringer today, my wee brother got badly beaten up last night by a thug, honestly didnt know if he was alive as i got a phone call to say he had been taken away in an ambulance, he is alive thank god but looks as though he has done 20 rounds with mike tyson he is very lucky !

Baby has been so demanding, didnt stop yesterday hosting dd's birthday etc... i am mentally exhausted

Oh stigz that's awful. Your poor brother. Has the person who did it been caught?

We're in full baby cold mode. She's so miserable- her little face is all puffy and just so much snot. Dp currently has her bundled up inside the front of his dressing gown like a little kangaroo while we try and get her through to the next calpol dose.

Oh STIGZ you must be exhausted. I'm sorry to hear about your brother, I hope the scumbags get caught.

Stigz how awful . Hope your brother heals hope and they catch who did it.

Oh no stigz sounds horrid hope he's ok soon and they catch the arseholes.

bexster I'm another feed to sleep without trying anything else. Well I sometimes try the dummy but he goes nuts at it, whereas in the day he doesn't mind it. In fact N is so often awake after 2am (every hour, sometimes sooner ) I normally give in and just let him lie across me snacking on my exposed nipples. Classy.

I'm so tired tonight I'm hitting bed at 8. Cannot wait!!

Sazzle I hope an early night gets you a few extra hours sleep. I did that last night and it was amazing until DH (dickhead) rolled in drunk.
He's still feeling delicate now no sympathy from me and bubs!

Is there a time limit on tiredness whereby you just hit a wall? I've been managing quite well on limited sleep for the last 4 months, but suddenly the last 3 days I've been absolutely zonked. Feel mentally exhausted. Maybe I'm just about to get ill, or maybe period is about to arrive (have period type pain)... maybe I've just got a 4 month old baby and this is normal. Urgh. Been so effing cold all day, which is no doubt due to being so tired.

I'm with the feeding to sleep camp, too. I mean, I wait to see if she'll settle herself, and if she's sleep and she wakes up as I put her down then I'll give her a shush and a pat, but basically it's feed to sleep. I feel like the downsides are outweighed by the positives, although that might change.

goats I get that sometimes. I think it's just having absolutely nothing in reserve, so even tiny things can tip me from functional to incomprehensible with exhaustion.

Uh oh... we've got a roller... just went right over back to front then front to back then back to front... then screamed. My days of leaving her in the middle of my bed while I have a shower are over.

Uh oh Ohthegoats! And so it begins...! I remember with DC1 that 6 months was like a brick wall just unbelievable with the tiredness. But I have already had days where I've felt beyond it all already. I suppose we shouldn't forget that we were pregnant for around 9 months, gave birth which has to be a huge drain whichever way you did it, and it's supposed to take a year for you to recover yet we are constantly on the go, continually being deprived of sleep and in some cases breastfeeding too which is another drain... You could also be coming down with something / fighting something off. It is winter :(

Tattyblue and sazzlehopes - phew! Glad it's not just me :) All settled in here for the LONNNNG feed-to-sleep. Fingers crossed for the night and for everyone else!

I do the three dummies to each feed rule at night.

Upon first waking up DD gets the dummy. Often that settles her back to sleep. If not, I try with another two dummy re-insertions. If that hasn't got her back to sleep then it's a feed.

I also work on the easiest way to get the most sleep idea too.

I have a co-sleeper cot so dummy insertion involves just reaching an arm out without even opening eyes. So I always go for that option first.

Thanks girls, yeah the animal who done it is in jail thank god or i wouldn't be responsible for my actions

That is so true bex a women's body & mind go through a lot pre & post pregnancy, i always remind my dp of this plus the fact of dealing with artificial hormones etc from contraception but worth getting your iron levels checked goats i was majorly iron deficient after my first baby and didnt realise till she was one year old as i thought the exhaustion was normal being a new mum

Have to say dummies not working at night at all here. Dd will accept one but it just makes her wakeful and restless and she just watches me and sucks! They are great for car journeys but just not a goer at night.

Stigz so sorry about your brother, you must be beside yourself.
goats yes definitely to the wall of tiredness. Think of that massive sleep deficit the day of birth and from then on it takes a long time to catch up. Wish this was more recognised.
flip how is your 2 year old doing? Pneumonia must have been so frightening.