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October 2014.. Thread 7.. Teeth, tantrums & tickles

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STIGZ · 05/02/2015 10:46

Hope this works ?Hmm

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Sherbetdip1 · 06/02/2015 18:17

waving hello as a newbie too! can I join? I have a 15 week old boy (and 3yr old girl)...have been following you guys from my first night on maternity ward but too scared to say hello but I am getting so much out of reading about your lo's and the ups and downs that I figure someone might get the same from me...Smile?

DS was born with dilated kidneys and had been suffering from reflux which (after a long battle with GP Angry) we are now treating with omeprazole...went from a miserable screamer to a nice calm boy within a week, we were getting nice long sleeps at night, all going well etc etc and then he got a kidney infection. Poor thing was hospitalised and having been woken up every two hours for obs for a week and taken off his omeprazole we are now walking zombies in sleep deprived hell lol. It's buggered us up and he's been home 2 weeks with no sign of it improving - feeds every 2.5 hours all through the night from 7, is wide awake after every feed (cue hours of rocking/shhing etc) and thinks 4.30am is rise and shine time...sob.

Actually, reading that back not sure anyone will get much from that moanfest ha ha!

Hello anyway Grin

sazzlehopes · 06/02/2015 18:29

Hello all lurkers and newbies! Yay for this thread picking up... I'm not in the fb thread and was worried this one was going to get all tumbleweed!

flip hi! Love that you want to hear about N...and not in a stalker way, how sweet of you. Do you mean because he had a dicey entry into life?!!!

sherbet welcome. This thread has been ace. Full of help and good listening ears when actually you just want to moan. Sorry you are having a terrible time with the sleep, how cruel after having it so good for so long! Is he struggling because you're still off the omprezole? Or is his sleep wrecked from the hospital stint?

Buttwing · 06/02/2015 18:53

We've just taken the kids to pizza express for tea babywing was not happy to sit in his car seat so was on my knee he has red wine (was a very small glass!)on his top and I managed to drop a mushroom on his head Blush

Got home and ds1 slipped on kitchen floor and has an egg on his head! Hmm not 0/10 for me on the good mummy front today :)

Greenstone · 06/02/2015 19:02

May as well jump in - I popped in to day hi on one of the previous threads but haven't been back since. Dd2 was a Halloween baby, so 14 weeks now and I too have a 3 year old.

Major sympathies on the hospital stay - we've had our own stint in hospital and it was mega hard. She was on antibiotics which have left her digestive system very sensitive, nappies are often very runny and a bit mucusy
Dd also has reflux - the pukey kind as opposed to the silent kind. No meds so far as the HCPS around here seem to want to let nature take its course and see how we are once solids are involved.

I'm dribbling with envy at all of the good sleepers - sleep shot to shite here after about a week of decent performance. She did a 5 hour stretch last night but only because she was in bed with me which is a bit annoying because we have a bloody Co sleeper cot, she just won't go in her own bit!

So tbh I've found this to be a hard old slog of a winter: demanding 3 year old and super high maintenance baby plus winter plus me their mother who is naturally introverted and would give my right arm for a whole day of being alone with tea and books....awkward combo. But I do regularly kick myself up the arse and remember how lucky I am so there's that Smile

Been enjoying the chat so glad that the thread is being salvaged!

FlipFantasia · 06/02/2015 19:21

Sazzle it is because of N's entry but also because of your attitude to things (even in the midst of sleep deprivation!).

Weaning is interesting - no link to waking a lot/introducing solids (which makes sense when you think of the tiny amounts their ingesting initially). It's just the four month sleep regression means desperate times, desperate measures! I've done baby led weaning with my older ones and loved it. Waited until they seemed ready (about 23/24 weeks) and then they just had whatever we were having (I did just cut right back on salt - no bad thing for me as I love the stuff!). I would preload spoons and hand them over (but not spoon feed) so Greek yogurt and porridge was offered from early on.

Course first time I was well smug - oh my boy won't be picky or a fussy eater. And parents of older kids would smile indulgently at my blind faith. Because of course he hit 18 months and started refusing all recognisable veg and refusing to try things. At nearly five he is still picky, and I hide veg in his pesto (he would eat it every night if he could). In fact I have savoury cheddar courgette muffins baking as I type (I add veg to anything I can get away with!). I'm hoping the baby takes after her big sis and eats anything...

FlipFantasia · 06/02/2015 19:27

Sherbet wow, what a lot to go through. Is he off meds because of his kidneys?

Buttwing wine on the head - better there than on your clothes!

Greene you've also been through the mill! I've also struggled this winter, it is so cold here (outside NYC - a high of -7 today), snow and ice everywhere. The baby being a baby while the older kids need me too. It's been a real turning point since christmas (even though two weeks ago my 2 year old was hospitalised with pneumonia). I feel a lot happier and am coping better. I had been doing the edinburgh scale regularly as I was worried about pnd and I'm on a run of being happier (now dd2 just needs to sleep longer!).

FATEdestiny · 06/02/2015 19:33

Got my first back to front rolls today Smile

First one witnessed not by me, but my 5 year old - who was super excited. Once she did one, no stopping her.

Sherbetdip1 · 06/02/2015 19:33

Thank you! I really have no idea what's gone wrong. I was pretty calm to start thinking once he was home and we got back into a routine/introduced the omeprazole again things would improve...um no. We had some hideous nights so began to try and troubleshoot abit (growth spurt, teething pain, too much/too little day sleep and lots of other clutching at straws) but every night it's the same. So now I'm feeling resigned to the fact that il never sleep again sob. I think someone else mentioned on here about lying awake waiting for the next wake up - well that's me atm. sometimes it takes so long to get him off after a wake up that it's not even worth me going back to sleep as it's almost time for a feed again! to be fair DH is amazing and does more than his fair share but we are both cream crackered now...and with a 3 year old and two school runs a day to do I can't get much rest in the day. On plus side iv lost 11lbs since christmas as don't have time to eat ha ha. every cloud!

is there anyway this can be a VERY long period of growth spurt?! He's 15 weeks tomorrow and drinking an insane amount of milk...I appear to have blocked out this time with DD

MundayCakes85 · 06/02/2015 19:38

Wow so many of you have had such hard/ scary times it makes my 4am groundhog day seem a cake walk.
This thread has helped so much as a FTM, not sure what I'd have done during those long, cold nights Smile
Re: weaning I'm not sure if she's ready but she loves watching us eat and is starting to grab my choccy biccies things so may buy some baby rice and try that.

Sherbetdip1 · 06/02/2015 19:44

Ps greenstone big sympathies we are getting the worst nappies here too! Poo up to his neck on more than one occasion - he has more outfit changes a day than kim kardashian! I know how you are feeling with having the other children as well - I'm having major guilts about how little i do with DD. Thank god for Cebeebies that's all I can say. People said it would be easier the second time but honestly I am finding it harder so far...Sad

Greenstone · 06/02/2015 20:24

Me too sherbert. I seem to manage conception pregnancy and birth just fine but woah do I get demon babies on the other side!

It will pass, I know. I'm trying not to wish this time away but keep finding myself doing it!

FreiasBathtub · 06/02/2015 20:34

Hello everyone - another longtime lurker seizing the moment and joining in. My daughter, C, was born on 31 Oct so is exactly 14 weeks today. She was oxygen deprived during the birth so was in intensive care for a week but seems fine with no obvious signs of brain damage. We had big problems breastfeeding which along with the difficult start pushed me into PND but I am doing much better now thanks to a fab DH, a very good health visitor and lots and lots of lovely drugs.

C is an absolute delight and my parents keep telling me what an easy baby she is, though I think they might feel a bit differently if they were on three hourly wakeups every night for three months. At the moment our big battle is bedtime - sounds like I have that in common with lots of you guys - she takes about 15 minutes to settle sometime between 7 and 8 (depending on how naps have gone) but then wakes up wailing a lot between then and about 11. I think she suffers from Fear Of Missing Out, which used to keep me up late as well in the days when I had a social life. Oh well!

tattyblue · 06/02/2015 20:53

Oh God, freias, solidarity on the evenings. I'm in the middle of one of tee ones where she just feeds and winges, after sleeping fine from 7.30- 8. It makes me want to beat my head against the wall.

So nice to see so many nice new people.

Sleepywaterbaby · 06/02/2015 21:19

Another lurker who's back to join the sleep deprived party!

I was previously on the antenatal club as Lily31. Decided to change things up as I'm no longer 31...

Lots of you came to visit me on the antenatal thread when there were only two of us left. Little M eventually arrived on 10th Nov.

She is a lively, smiling, active baby. Well... For some of the time. The rest of the time she howls and people say she sounds like a toddler her shrieks are so mature! Doctor also won't do anything about her reflux - so I am usually found with white curdled spew on my clothes. We've had a proper roller coaster of weight loss, tongue tie, sleepless nights etc.

She wakes every 3 hrs or so and this week it has really taken its toll on me. Hence I am in the spare room and DP is with her. I'm supposed to be getting some rest but can't seem to sleep! Arghhhh.... I just feel very odd not being next to my ever-waking baby.

sazzlehopes · 06/02/2015 21:20

Hi frieas welcome! Sorry you had such a rough beginning, we had similar but I think I managed it ok because he was my second.
Was C on a cooling mat? My ds2 was oxygen deprived during birth and spent a week in scbu because they were worried about brain damage - all looks well though. We've had one checkup and due another in April to check his development...

flip what a nice thing to say! Glad you're back...hehe! Sorry you've been through the mill too with one is hospital. Eek pneumonia is no walk in the park.

And fate a roll. Uh oh...they'll be crawling before you know it! We almost have a roller, I can't quite work out whether to encourage or not. I like it that I know he is where I put him!

FreiasBathtub · 06/02/2015 21:47

Haha tatty, love the head banging image. She is so lovely the rest of the time but yes, I reach a point around 10pm where I have to hand her over the husband and hit the gin. She is currently asleep, by some miracle, and we are trying to suppress wild cheering at the rugby just in case it wakes her up.

Sazzle, sorry to hear you had a tough start too. Yes, C was on the cooling treatment. So odd. Like a little bottle of wine being chilled. Like you, we had a good initial follow up so are feeling quite positive. Whole experience was really strange - not something they prepare you for in NCT.

Happytimes31 · 06/02/2015 22:07

Useful nap tips ladies pony loved your comment about his highness in the buggy. Same here! He happily naps (if he does) in broad daylight and noise. Weird as the bedtime routine is in the dark and if between 9 and 10 he goes to proper sleep. But darkened naps result in terrible tears

FlipFantasia · 06/02/2015 22:12

Lily/sleepy so good to 'see' you! I was wondering how you'd got on.

Fate Smile at rolling - she'll be moving soon! And how nice that your 5 year old got to witness it.

splendide · 07/02/2015 02:16

ARGH! Just woke the baby up by coughing. So so annoying but I really couldn't help it. God I'm an idiot.

Errrr2012 · 07/02/2015 02:41

Hi everyone! I posted a couple of times on the early threads but lost track for a while partly cause a reg poster really got on my wick but it seems she's disappeared so I feel safe to rejoin my Dd is starting to get a bit of a routine but still wakes at least twice in the night and is always fed back to sleep. The bit I'm finding hard is how on earth do I get her and DS(2.5) to bed at the same time?! He's noisy so disturbs her if I try to get her asleep first but she's wide awake downstairs while we cook tea while DS settles to sleep. Not sure how I'll ever achieve it!

sazzlehopes · 07/02/2015 06:35

errr can you bribe your ds? My ds (who is older so its a little easier) watches half an hour of cbeebies while I do the final feed to sleep around half 6-7. Then I read books to ds downstairs so we don't have to be quiet and then it's literally just the putting to bed bit...

STIGZ · 07/02/2015 08:06

Oh my goodness business is booming again on this threadGrin

Welcome back old regulars, nice to hear from you all Wink and a big hello to all the newbies !!

Im hosting a frozen themed party in the house today for my dd who is five tomorrow, let the madness commence Confused

My baba is amazed by the helium filled ballons so if your looking for something to maybe keep your lo occupied for a wee while then buy a few of these

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Buttwing · 07/02/2015 08:23

stigz my dd loves frozen she went to one where Anna, Elsa,and Christophe came out singing I thought she was going to hyperventilate!

Ds1 is being very challenging at the moment I'm really trying not to get cross with him but so far this morning he's emptied out three cupboards, had two temper tantrums and opened a can of beer out of the fridge! He's 16 months anyone know when it's likely to get any easier.

errr I feel like that's the million dollar question! I'm out of breath some nights by the time mine are in bed. Sorry you felt like that about the other poster :(

Sleepywaterbaby · 07/02/2015 08:31

Eventually got to sleep and had two stints of 5hrs. Am-a-zing...

I went to try and relieve my aching boobs but bubba is asleep. She woke every 2/3 hrs for DP. He now knows my pain but I am sure he'll make me feel his pain today... He was grumpy when I went to say hello.

She was on the bottle so we now know that she snacks through the night taking small amounts. How do you break that with a reflux baby who seems to bring back feeds unless they are smaller?! Arghh....

Sleepywaterbaby · 07/02/2015 08:32

.. Plus, *waves at flip