Jan 2014 - can we call it a sleep regression if they didn't sleep in the first place?

[Swannykazoo]

Here goes...

No more sleep here (obviously!) Just back from a weekend at the in-laws. It was the first time we'd taken P to see them and the 5 hour journey each way went really quite well. They are crazy in love with her, which is lovely but a bit exhausting! I hardly saw her for three days because they kept grabbing her and taking her for walks and to show her off to people. Very sweet.

MIL gave me her opinion on everything why P hardly sleeps, and insisted we try keeping her up later in the evenings. It went VERY badly, with P being awake from 11:30 to 4:30 on Friday night Still waiting for the sleep consultant to open up more bookings, as I'm getting a bit shattered now!

We have got our first teeth coming through though, which explains the nappy rash last week. If i could just sort out her constipation i think she'd be much happier

Right back to the mountain of washing!

DD1 has just broken her arm, so that's nice!

Oh no toby! How did she do that? I hope it isn't too sore and that you haven't had to spend all day in A&E.

Oh no Toby, what happened?

Poor miniToby!

We spent the whole afternoon in A&E, which was lovely. M was, thankfully, very patient despite being knackered.

She fell over her own shoelaces putting the trolley back in Lidls car park
Then she sat on the ground in the actual trolley return thing, wailing that she couldn't get up while people tried to put their trolleys back. I called her a drama queen, for which I later had to apologise! We now have to wait for the fracture clinic to call and tell us whether they want to operate or not, as the break is in her radius and at an angle.

So today had been a bit of a bastard. I have literally just sat down after cobbling together some sort of crappy dinner, putting M to bed, and helping DD1 shower/wash her (long, thick) hair. And I've just realised I haven't made DH's sandwiches

Soz. Memememe!

Glad your trip went ok, book.

Sorry to hear about the crappy nights, all. Tiny bastards.

Er DH can make his own sandwiches Toby ;). Glad dd is OK and you survived A&E with M in tow. That sounds like a bad break. As a precaution you might want to consider getting her vitamind/calcium levels checked just in case they are low. Bet she will listen to your nagging about her shoelaces now.

Sorry to hear of mass sleep deprivation everywhere. Hope last night has been calmer for everyone. N is still not too bad but is getting harder to put down. DD has decided sleep is for losers again and DH wakes me up every morning for a "chat" before he goes to work then wonders why I am not particularly chipper aftee two hours of sleep.

Toby that's a bit of a bastard about DD's arm break, but good you survived A&E with M. Another makes a good point about vitamins. I remember being forced to take calcium and vitamin D supplements as a teenager (bleurgh!) because I wouldn't drink milk in the US and apparently blue eyed and red haired girls are especially vulnerable to vitamin d deficiency, in case that is relevant.

book glad the trips to the inlaws went well. It's amazing when they just magically relieve you of the baby, isn't it?

Happy birthday felix and happy anniversary million!

book I love it when everyone thinks they know what to do better than you when you've been bringing up the baby for 6 months. Ignore them!

toby sorry to hear about the arm :(

We got the house! And sold our house (after getting 10 offers and going to sealed bids!) for an amazing amount. We are expecting it to get down valued when it's valued for mortgage but are happy with anything over asking.

I'm going out tonight with my baby friends for a meal and I'm just drinking one of those small prosecco bottles. Life is good at the moment :)

Excellent news all round, getting :)

Toby what a nightmare. Hope your dd is ok. Big up M for not being a tiny bastard in A&E!

getting thats brilliant news. How exciting!

More crap sleeping here. S woke up 12 times last night between 11-7 but weirdly went back to sleep at 7 until 8.45. She usually won't go back to sleep at all at that time. I actually woke up before her and thought something was wrong Anyway, I'm at the end of my tether with this sleep thing and sick of feeling like shit constantly

Great news getting!

Toby when will you hear if dd needs an op?

Fun and games here. Mini pops is loving hus back to front rolling but he can't roll back. He keeps falling asleep in his cot on his tummy wedged against the side then waking up crying as he can't move. Hopefully this phase will pass soon .

Also, due to his excessive and relentless dribbling he has a really red and sore neck. What's best oh wise ones?

Merry we had the same problem. S could only roll back to front and couldn't roll back for ages so would wake up and freak out that she was on her front! She finally learnt to do it after about 3/4 weeks and now sleeps on her side

I don't know if there's anything you can do, Merry. You just have to ride it out until he can turn himself :(

Felix, I'm with you. The sleep thing is getting beyond a joke now. I feel horrible.

DD1 has an appointment at the fracture clinic on Friday. I'm hoping they'll just want to recast it. It's at 4pm so I'm not holding out much hope for M to behave so well this time!

I'm sorry for the bad sleepers!

Dh and I keep having massive fights, I really debating separating last night, but we'll see

That was a proper cliff hanger, sorry. We keep fighting about his mom having the kids. I think that because she's out of the hospital for 3 weeks today, it's understandable that I don't want the kids to go to her house for her to spend time with them.

She keeps emotionally blackmailing DH, and he keeps doing it to me. We've had massive fights about it and basically he thinks i'm being unreasonable. He only seemed to understand that his mom saying "unless I have the children alone i'll have a mental breakdown again" is emotional blackmail and totally fucked up.

It's a long story, but i'm being slagged off to all his family because I don't want her to have the kids alone. I've caved. But it's affected my relationship.

Million I'm sorry to hear that. What a shitty situation.

Merry we've put firm cushions lengthways down one half of the cot to stop DS rolling onto his front. He can roll both ways more or less but for some reason forgets this when he's in his cot He can roll onto his side in the cot but no further.

Million what a shitty situation I'm sorry it's put so much strain on your relationship. So he thinks that his mum should have the children on her own? I think I remember your post before about her having them but admitting to your SIL (possibly, sorry if I'm wrong) that she hadn't been feeling well for a few weeks. I totally agree with you and it's very unfair of her to say things like that to blackmail you, and for DH to back her up and think you're the one being unreasonable!!!

That's exactly what's happened.

Making matters worse is that Im a child abuse survivor which makes me less likely to trust people. But apparently that's not as important.

I'm just trying to sort out my own head.

Million. Have you been able to discuss DMIL's health situation with your DH without the emotional blackmail? It could well be that she is well enough to look after the kids fine but that doesn't even nearly excuse the emotional blackmail and unfair pressure they are putting you under. Don't just bottle it up, please. Resentment is a horribly corrosive thing and it always comes out sooner or later.

Congratulations getting! Enjoy the prosecco. I am so happy for you, and glad that things are so much better now.

He says that she has Bi-Polar, she might have another breakdown, there's nothing they can do. I've said that for years she's been saying she will have one, but hasn't actually. So why was she able to warn us last time (when conveniently she wasn't getting her own way) but wasn't this time. He said he didn't know.
That whole paragraph sums it up for me. She's kinda proven that she wasn't going to have a breakdown all the other times, because she didn't know this time. Apparently it isn't that simple.
DH thinks that because I know she won't hurt the kids that I should get over it, but he's not really giving me any time to do that. I can't see a time when we will stop arguing about this. So I've given in and said she can have them once a week, but I refuse to see her. I don't want to talk/see her. He thinks that's harsh

million so sorry that your arguing. Your dh needs to understand that you both need to be happy with who looks after your children. For example my dh has some silly rules such as h can't have halal meat even though he eats kebabs himself and I have to stick to it even though I don't agree. They are both of your children and you both have to be comfortable. I know it's tricky that it's his mum but hopefully he will come round

Its rubbish million -sounds like you can't win but deffo tough it out.
Right -DH has been shovelling purees/mash into baby puggle during the day and we're nearly out of my freezer stash (I'm a bit more "here have your finger food while I scoff mine) We've done irish stew (mince, carrot,onion, potato) beef and red wine, "fish pie" (poached salmon, potato, dill) as well as carrot, parsnip, apple as single starter purees and some veg curry too. Going to try some sweet potato as wedges and Sun's roast chicken will get mashed up and frozen. Any other ideas for a dinner other than pasta/pesto? Can't be cheese based cos he's cow's milk protein allergic but I've been using Oatly milk.
Are babies allowed canned tuna in brine if well drained or is it too salty? (Thinking tuna + sweetcorn something or other...)