November 2012 - All our babies are 18 months, where has the time gone?

[StuntNun]

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That could be a good idea eliza it would rule out any damage. They'd sedate her she wouldn't feel a thing. I had four with no sedation and two with and have to say the sedated ones were like pleasant naps. However take a doctor's advice (bupa or otherwise) on that as it does have risks and if they don't see it as necessary or helpful then best not to iyswim.

If she does it (either the vom or lethargic thing) in the meantime you could maybe call that nhs helpline thing you have over there.

Oh you young things! DS1 has an induction day for high school next week

It's something about the screen on the Paperwhite PR, it doesn't give off blue light so it doesn't inhibit melatonin production and prevent sleep.

Hee Hee. I laughed there eliza as when I was flouncy people still called me izzy and now I'm izzy again it was funny to be called flouncy :)

I see there has been some, er, debate on the thread. I would have made a comment at the time but no need now I feel as raking over old ground I think.

Holiday was lovely. Didn't feel like a fortnight but was very nice. Kids had a ball in the pool, J too. We had a few swim nappy code brown incidents but no actual leakage unless you count the time he was on dry land but in his boat with my dad!

stunt I can't even begin to imagine high school! I did a big tesco uniform shop but had to call the helpline as there's an item missing :(

I'm getting my hair cut tomorrow. It's getting quite long but just hangs there.... I like having the length tho so was thinking some layers or something. Any ideas or sites I can have a look at? I'm going with a friend to a fancy aveda salon in town :)

I'll be back posting later. We are in my old flat, staying with Leo's best friend who took over the tenancy after us. It's a happy place but seems so tiny now. My brother will look after O, he took the day off. And my parents are ready to Skype and calm her down if it doesn't go well.

Hello izzy!

Hope the exam goes well Lily.

Lots of luck Lily.

High School Stunt?!

Welcome back Izzy. No ideas but waiting for suggestions with baited breath as have v long hair which also hangs. I need a grown up style!

VQ and others who enjoy a bargain - I just picked up an ELC till full of play money and a card reader, supermarket stand with shelves and scales and a canopy thing, shopping trolley and more packets/food from a FB selling page, all in absolutely mint condition, for the bargain-tastic price of £25. Cannot wait to take them home - DD borrowed a till from the toy library last week and has been obsessed with it but has to give it back today so it was perfect timing when I saw this. I very rarely buy them toys and when I do I usually save them for Xmas or birthdays (have a beautiful dolls house for DD which I bought in Jan also from a FB selling page which will be DD's main present) so it will be lush to just present them with something for no reason at all.

lily hope everything goes well.

zamboni that sounds amazing. She'll love it I'm sure.

I need to just talk please.

I'm not sure what's going on with me. I feel bloated, sad, down, out of control and very hormonal. Ragey even. I had to take a minute away from the kids as something minor they were doing made me unreasonably angry. I was trying to fold clothes on the trunk and they kept on standing on it. It was annoying but my instinctual response to scream and shout at them wasn't rational. I feel a strong urge to run and run (physically until I am exhausted - not run away).

I don't know where this is coming from. PMS? This is now the longest I have been contraceptive hormone free and not pregnant or breastfeeding (7 months now) since I was a teenager. I don't remember being this hormonal as a teenager but wonder if that was because I was mentally busy and pretty active physically too. I'm also at my heaviest weight ever.

I'm also having trouble sleeping (falling asleep) but waking up tired as the children are having quite disrupted sleeps at the moment. DD keeps coming in to my bed around 3am and then dozing on and off until 6am. I'm worried about DH's health too but he is refusing to take responsibility for himself and I'm frightened he will die in 5 - 10 years or that he will be wheelchair bound and increasingly miserable in himself and to live with. He is overweight (and as I have responsibility for shopping, making food etc he is putting the burden on me and not him even though he is making bad choices) and has major ankle issues so exercise is very hard.

I'm also having issues with urge incontinence which I need to speak to a doctor about which is really upsetting me. I'm so ashamed to type this but I've now wet myself in car parks while getting everyone in the car more times then I like to think.

I spoke to my dietitian about PMS and she's just given me a multi vit for the moment and we'll review. I don't really want to take a hormonal contraceptive but I don't really want to be this crazy person. I don't want my children to live with this crazy person.

I don't mean to me me me but I just want to escape this feeling and don't know how. I feel like I'm in the middle of a room full of locked doors just spinning round and round and round trying to find an exit.

Not expecting anyone to have a solution but god I just needed to get all this out.

Could be pms but also sounds like anxiety. Hormones likely to be all over the place until your systems settles back down. How old are you? Are you eating Ok? Drinking lots of water? Are you depressed( you don't necessarily sound it btw).

You sound very stressed and anxious and there are ways of helping with that. The incontinence won't be helping I can imagine that is very stressful. Talk to your gp.

Hugs, and keep talking.

I'm 29 in a month and eating ok. I'm largely following the dieticians plan (which is 40% carbs, 40% protein, 20% fat, free veg) but have had slightly more sugar than usual as we made chocolate rice crispy nests on a play date and had left over chocolate that had to be eaten

Having said that I had a sticky bun with the kids after we had our flu jabs today and it was probably 3 hours later that I was really angry and grumpy. Not sure if that is a co-incidense or not.

I've only had 5 periods since I finished breastfeeding so I do feel like hormones still are a bit wonky. My last week of PMS prior to my last period was awful. Again, full of rage and craving rubbish carbs.

I do drink lots of water and I don't think I'm depressed.

Thank you :)

Sounds like sugar might be a contributing issue. It's hard to cut it out though it's all over the place. It does impact moods though, like a drug.

My hormones are all over the place since DD2 arrived. I didn't find the pill helped.

You sound very anxious and worried. How long have you felt like this?

For the record I did take E to the docs after she did this sick thing ages a go. They couldn't find anything wrong, referred me to the paed who in turn couldn't find anything wrong. But I do think it requires further investigation so I will head back to drs.

izzy sounds lovely. hoping that's what my holiday will be like.

digger I'm so sorry. I have no real advice to offer I'm afraid but just keep talking. hugs.

eliza I think I remember that now. Fx she doesn't do it again. When is your holiday?

Digger I would tell the GP everything you've said here. There are many things it could be -PND, general anxiety, or something physical like thyroid or anaemia. Only a real medical type can give you a definite answer, so have a and a handhold from me. FWIW I feel like that too occasionally, but mine is very definitely linked to working late then R having a bad night and it passes within an hour or two. So you're not abnormal, but it sounds like there are things that can be done to help iyswim

The Dr has suggested I put R in pants (cotton not training even) during the day she reckons that him asking for the loo means he's definitely trying to train, and the air will heal his rash (she said Ulcer but that's quite a scary word to me?!) it's healing slowly but more air will speed it up. So I'll be swapping a bag of nappies for a bag of spare clothes and a big bottle of anti-bac spray! We're back in 10 days and hopefully won't need a dressing or a referral to a dermatologist or owt. I'm off the the shops this afternoon - M+S have some funky ones, fx they're in stock at the actual shop and not just online :o

digger you should really talk to your gp about all of this my own thoughts on things you could do at home are, you prob know all this but anyway;

1)getting uptight with kids, to be honest I think when I am run down, busy, or sometimes just at the end of a busy day and the kids do something like that ( which they do) I feel ready for spontaneous combustion too. I have often snapped at them. So don't beat yourself up about that al with the other stuff and perhaps you will have a little more patience.
2.) things to try with falling asleep, clean bed sheets, air your room during the day regardless of weather, I leave my duvet turned down most of the day as it gives a feel of clean sheets every night. Maybe some fresh air before bed, a walk is always nice. No screens in the two hours before bed.
3.) go and see your gp straightaway about the incontinence issue. I am sure you are really worried about it and it is a tough thing to go and chat about. You may find once you share that with a health professional it is a big weight off your shoulders.
4.) open your heart to your DH. If need be ask him to come to your gp with you when you go about the other stuff and raise it as something which is making you anxious.

Most importantly LOADS OF HUGS

that should have said Deal with the other stuff

pr we go on saturday. After a bright start she did go quite sleepy before lunch which is unsual. No more sick though yet. I will take her to my gp this afternoon. won't be anything they can do but will get the ball rolling.

digger I agree with everything wanda says. Please don't try and go through this alone. Speak to your gp and make sure your DH knows how you feel.

Night all - heading to bed. I really appreciate the thoughts and support. I'll reply in the morning when I have my head together.

Digger I know just how you feel with everything piling up like that. There's a lot that can be done. The incontinence can be treated with medication and pelvic floor exercises. It would be worth getting your hormones and thyroid levels checked by the GP in case there's an underlying problem. I know since I had J I have had the worse PMT where I'm irrationally ragey and it's hard to keep a lid on it even when I'm doing it. I have been checked out and the gynae reckons in my case it's just a natural hormonal change. But they've given me medication to deal with the heavy periods I've been getting so that's a big relief. I've also started ADs recently, too recently for them to have started working properly but I do feel better and I think it's because I'm doing something to help myself iyswim. Two big changes I've made since having J are starting a low carb diet and starting to exercise more regularly. The diet (MN Bootcamp) has made a huge difference to my health (no more IBS, no more aches and pains, more energy, better skin, no period pains and I've lost a load of weight). The exercise has helped with my mood but it's also made me feel better about myself, again I think because I'm doing something rather than just feeling miserable about being so out of shape. I ran the mums race at the school sports day for the first time in years and I didn't win but I didn't come in last either. I think you've made an important first step in realising there is a problem. With the help of your GP you can investigate and make changes that will certainly improve your quality of life and that, in particular sleep, will go a long way to helping you manage with the kids and cope with your DH's head in the sand approach.

Digger, I haven't got too much more to add, other than to say that I have had very ragey PMS since having O, and this is also the first time I have been hormonal contraceptive/pregnancy free in about 10 years. So part of it could be a hormonal imbalance that needs time to right itself. I also haven't eaten any chocolate/sweets for about 2 months, which has made a huge difference to my moods. I don't even crave it anymore, so it might be worth a try. I know that some AD's can also be used to treat severe PMS, so I would definitely speak to your doctor about it x

Wanda and others have had the best advice digger.

I just wanted to add loads of hugs

I have the sorest boobs in the world ever. Last time they were like this was when I was preggers which I'm not. Just stupidly sore.

false negative pikz?

Pikz false negative? PM me your address and I will send you one of our lucky digi tests from when "we couldn't possibly be preggers". The unused one obviously!

20 week scan went well. Long legged and medium noggin! Still team yellow.

Great news yw.

pikz test again!

So I took E to the dr and we are being referred back to the consultant. meh.