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December 2011 - the one where we do the Twist and Shout

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 11/05/2014 22:27

New thread.

these babies are nearly two and a half

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/07/2014 09:02

Pleased all the little ones are doing better, we'll have no more terrifying illness scare thankyouverymuch.

I'm shattered. DH has been snoring like a wilderbeast the last few nights, I have no idea why. I dread going to bed because I know I wont get any sleep, but the spare bed hurts my back. AIBU to want to chuck him out of our bed, even though it's not something he can control? I need some sleeeeep! If I wake up with keyboard imprint on my face later, it will be all his fault.

DS has been 'in trouble' at nursery this week, on Tuesday he was being really boisterous and a bit rough with the other toddlers. Not in a malicious way, just in a giddy-not-listening way. Then yesterday he was a star all day until his little friend wanted to play with a toy he had, so he tried to bite him. Luckily a staff member caught him before he got teeth into flesh, but when she asked why he was biting he said 'I wanted to play with that toy'. Toddler logic for you I guess.

I'm trying to gently encourage him to fall asleep on his own at the minute, for me he will lie down next to me and be asleep in 10 minutes, but with DH it can take 30-40 minutes. I don't want to leave him to cry or be upset so I've just been saying 'mummy can only stay for five minutes for kisses and cuddles, then I've got to do x, y or z' it's not being very successful, not really sure what to do? Any ideas?

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AnAirOfHope82 · 10/07/2014 09:43

Hi

Mopsy glad minimopsy is getting better and poor wee thing it must have been so scarey for her, hope you all get rest and lots of hugs xx

AnAirOfHope82 · 10/07/2014 09:48

Also there is so many new thread babies to catch up with, congrats to everyone who is pg or has a new lo xx

Figster · 10/07/2014 10:25

Hello Air hows things?

Chip good luck with the scan very jealous of all you PG ladies.

Mopsy glad MiniM is on road to recovery and hope she is being a bit less dependent on you.

Hop no suggestion on the biting thing as we never had that with DS but at night we have issues where he doesnt want us to leave him we hit upon saying we needed to go for a wee but we would be back, he seemed to understand that and it got to point where after a few mins sitting with him he would tell us to go for a wee, now we say we need to feed Ezhno and that he is so hungry and we need to feed him and now that seems to work.

Oi sounds like a busy weekend planned hope it goes well, I know Ali is a superboi and very aware but am sure it will take a while for him to understand what is happening, you both sound in a great position to help him through it.

It has been a crap week here a total clusterf*ck in fact, DH been ill and off work Monday, DS got sent home from CM Monday with 3 bad poos so he wasnt allowed back until Today, he has of course been fine ever since no sign of sickness obviously just something he has eaten. So Tuesday I had to work at home around him which was not easy and he was tearing the house apart as wanted to go out and play, DH then got sent home sick in the afternoon, in the evening he had to go to his granddad nursing home as he was looking like he might die soon, MIL was supposed to have ds on Wednesday eek. Wednesday morning MIL called to say DH granddad had died first thing so he was then off and had DS and took him up to see her to distract her. All very sad but he was 93, had not left his room for probably 5-6 years as had given up and think it was a release for him and MIL.

Today has started better ds has weed on the toilet and was very impressed with himself, he then started clutching his tummy and saying he had a sore tummy and belly button 2 seconds after he let out a huge faaaaaart so thank god it was wind. He is such a boy!!

AnAirOfHope82 · 10/07/2014 11:22

Haha boys you gota love them!

Im ok thanks.

Update on Dd is boring as she is still cosleeping, still bf all the time, still in pullups but useing the potty and being still weeing on the curtains/floor when she wants and smiling and saying "nernerhaha" like the kid off the simpsons, nelson???

I had her nursary report all fine but poor pronousation sometimes and she knows shapes, can count passed 11 and knows everything and takes care of the other children. The keyworker thinks she is old headed! I think she is hard work lol She is obbessed with books and we must read 10 a day to her, she has started saying the words after me and pointing to some words she knows. She is saying why to everything and "me go" everytime we go anywhere, so she wants to play football and bowls and swimming and do everything ds is doing lol

She is a checky beak and knows it!

Ds is off today as school on strike. Its magic day tomoro and he has put a hole in his only black school trouser so he will be wearing black shorts, a tshirt with tuxedo printed on it and a vampire cape. I have ordered a top hat and wand but they might not be here in time, so its not really worked out. I should just let him go as a vampire like he wanted!

We will get his end of EYF report tomoro so im both worried and impeatient

pluCaChange · 10/07/2014 13:57

How's minimopsy today? Do you have a date for discharge from the hospital yet?

Welcome back AnAirofHope! Nice to see you de-flouncing back to MN! I'm looking forward to seeing the "magic" pictures on FB tomorrow! Smile

Hope the scan goes well tomorrow, ChipsandSpuds!

HopAlongOn, re the sleep thing, has that coincided with the problems at nursery? They do get unsettled if their sleep is troubled, or if they feel nervous about "being left". How much light does DS have in his room at night? Is there any chance you could leave the door open and move around upstairs (let the bathwater out, wipe up in the bathroom, etc.), or even fold clothes in the doorway? I ALWAYS have a massive pile of clean laundry ready to be folded (since I finish a load and dump it, then use the emptied basket for the next few load s). If he accepts your being near, and audible, perhaps you could progress to having a bath (which is vastly superior to having to fold laundry)...
If the nursery "roughness" hasn't coincided with the sleep-training, then it's just a matter of reinforcement. They need manymanymanymanymanymanymanymanymanymany lessons in this sort of thing, since they're not actually learning, but being trained, and even we adults - though we might seem to pick up facts and skills relatively easily - still need to train to change our fitness, behaviour, mental outlook, etc... (compare knowing Thomas and all his flippingFriends with potty training!) I think DD's "thing" to be trained out of is spilling and breaking glasses - little so and so!

That sounds horrible, Figster - what a nasty combination! Sad

OiMissus, that sounds an amazing lot of furniture shopping! Very generous of you to let DH have the racecar bed! Some friends of mine had that for their DS, and it was amazing! I was a bit surprised that you're telling your parents so late, but, on reflection, that's probably because family members often seem to get involved in breakups far earlier than they ought to... and you are being so methodical and careful about it all! Just maybe don't let your parents know if you have discussed it with any of your friends (beyond us!) before telling them, as it's unlikely they would understand, or want to understand that, or understand that it really does show good-will to sorting things out with DH, by NOT getting family involved. I once broke up with DH (back when he was a BF, and my mother's "oh, well, let's move on" sort of reaction gave me to understand that she had not been overly keen on him, which was a bit awkward when we sorted things out and eventually got back together. I now make an effort not to sound off about him to her, as I just sort of feel that she might "hold it against him", IYSWIM. By contrast, friends' opinions can be given, and taken, more freely, as friends are NOT your DH's in-laws, so there's no need to preserve a relationship! I hope your weekend revelations go well. Smile

Enjoy the last couple of days with DH, aethel and then DS will have more space in your bed, to starfish out and not disturb you!

Two trips to Waitrose yesterday, to pick up all the "click & Collect" stuff I ordered the other night. Even our estate car couldn't swallow it all in just one gulp! Although it was lighting and ceiling shades, which are bound to be bulky, it was strangely satisfying to have "something to show" for what I spent! So often, a food shop, for instance, will seem like not much compared to the bill! Grin DD conked out in the car just as we set off for what turned out to be the first trip, so I had to heave her into a trolley and brace her head as I waited for the packages to be brought down. Every now and then, she would wriggle and complain (probably because her glasses were digging into her, poor little thing), but she carried on sleeping through that, loading the car, the school run, back in the car, dropping them at the new house, and back to collect the second lot of packages! Bedtime last night took aaaaages!

mopsytop · 10/07/2014 17:22

Hi all, minim improving. Just switched to oral antibiotics so really hope we can go home tomorrow at some stage. Fingers crossed! I'm wrecked but looking fwd to going home.

pluCaChange · 10/07/2014 17:28

Oooh, oral antibiotics implies no more throwing up? Fingers crossed for you to get home in good time for the weekend. Horrid weather down South, so if you have the same, it'll be a nice weekend to cosy up together!

NorthernChinchilla · 10/07/2014 20:33

It'd be brilliant if you made it home with MiniM tomorrow mopsy, sounds like you will. Glad you got a good night's sleep Tuesday, is it your 'turn' again tonight?

And wow air, it's lovely to see you again!

Sorry about the shite week figster, and about your DH's grandfather. Does sound like he was ready to go, hope it was peaceful for him.

I think plu is right about parents getting far too involved in their adult children's relationships Oi, so if that's the concern you do well not to tell until late in the day. Sadly DP's parents' hobby is their children's lives iyswim, and so they get themselves involved in both the minutiae and the massive, massive personal issues and decisions to the detriment of all involved. And plu, that is one massive shop, what the hell did you buy?!

Sure it will go fine Oi; you'd clearly moved on in your head already, and sounds like BOi will fine too. Here's to happy co-parenting!

hop, are there any CDs of music or stories he could fall asleep too, so you could kiss him goodnight, put that on so that he has 'company'?

Not in tomorrow, as have booked a family trip to the new GP we've registered with, followed by family trip to our dentist's.
ROCK N ROLL Grin

mopsytop · 11/07/2014 07:23

Northern, I just stayed in every might except Tuesday as I was so exhausted that day. Minimopsy was so upset I left I just figured so long as I felt OK why put ourselves through that again, although of course Mr.M would have stayed. He had a dreadful headache anyway yesterday evening and has been trying to squeeze several hrs work in since wed so he is a wreck too. Poor man. I was so upset on Monday I feel like he had double burden of me and Minimopsy to mind/worry about.

OiMissus · 11/07/2014 08:24

Morning all, Boi came home from nursery with a cake, so we all sat in the garden while he ate it and tried to tell him whilst he was quiet eating cake. ha ha ha!
his concentration was purely for the cake. (We didn't talk about separating or splitting up, or who loves who, we purely said that daddy has a new house that he will be going to, that Boi will visit, and have his own bedroom there, and have toys there, and new clothes too, and a racing car bed...)
We thought nothing had gone in at all, but when we went inside, he said "So I can have new toys?"
(He's not daft, is he?!)
DH asked what new toy he'd want, he said a robot, a blue one, I punched that into my phone in amazon, ... and at some point today we'll take delivery of a Teksta (?) robot puppy. (I'm rather excited! I might have to get one for my house.)
He is spoilt. I know.
So I went through the kitchen last night, splitting up plates and mug sets, and cutlery etc., etc. DH is thinking he can buy everything... DH has no idea how much time and expense I'm saving him!
And DH and I shared a bed for the last time last night, and DH said goodbye to BOi for the weekend. Poor DH. (We did not acknowledge or say anything last night about the final night in bed.)
I gave him a hug this morning, with a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye, ... but then flew up the street in my car and felt FAB.
Dropped Boi off at nursery this morning, told the CM about BOi's new bedroom etc., so she knows to be aware of any changes.
So I shall work til lunchtime, go home and pack for our weekend at the caravan (will nip and get some photo frames first, and so I can make up some nice pics for DH's new house), then I shall pick up the Boi and get orf to the caravan.
Where I'll then have to tell my dad.
Ah - yes - you were surprised that we haven't said anything til now... they knew last year that we were going to Relate. Mum has known that I've not been happy for a while. (She's old school, you stick with it and make it work, "couples go through phases". - Trouble is, I remember my mum's 20 yr long phase of not loving my dad, and I ain't going down that route!!)
Oh, and I'm teaching BOi French. he can count to 10, say hello, goodbye, how are you, very good. I can't believe how quickly he picked up 1-10. He's like a sponge! I'm going to try and make the most of it.

OiMissus · 11/07/2014 08:49

In less me me me me me news, I am very impressed with the Waitrose/JL click and collect shopping that's been taking place!
Happy to hear MiniM is improving.
Wishing Aethel good luck with her 2 weeks without DH.
Sorry to hear about your rubbish week Fig.
I've been reading with interest your advice for Hop re sleep. Boi is the same, he wants to fall asleep with me in his bed, with me in a headlock.
I've been leaving him to cry it out. :( But then I relent and go to him, give him another cuddle, and that seems to settle him. Hopefully we'll train it out of him.
But, a weekend at the caravan - where we sleep in a big bed together, and a leaving-DH, may upset things all over again. But I am going to have to try and be strong and not let him sleep in DH's place....
It would be lovely. But not right for the long term, and not fair on DH when it's his nights. although DH would love it too in the short term.

mopsytop · 11/07/2014 09:47

All sounds very positive Oi. You're both handling it amazingly!

Good news ... we can go home today WOOOHOOO!!!

OiMissus · 11/07/2014 10:18

Fantastic news! brilliant. have a lovely snuggly weekend. Although she'll probably run you ragged, rather than sit quietly and calmly. :)
I'm handling it OK. Hope DH is OK too. I think he'll be miserable tonight. It's going to be much tougher for him.

mopsytop · 11/07/2014 12:30

We are home! Yay! Smile

AnAirOfHope82 · 11/07/2014 15:17

Glad your home Mopsy and get well soon Minimopsy xx

Aethelfleda · 11/07/2014 16:48

Yay for getting home minimopsy! What a week. Hope you can have a quiet, settled weekend full of snuggles

That's tyel, by the way oi

Good luck with the moving, and talking oi....

pluCaChange · 11/07/2014 17:12

Welcome home, mopsy and minimopsy! And don't take on a "burden" of guilt for DH. It only seems a "double burden" because he's taking on some of yours (and remember your little "passenger" is taking something from you, too!), but he will be dropping something of his own as well, to accommodate. No-one actually has the capacity for a double burden. When I had a nasty chest infection recently, and stayed in bed for about a week (initially feverish, and then just too short of breath to do anything), DH "worked from home", yet he was doing both his job and my job badly (limited hours in his job, not taking DS and DD anywhere in mine), because no-one can do two full-time jobs. Your DH is doing what he can, and so are you. His headache could have been partly because of the heat in the hospital (and because, despite men's supposed physicality, they don't bear the burdens mothers do, maybe because we are bearing burdens with our bodies all bent out of shape by childbearing?).

And "welcome home", too, to OiMissus, OiBoi and... er... HOi (Or is OiMister a bit more dignified?). I hope the move goes smoothly for you all, and that the space and time bring you all peace. Smile No doubt you'll need that peace to retreat to after encounters with your parents, with one another, with work, etc... Home is a haven!

Speaking of home havens, here are some of the things I bought in that epic shop: Dante chandelier, Celeste, Ava Botanical and Zenza Filisky. It will be the ANTI-RENTED house (and also possibly the Renovation-ANTI-Depressant).

Don't worry, though; I'll be right back down with a bump when we have to do all the non "rock 'n' roll" tasks you've been busy with, NorthernChinchilla. Wink

How are you getting on, PartTimeProcrastinator? Any movement yet?

pluCaChange · 11/07/2014 17:14

Grin Next time, run faster, and we'll crown you Queen Aethel-Fleed-Da-Fudge!

mopsytop · 11/07/2014 18:17

LOOOOVE the light fittings plu esp the first chandelier one... might be nicking your ideas if we ever move....

pluCaChange · 11/07/2014 18:38

Ah, thank you! Blush

And how nice to hear you taking an interest in frivolous things, rather than being too worried about your children (!) and DH!

Aethelfleda · 11/07/2014 18:48

I shall not run. I likes fudge.

pluCaChange · 11/07/2014 19:58

Short-date booze? Is that young wine, on its way to vin aigre? Confused

NorthernChinchilla · 11/07/2014 20:52

Hah! I used to live literally opposite a Booths (classy Northern supermarket for those in the know) and 20 seconds down the road from a Bargain Booze, a really non-classy but well affordable place for student drinking. £3 bottles of wine Grin Grin

pluCaChange · 11/07/2014 21:22

I'll have you know there were cheap bottles of wine down south, too, when I were a student!

Hungarian country wine, under £3... ahhhh.

Mind you, I think I'm a few years older than you, Northern, and if there's one thing there's been inflation in over the last 15 years, it's bloody wine (and tinned chopped tomatoes).