Elderberries no 2 - all old and new berry babies welcome!

[HazleNutt]

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Argh! Stupid bloody phone! Oh well, hopefully you got the gist of that gobbledygook.

Frog I would definitely ask for a room to express. It's a long time to be uncomfortable abd it will be distracting.

Gah! Just when I was getting optimistic that we were coming out the other side of E's especially shit sleeping, she has totally refused her afternoon nap and taken an hour to get her in bed tonight, despite being awake for nearly 8 hours with only 2 minutes sleep at 3.45pm. Dreading tonight now

Oh no cav good luck! S was in such a funny mood today, kept really crying, so unlike her these days. She was also really fighting sleep tonight and took ages to settle. Hope this phase passes quickly!

Was chatting to some of my mum friends and there is such a totally unfair range of sleep patterns! Some are resorting to trying things like reducing overnight feeds and sleep training and other people are doing bugger all and getting a good night sleep every night! I also posted in another group I'm in about the 9 month regression and some people said sleep actually got better for them around then so I asked for any tips and have a few, I can post on Facebook in case anyone's interested. Although cav I have to agree with your luck and genetics point to some extent!

I also googled milk drying up just now as I'm really not able to pump any, and it says pregnancy can do that eek! Am stepping away from google before I freak myself out!

Must be something in the air tonight. I've just got L back to bed for the THIRD time I hope she actually stays asleep for a while this time.

I'm grumpy as I'm in agony due to being at work today/ongoing workstation issues. Pissed off with it all, I know I've got to kick up an absolute stink again to get anything done then get labelled as a trouble maker but I'd honestly forgotten how bad it was. I'm only doing two days a week and it's crippling me, I think I was so used to living in constant pain before that I was almost used to it but I've not had any of the issues with my arms etc while I've been on maternity leave but I can barely move tonight and everything hurts

Gah, sorry, didn't mean to write a whiny essay

Whine away Lilly! You shouldn't end up in pain as a result of just going to work so you keep nagging at them until they sort it. Remind them where there's blame there's a claim.

I would also like to whine. As predicted we had an especially shit night which resulted in me getting about 3 hours of broken sleep. Yawn. After taking ages to get her in bed, E woke again at 11.45 and then woke every 30-40 minutes until I gave up and brought her into our bed at 3am where she still woke a few times but settled straight back off, but she then got up for the day when DH accidentally woke her getting up for work at 6.20. and anyone?

Oh crap was hoping you were over the regression for your sake cav and selfishly for my holiday's sake

Ha Alex they're all so different. Just look what a brilliant sleeper M is now compared to 4/5 months old so S might be the same. I would save your worrying for a few weeks before you go if she is still a crap sleeper.

Right, we're off swimming. I'm so tired I hope I don't sink.

J in absolute agony again last night from his trapped wind. The only thing that helps is feeding him again. I was up 11-12.30 & 4-6. Had to get up at 7 to get ready & feed before getting train to brum to talk about a job opportunity. I'm looking good & very alert

Gripe water was an absolute miracle worker for H frog, as were Dr Browns bottles. We went from 2-4 hourly battles with wind some nights to a baby who would bring up his wind with just 5 or 10 minutes encouragement. He still suffers a bit with wind but has massivly outgrown it so fingers crossed J does too. Love her full name btw really really nice!

Sorry frog meant his name, I'm in the habit of writing her as we've had such a run of girls lately. Lovely to have an extra boy on the team!

Thanks mother. Can you use gripe water when bf? The trouble is that I can get him to burp no probs but it seems to get trapped at the other end iyswim. It's been awful last couple of days & he's also had v runny nappies so I think he may actually have an upset tummy or an intolerance to something. He seems fine in himself when not having a wind episode. Tonight he's been much better anyway so that's something

Hi frog it comes with a syringe so can be used when bfing or ffing, might be worth a try. Ahh yes I remember how H used to groan and writhe around, then he'd let rip a big fart and be happy as larry again.

H has had a poorly tummy this week too poor little guys. If it's anything like H's was beware, his managed to go out his nappy at the waistband all the way up the back and out his collar and down one arm.....I still shudder thinking about it. My child was totally covered in poo....yuck!

Thanks Mother I'll give it a go.

Another question for you all about fertility whilst bf actually. Dr put me on Cerelle mini-pill at my 6 wk check but I haven't had a period yet or any signs that I might be ovulating. I ordered a repeat prescription & incompetent DP was supposed to pick it up from drs yesterday whilst I was at my work mtg. Unfortunately he was trying to pick up actual pills from chemist who of course had never heard of me! He phoned me but I missed the call & then he didn't answer the phone again. He claims he didn't know it was that important! Aaaargh! Anyway long story short is I'm going to run out of pills on holiday next week- would you chance DTD? For the sake of our relationship we need to but DP hates condoms. I think odds of getting pg are pretty slim (or I wouldn't be a berry!) but law of sod & all that...

frog how old is yours again? I've lost track? I'm in a bit of a similar predicament actually (although totally different!) - I had polycystic ovaries and am not going on the pill again, and I'm not a fan of condoms really either. So I was going to just leave it up to chance as we needed fertility drugs last time so the infertile person in me genuinely doesn't think we'll get knocked up in any hurry (if ever again). I'm fully aware that people can be more fertile after number one though. The thing is, if we end up having number two sooner than we realise, it would be full on but I'd rather risk that than wait 2/3 years and then start ttc again.

Having said that, I don't want to get pregnant before I've enjoyed my mat leave summer, my holidays and two summer weddings! Plus I'm just not ready yet. I was thinking it's fine as we don't have a chance to dtd these days anyway but actually we will have more of a chance when S goes into her nursery and when we're on our Spain holiday etc.

So I guess for us and for you, it's either condoms or run the risk?! If I were you personally, I'd be even more likely to make sure we use condoms bearing in mind your situ with your DP, even if he isn't a fan of them (let's face it, who is). Hmm maybe we'd better get some especially as we've got our first date night tonight although we might be too shattered and just end up having a good night sleep haha

Oh actually frog I seem to remember running out of pills a few years back and needing them desperately for a holiday and somehow getting one months worth from a pharmacy last minute on a Saturday. I am trying to remember how I did it but I managed?! Maybe talk to a pharmacist today?

Alex on a completely random note, when and where in Mauritius are you travelling to? Do you mind giving me a few details (happy on fb or here) as to length of trip and cost? I've never been there and am trying to convince dh it's a good place to go next august when our childminder is on holiday. L will be 2 then. Any help is much appreciated

We're going to heritage le telfair and we got a deal on it, we're going half board which I've never done before but I guess we won't be spending as much on alcohol as usual?! I think it's good for a young baby as only a few hours time difference, so no jet lag, and we're going in the winter because it isn't as hot and humid. I just hope it's sunny! I don't know anyone who's stayed at the hotel but it was one of a few on the list we had for deals and it looks great.

Sorry frog I'm no help, I had a coil fitted asap just incase as sods law says I'd get diffed immediately this time.

After all that banging on about not getting pregnant just yet, DH and I, erm, had an adult cuddle (to steal Cav's cringey term!) without protection last night - so I'm really hoping sod's law doesn't come into effect over here!! No AF yet or ov signs at all so I really don't think it can happen yet.

Alex I think you would be massively unlucky to get caught out while EBFing and no AF, so don't worry too much i'm sure you'll be fine.

Yeah I did an old ov test earlier out of interest and no smiley face. Was so, so good not to feel crushing disappointment like I used to

Lol I'm going to the same hotel two weeks earlier for our honeymoon (Alex threatened to come at the same time but was banned ) and I had done a bit of research before getting the deal through Alex's husband (I actually got it through work but then her husband did me an even better deal - thank you Alex!). Anyway my old lodger worked at trail finders and only deals with business and first class travel and it was one of three hotels he recommended we stay in - and that was before I got the email about the deal so I was delighted to get it for such a good price. He said the only downside was that it was full of honeymooners. I therefore reminded him it was for my honeymoon at which point he said it would be ideal!

Can you imagine how jealous I'm going to be when I get back then Alex jets off to the very same resort three days later?!

Alex is your husband a travel agent?