March 2013 time for shoes!

[Plonkysaurus]

New thread ladies...

I'm off to the dentist shortly, so I'll stick my head in the chemist's on the way past and ask about vaccinations for a trip to Turkey, yummy.

According to doli's links, for anyone who hasn't had chance to read, the meningitis jab is for meningitis B, which has a 10% fatality rate and 25% complications rate. The jab's 73% effective. It usually affects children under one so we're past the scary zone on that one.

"The vaccine has been found to be safe and well tolerated in trials involving more than 8,000 people."

8000 people isn't actually all that many. Hmm. The government's all for introducing it as part of routine vaccinations, but they're quibbling over the price. Should be £75 privately. Personally I'd quite like to have a read of those trials before deciding.

Hepatitis A, from the GP, yummy. Shouldn't need any others.

Ah cheers stormy.

plonky oh no poor toddlesaurus. I dread ds getting pox. Does this mean he has to be at home from nursery for two weeks? Where are you planning to go for the summer?

shattered sounds like you had a rough night as well. Lots of coffee for you today.

Thanks for the links doli will have a look at it now while ds is having a nap.

Whatever I decide to do about ds night wakings im going to wait after this period of unsettledness.

Hope everyone has a good day.

I see I've been lacking in my medical duties on the thread.....too busy nosying round show homes!

Doli as for the vaccines I've not had very detailed looks but I don't think I'll be getting the pox vaccine for DD but I may well get the Men B. The results are a bit 'best guess' because obviously they can't expose babies to meningitis and see who gets it but when they tested their immunogenicity it seem to be much higher in vaccinated babies. The problems are the same as the flu vaccine in that you never know which strains will be around in which years but having seen meningitis I'd do a lot to avoid it.

As for names for lady bits, I too like 'lady bits' as a term but we also use vuvu, very twee but I can explain when she's older that V&V stands for vulva and vagina. I don't think it matters at all what you use just that you have a term that works between you so you can have open conversations without embarrassment.

Stormy I'm off to the dentist too, I've got an infected impacted wisdom tooth and been in agony all weekend as it's now covered in ulcers. I can't enjoy my food which is terrible for me!!!

MMR today too so we're fully prepared for a grumpy couple of weeks!

Ouch Betty is it an extraction for you or antibiotics and prayer? Hope the mmr goes smoothly for you, and that she sleeps tonight! Thank you for coming on here and using words like immunogenicity, it's so good to have free medical advice/opinion on tap.

Yummy ds will be going back to nursery as soon as he's able. Hopefully next week, seeing as he's already getting crusty - but the pharmacist seems to think that could be the eczema. Not sure what nurserys policy is, but I think I'm right in saying he won't be contagious once all scabs are crusted over. Til then it's calpol, cuddles and fresh air!

We're going to Madeira in early sept. It's only 150 each for flights, and well be staying in PILs villa so it's about the cheapest holiday we could possibly have. Cannot wait for a week in the sun! When are you off to Turkey? Always wanted to go there.

CantTurn no idea if you have the time/headspace to catch up these days, but thinking of you.

eco I still breastfeed on demand and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I don't offer it unless DD hurts herself and otherwise only when she signs or asks for it. I will be weaning by this "don't offer but don't refuse" method and I am prepared to carry on and do nothing more to discourage feeding until school age unless DD decides to stop. The worldwide average age for self-weaning is approx 4 and there are some very good reasons to Carr on feeding well into toddlerhood (kellymom website has links to some good studies on this topic). In the UK this is obviously no longer the norm (although used to be not that many years ago) and we massively bring down that worldwide statistic. There is also no need to worry that child will never wean as they all eventually lose their ability to suck.

doli we are definitely getting chicken pox vaccine as it's standard in all other developed countries. British travel vaccinations company does them all over the UK.

Ugh. Someone remind me why we have stairs? Bastard things. Alternatively, bastard hoovers! Impossible to combine the two in a way that doesn't result in a crippled spine.

Next up: the bathroom. The toilet. Limescale below the water line. Someone remind me why we have landlord inspections? Mutter grumble mutter.

So what's everyone else doing on this lovely sunny Monday?

Working and handing over £££ for work on the car

Cleaning ds diarrophea nappies. (sp? Too tired to care if its mispelt)

Working sounds preferable to house blitzing. Although at least my day involved tea breaks in the sunshine.

Don't worry about mis-spelt words, yummy. I do enough worrying about them for everyone.

How was the dentist, Betty? Mine was alright, much cleaner looking teeth now. But they feel really weird because the spaces between them aren't gunked up any more. Can't stop poking them.

Urrggh pox here has been pretty grim. We didn't have the fever etc beforehand but we have hundreds of spots, in nasty places including on tongue, inside lips and, ahem, on her vuvu (totally stealing that) which makes for unpleasant nappy changes. First spots were last Tuesday, only really started scabbing over today and I think really starting to itch bless her. Hopefully home straight.

My cousin's little boy had meningitis last year. Scary stuff. He was very lucky to come out unscathed. I'm sure there was something recently about a govt decision to introduce it to the vaccination program? Might be wrong.

Gerry poor dd, that's miserable, and not too great for you either. Get well soon!

Thanks everyone for the comments on vaccines. I got no further than ringing the local GP to see if they could tell me where to go for these today, and of course they couldn't. In fact the tone more or less told me where to go in another sense . It's been an entirely nap free day today, which is why I have got nothing other than the bare minimum of anything done. The upside, the toddler will very shortly be asleep. DH has just taken her up, and she was so tired she got into her sleep bag by herself, and just lay down waiting to be zipped up. That never happens!

Stormy I can guarantee the landlord won't check the toilet. If they do they are really quite odd. All they care about is damage and damp.

Much as I'd love to chat I have an awful lot of stuff to catch up on, and two dogs to exercise, so it's good night from me.

Last time, the landlord (or rather, the agent) noted hairs in the plug, limescale in the loo, and an uncut lawn. It was December! Who cuts their lawn in December? At least I have been reminded of how to clean a toilet properly now, and will be adding a big bottle of coke to tomorrow's shopping list.

Stormy stick some biological washing powder/tablet down to loo, give it a stir and leave it overnight. It'll be sparking tomorrow! I did mine last night!

Eco in response to the earlier question I'm still boobing too. We have bedtime (pre-bath) feed, middle of the night (sometime between 2.30-5) and an additional morning feed if the night feed is before 4.30. During the day if she goes for boob I distract her with games then a snack and offer a cup of milk (pointless). I went through a phase of really wanting to stop but I'm non-plussed now because I've missed both morning and evening feeds for various reasons and she's fine so it's not hurting either of us. If we get to Christmas without weaning though I'm going cold turkey after the turkey!

Doli I haven't quite figured out where to get the vaccines either but I assume private travel vaccine companies may well be a good bet. Private hospitals might be offering it too.

The houses of Yummy and Gerry and Plonk I hope you both have a speedy recovery and get some sleep tonight.

Pud I really resent paying for car stuff. Rubbish.

DH is on the way home and I'm off to cook wild mushroom pasta with no recipe and hoping for the best. Wish me luck and the spirit of Plonky the wonder-cook!

Cross post Stormy....I'd forgotten the coke trick too!

Hi loves too tired to post properly, in bed! Yummy here's to better nights...and hope all poorly babies/ poorly teeth are better soon I'll catch up properly tomorrow.

Can I come to yours for dinner Betty? Sounds delicious.

Ooh cleaning tips. Really need to sort our downstairs toilet (unused by us, although the cats litter tray is in there so it has developed a disused mankiness) and a few other bits. We rent directly from our distant landlord who seems to be in ill health. Therefore we've not had an inspection in about 20 months. We have two tiles off in the shower, wallpaper peeling in the bedroom and a somewhat worrying crack in the garage wall (subsidence) but that toilet tip will make a bit of difference.

Just realised I now sound like a total slob. I'm not, promise!

Gerry sorry to hear you've had a time of it. Ds is still a reasonably happy chap, just grisly from time to time. And trying to bite his pox. Hmm. Like a puppy. How long have they lasted with dd? He's already going crusty so I'm crossing everything probably in vain that it's a flash in the pan type affair.

Despite a crumbly house and a crusty child I'm feeling very positive at the moment and I've not even had any wine. We've had some bad news today about a relatives pregnancy that made me hug ds all the tighter, laugh at his silly loveliness and take stock of all the good things in my life. 2014 is shaping up to be a pretty amazing year, and actually I think that's in no small part due to you wonderful sexy bastards. You each bring a little something to this thread, and you've all, in different ways, helped me out of a rather dark winter.

So thank you.

Ahem.

Just a quickie.....

Just wanted to say Plonky what a lovely post. We love being your sexy Bastards. Also, you brighten our days immensely too.

And it's not even Friday.

X

(awake due to eczema on my fingers. Pain. Just updating it then hoping for it to ease and sleep to return. Sounds silly. It's not silly. It's a boring pain in the knuckle arse)

I am not updating my eczema. I don't know what that is. I am treating it. Illiterate Bastard more like plonk.

But it was 4am Eco. I reckon not being to control auto text at that time of day is probably true sexy bastard material.

Glad you're feeling good Plonk though so sorry to hear of the news which had you counting your blessings.

plonk you do know it's only Tuesday don't you? Good thing us sexy bastards can ignore your flagrant disregard of the rules of overfamiliar Friday (thou shalt not be too friendly like a nethun except for on Fridays) at least you didn't 'thanks hon xxx' at the end

So sorry to hear that you got bad news. Life can be cruel sometimes.

We've been spotty for a week, think that by tomorrow she won't be contagious anymore. Luckily our childminder is still happy to have her as all of her other charges have already had it.

Straw poll- would you let DH/P go somewhere a bit dangerous for a month at quadruple pay? FCO advise against all but essential travel, but the nature of his job means that he would be relatively safe (travelling with ex SAS, not doing anything high profile like oil, doing something that helps instead of exploits the locals) I feel I'm more keen for him to go than he is, which makes me feel like a money grabbing bitch, but it's not that, it's just he's much more risk averse than me and I tend to assume everything will be ok!

Depends what constitutes "a bit dangerous", Gerry. And any job anywhere can be dangerous. Even your job, as we saw yesterday. Where would he be going?

Think North Africa, had a pretty famous guy in charge for a while, then had a revolution/big old civil war that NATO was actually interested in intervening in. He'd be clearing up after said war, but that's not quite as dangerous as it sounds. Sorry for being vague, I'd happily tell you all but don't really want it to come up on a search!! Also would out me pretty quickly as his job is pretty specialised!

Well I might've gone a bit gushy, but I am certainly not a hun, merely pleased with the state of my status quo. And we've just booked our holiday. I'll demonstrate this right now through creative language.

DS decided to wake at 3 (so we fared better than I expected). We gave baby nurofen, calamine lotion (urgh) and bastard milk. He still wouldn't settle. DP decamped to the spare bed, lucky git. DS decided that what he really wanted to do, now at 4am, was play with the shitting Dalek figurine. FOR AN HOUR.

Hope the eczema's calmed down some, eco. I hate eczema now. It is the worst thing ever. Worse even than poonamis.

Gerry we have to take a full week off nursery. Ho hum, I hate paying for services not received! Maybe I should defect to a childminder...

Work wise I would want to know what safeguards the company has in place. If they are satisfactory then hell yes, go. But be mindful that maybe he's worried about missing his gorgeous wife and daughter - a month is a long time for a bloke with a young family. FWIW DP works for a company that provides cheap and fast construction - so they're currently working in a lot of squeaky bum type places, and I think they're currently trying to get a contract in Iraq. Like Stormy says every job has its dangers, and I'd have a lot of reservations if DP were asked to go to somewhere like a place that may or may not rhyme with Beepit or Gribbia. But I know folk who wouldn't think twice.

Day in for us I think. DS has turned into a barnacle baby, but we may venture out for a walk to save my sanity.

Gerry i'd find out if he really wants to go first. If he's up for it, make sure he knows you love him and will miss him. If he doesn't, tell him the same thing. This country can be dangerous on some days (esp in Tesco car parks) so if he's got support and 'protection' then i'd say he was relatively safe.

Eco I feel for your hands - I have criminally dry, chapped hands, to which I liberally apply Body Shop hemp hand stuff but I too have woken up to itch them. They look like the skin of an elephant now Add to that ganglion cysts on both wrists and it appears some 80 year old has swapped hands with me...

Happy troublesome Tuesday x