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March 2013 time for shoes!

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Plonkysaurus · 21/02/2014 17:18

New thread ladies...

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Anypants · 23/04/2014 15:51

Forgot to mention shoes - what with the walking, been a little negligent in not getting DD measured yet but have bought a pair of £3 jelly sandals so she can wander round the garden safely. She loves them and I don't care if they don't fit in a week as they were so cheap! When I feel confident tgat she can walk around without falling over on pavement (ouch) i'll get proper shoes. Had a look in Next and they have nice ones with proper support and only £18 Smile

StormyBrid · 23/04/2014 19:44

Good to know how cheap they are, Any! I'll definitely check Next when DD needs shoes and her grandma isn't around. £18 is doable. £32 for a tiny pair that'll be outgrown in two weeks is enough to make me need a cup of tea and a sit down to recover from the shock.

We seem to be tackling talking about the future from opposite sides. Re potential baby #2, he says we can't afford it so no point discussing it. I say we should decide in principle whether we would like another or not, and if we decide we would, then we look to see if the finances can be made to work. And actually, they can. If I can find a job that fits round his so we've no childcare costs, if we both worked twenty four hours a week at national minimum wage, we'd bring in nearly eighteen hundred quid a month. Which is plenty, considering we were managing okay on twelve hundred when he was working full time. If we had two kids, extra child benefit etc means we'd have two grand a month - totally doable, we could even move somewhere bigger. I know it's a lot of ifs and nothing concrete just yet, but it's a goal to aim for, surely? But he's being all doom and gloom and pessimism.

yummychocolate · 23/04/2014 20:01

stormy that does seem doable especially if the rents are low in hull. Not like the crazy prices in London. I think if you could both start work, do a trial run of your new routine and save a bit each month maybe dp will feel more confident in trying for baby 2.

StormyBrid · 23/04/2014 20:08

Rents are totally low here - to rent a reasonably sized three bedroom place with a decent bit of garden, in a nice area, it's about £550 pcm. Two bed terraces range from £325 for an absolute shit pit to £450 for somewhere beautifully kept. I saw a thread on here once asking "what would £1m buy in your area?" According to rightmove: nothing. There are no such expensive properties here. How anyone copes in London is beyond me. Rent alone seems to be more than one person on NMW can earn. I'm actually baffled by it, because surely there are loads of people on minimum wage in London? Where do they all live?

BettyOff · 23/04/2014 22:03

Quickly nipping in to say Plonk I've been browsing Mudderella and I'm up for it!

Plonkysaurus · 23/04/2014 22:23

Yes Betty! Join us! If you sign up you can find our team (named by Something). We are Scrambled Eggs and Achin'.

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Plonkysaurus · 23/04/2014 22:24

Ahem.

Scrambled Legs and Achin'.

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somethingbeginningwith · 23/04/2014 23:51

Yey betty I'm signing up next week. DP, the fitness fanatic, is taking me shopping tomorrow to "kit me up". I'm frightened.

DS is size 5g! They're huge compared to your teeny tootsied ones! Maybe he'll be joining us for Mudderella with those clompers.

dolicapax · 24/04/2014 12:01

I'm struggling to keep up here - you lot have certainly been busy!

Bon Courage for the mud run. I'd love to join you but it's just too far from me to make it doable.

Eco I think you solved your dilemma very sweetly. I don't really think it was your fault though. When your friend asked you to bring Ecotod's food, she should have let you know any restrictions, and given she didn't it was a bit precious to take the hump about an honest mistake. If it makes you feel any better I would have done exactly the same, been equally mortified, but probably gone home and had an almighty bitch about it!

Stormy if the man doesn't want any more dcs he doesn't want any more dcs. I suspect the money thing is a red herring. The kindest thing you can do is accept that and make life decisions with that in mind. I've been on the other side of this, it sucked, and no amount of talking about it was going to change my mind.

Feet are a 4f here, which seems almost square to me as I have never been wider than a C myself. She is definitely her father's child. The only bit of genetic makeup I seemed to have passed on is my slightly deformed rib. Lucky girl!

And whilst I am here (Plonky look away now) can I have a bit of a wedding related rant? Since when has a Stag thought it ok to extend the Stag night from a beer fuelled night out to 4 fking days? Seriously. That's 2 days off work, flights, hotel, car hire, events, booze, food.... etc... or in layman's terms £1k excluding lost pay. I'm sorry but that just rude. About half of the guys going can probably afford that, but the others really can't, and then they've the wedding to go to as well. Do people not think anymore? Angry (Plonky* you can look back now... although you are far to nice to do anything that crass anyway...)

News for the day.... we have glass! Well half of it. Only 3 of the panes don't fit this time. That is not a joke. If anyone was wondering why British industry seems so uncompetitive, well I have a theory. Attention to detail Hmm

Shatteredmamma1 · 24/04/2014 13:32

worse we have similar here. three stag dos, two abroad! Ridiculous (he's not going on one of them) seems to be a theme though as it's happened in previous years. I agree it's insane.

eco and pud you're quiet? cantturn hope your DS is doing ok?

We don't know foot size here but I'm thinking quite large. When we finally get measured I will report back.

stormy good luck with the ongoing talks. Hope they go the way you want.

Pudtat · 24/04/2014 14:19

Still here just doing a good headless chicken impression. Back with DS to docs today for checkup and ear perforation looks to be healing well, and infection of foreskin under control - poor mite was crying every time he wee'd at the weekend Hmm. Otherwise she was pleased with growth and development and generally declared him lovely Grin.

Vaguely tempted by mud but chronic unfitness and addiction to chocolate distance makes me unsure.

Love to all.

ecofreckle · 24/04/2014 14:30

Stormy, yawp is one of my Dad's, as in "what yer yawping about?". He's from Hinkley in Leicestershire. They have quite the accent. Where's your Dad from? Maybe it's a generational thing. My papa is 75. Good to hear that you have worked through the financial forecast. I am hopeless at all of that. I find it brain explodingly frustrating which leads to us having weddings, house moves and babies without having done the maths properly. Irresponsible. But one generally shrinks or expands to fit ones means. Anyhow, if you can work and solve childcare with the scenario you suggest (regardless of DC2 or not) you sound sorted.

Ecotod was size 2 but is now a 3G. Fat feet like Daddy here too Doli.

Yummy/Betty whites white? Bleurghh....there's loads of chat about it on here. I can't really do most of it as it involves chemicals and ecotod and I are supersensitive. They generally seem to say 60 degrees with biological powder. We don't do that but we do line dry and the bleaching effect of sun is good. Yummy's tip about glowhite sounds worth exploring.

Hang on, baby who is supposed to be napping is yawping, back soon.

Plonky do you think early waking is to do with being a pesky baby or do to be criminally light mornings? That black out blind thing has done wonders. I think she might wake before 7 but she seems to sit and play quietly, like she knows the darkness means she needs to at least pretend to be asleep. BTW, how did you get on with shoe shopping? And, what is your boy wearing to your wedding? And, is 'looming' the right word?! Maybe 'excitedly close' would be better should dp ever see this thread Grin

Shattered, I like to be missed! Truth is my fecking shoulder is so painful that sitting at laptop or lying in bath with arm up are uncomfortable. Boo! Apparently, according to doc, I have over stretched the ligament that connects my clavicle to my corocoid process. This should heal on its own. WITHIN TWO WEEKS. Yuck. Flying solo without my man so getting in and out of cot/bath/car seat and driving/getting dressed are awesomely horrible. I might fester in my pjs until he comes home and not wash either of us Grin Back on the diclofenac so no wine for me this week. With regards puddings, 9 times out of 10 it is raw fruit here. We also offer natural full fat yoghurt, pancakes with maple/peaches, sugar free carrot cake which freezes in portions really well. The crumbles were mine. All mine! Didn't let the chunkster have any but it was served after her bedtime so that's ok. Apple sause goes down well here. It's like nectar. Chop apples without peeling or coring and add splash water, stew it and then push through a sieve. delicious and great for spiced apple sauce cake too! No neglect on the shoe front. We ended up getting them as she spends so long in her backpack that her feet were getting chilly since she grew out of her all in one that had boots on it too.

Something, kit you out? Trainers surely nowt else needed? Old joggers or shorts and any old t shirt will do no? Tell us what you got!

Doli, that stag sounds silly to me. I think you really have to be considerate of your fellow-partiers. 70% of my hens had babies under 1 year old and were skint from being on maternity leave. I hired a beautiful village hall and the babies and my nieces came. We made jewellery and papercrafty stuff for the wedding, with a take away curry and champagne at tea time. All done by 7! What does the bloke version of that look like? Perhaps a bit like my DH's....they all (10 or 11 of them) stayed in our terraced house at the time and did a pub crawl route they did whilst at uni. But his best man was from LA so not wildly considerate to him! But yeah, it's a load of hairy old bollocks if you ask me. I am pretty certain that wherever the location of such manly celebrations the manky outcome is pretty much the same. Hangovers all rounds, memory black spots and empty pockets. Thanks for support about my Passover debacle. If I had engaged by brain for a minute though it would have been obvious. Lesson learned!

Pud, poor poppet! Nasty set of symptoms. Glad he's on the mend. And distance-wise, I think it's 5 to 7km which is very fun-run-able with a few months of very low key training. If you did fancy it I'd have no doubt you'd be able to wibble around with me as we slither through the mud. I love chocolate too. It is very similar to mud and therefore logic says that's ok.

Any if you want parental solidarity, come to us lot. We're a good, honest, cross-section rather than an overly high concentration of vipers.

OK, shoulder killing and have friend and baby coming over for dinner so best go and put final touches to the food. It'll be nice to have some company. I find the dinner through to bedtime the hardest bit of the day when I'm on my own.

ecofreckle · 24/04/2014 14:33

I realise sauce is sauce not sause. No idea what sause is. I may go and google it.

StormyBrid · 24/04/2014 15:21

Infected foreskin? Am suddenly extra glad I had a girl! Although if she takes after me there will be the joy of thrush to look forward to, as I seem to be quite fungal.

3G feet here too! Fartypants likes trying to put her shoes on, but so far all she's figured out is the shoe needs to touch the foot. Putting the foot inside remains a mystery.

I'm very proud of myself at the moment. Despite the head wobbles and social anxiety and blind panic at the thought of work (I know, I know, but when you've never done it before it's a great big scary unknown) I have volunteered my services at a charity shop, so I will have some experience and a reference to put on my gaping hole of a CV. Trial shift on Tuesday.

As for babies. I'm 28. If we sort things out and get back together and play happy families, I'm not going to be able to just let go of the idea of another. So he'd have fifteen years of me bringing it up, trying to convince him, growing resentment... Not ideal. And we both recognise that sooner or later he'd crack and agree to it. Just like he did with the first one, and he loves her to bits. But. Difficult one.

Plonkysaurus · 24/04/2014 15:57

Doli we will have to come bother you dahn sahf for a mud run in the winter/spring. Wouldn't feel right without you there! Also been wondering if Gerry would be up for it. After jumping out of a plane it'll be a piece of pee.

And yay for some windows. The mind truly boggles though.

Stag wise, I think dp is having a rented cottage on the south coast and it's two nights with a few things planned. His best men (yup, 2 of them) organised it. I've no idea what my hen involves, pretty sure I'm getting kidnapped by my nearest and dearest, and if I catch a even a sniff of an L-plate I'm off. Like Eco my hens are all pregnant and/or mummies so something similar would be lovely.

Eco your shoulder sounds so painful! Diclofenac is goooood. Wishing a speedy recovery. What's for tea?

Stormy you're right, there's no rush for number two. Enjoy dd and revisit the issue from time to time. And volunteering is a great way to end the cv gap. I volunteered at a housing association for vulnerable adults (victims of dv, addiction etc) and I loved it. If I'd been able to afford to stick around I'd be in Yummys line of work. Good luck with it, I'm sure you'll fit right in.

Pud! join in! I think we'll all be a bit wobbly but that's the point of a team eh? Hope ds feels better soon, infected foreskin sounds horrid.

Shoes...well the tiny start rite stockist in my quaint wee town doesn't stock anything 'wide'. We're 3.5G so off to an outlet in the morning.

I've just been for a swim and I technically don't have to fetch ds for awhile yet. WIBU to go for a coffee on my own before enduring the adorable yelping and demands of pfb? I do deserve it after all Grin

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StormyBrid · 24/04/2014 16:18

It's a gorgeous day, Plonk, my advice is find a beer garden instead!

Plonkysaurus · 24/04/2014 16:27

It did cross my mind but I don't think I can rock up to the nursery half cut!

I'm enjoying a picnic (oatcakes,raisins, latte) in the memorial gardens. It's delicious.

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yummychocolate · 24/04/2014 19:10

pud infected foreskin sounds horrid. Hope he gets better soon.

stormy congratulations on the volunteering. A relative started off volunteering and she was offered a job, so you never know.

eco hope your shoulder gets better quicker than 2 weeks.

doli yay to glass.

Im thinking about sleep training as of saturday. I really need to stop the night feed but im so scared. Im scared of him crying and not settling and both of us being sleep deprived zombies. Also, what if he is waking up because he really wants milk and im starving him.

plonky who knows we could've worked in the same team. If things turned out different for me I would have been doing gerry's job.

Shatteredmamma1 · 24/04/2014 20:04

yummy you can do it. He's way past needing milk ( wanting it is different!!) you just have to be strong and both on board with it. dH did it here, first 2 nights fine then one really bad night- but sleeps through except when poorly/teething since. Not that I've jinxed that now!! Good luck .

eco shoulder sounds sore. Was it baby related? Hope it gets better asap. Thanks for the pud ideas too.

Mmr tomorrow...

Shatteredmamma1 · 24/04/2014 20:06

Ps pud hope DS better asap.
stormy you say you've never worked? How come? hope volunteering goes well.

dolicapax · 24/04/2014 20:36

Stormy you absolutely should be proud of yourself. That's massive Smile! Volunteering is a brilliant first step to a job, and a job is so much more than just a pay cheque. Good luck.

Pud I don't even want to think how sore that must be. I thought girls drew the short straw with all things medical, but actually, I'm not so sure now.

Eco ouch, nasty. Tendons I know about, having torn various ones doing various sports over the years. You probably know all this stuff already, but if not here's the fool proof way to speed recovery.

Stretch the damaged tendon regularly, without any weight on it, particularly after any form of exercise.

If you can get your thumb or knuckle on it, press really hard, and slide the pressure slowly down the tendon. Repeat until you have tears running down your face. This takes the tension out of it and stops the muscles round it going into spasm.

If no improvement after a week, go back to the doctor and ask for a physio referral. They'll use ultra sound as well as manipulation.

And now for the bad news. Two weeks is optimistic unless it is a minor strain. You're looking at 4-6 for a tear.

It must be a nightmare with DH away though, so ThanksBrewCakeWineetc. I find the evening shift the hardest as well, especially on the nights when she decides to stay up until after 10pm, as there is only so much walking round the house carrying two tea towels (her not me) I can tolerate of an evening. Speaking of which, are any other toddles completely unable to entertain the notion of walking anywhere unless they are carrying 2 objects? Preferably heavy objects.... like DH's boots. I just don't get the logic. I also don't get the logic of licking Aveeno off one's skin the second it is applied. It's not like it tastes nice I've tried it

Right, I must get the dogs to bed now or they will start barking at foxes, wake the toddle, pi55 off the neighbours and generally ruin my evening. That would never do.

StormyBrid · 24/04/2014 20:43

Long story, Shattered! I've had part time jobs. When I was taking my time getting my A Levels (four years, another long story involving teetering on the edge of a mental breakdown) I signed on, because you can get jobseekers if you're doing under sixteen hours in college (or you could back then, anyway) and I needed beer money. Jobcentre tried to put me on a course that clashed with my Philosophy exam, so I signed off, walked into a pub, asked for a job, and got one. Packed that in a few months later because the management were sexist knobs, and signed on again until I went to uni. Did a bit of work in a friend's dad's garden centre, did security at some football and rugby matches, but lived off student loans. Graduated into a recession with ongoing mental health issues. Jobs are a bit sparse around here at the best of times, so my chances of finding one were pretty minimal. Jobcentre advisor suggested going on ESA while I sorted my head out. Naturally, I failed the medical when it finally came round, because ATOS don't believe in mental health issues. Fortuitously, about that time I got eleven grand compensation for the cause of said mh issues. Found a decent counsellor after numerous attempts, got put on the Work Programme (which in my experience is a great way to make any mh issues worse). Met the man. Got pregnant quicker than I would've done if the threat of workfare hadn't been looming. Been doing the baby thing ever since.

Gerrythetootallgiraffeswife · 24/04/2014 20:57

Right. I've tried to catch up but I just can't do it. Not that you're not all fascinating and all, but, ya know, there's LOADS.

I've been lurking but have had very little of any interest to say. Think we're in a bit of a rut. But then today all the interesting things have come at once. Chickenpox, and walking. Luckily I think we've got off lightly on the pox, no fever or anything just the spots and not many of them yet. Also walking! Well, walking in the same way that buzz lightyear flies. "Falling with style". But she finds it completely hilarious when she manages it.

Shoes- we win the shoe size competition (it's mumsnet, it's always a competition!) 2.5H here. Which basically means they're wider than they are long. All clarks had we're 3H boys shoes, but they were I£10 in the sale, so jobs a goodun. The look the spotty teenager sales assistant gave me when I bought my daughter boys shoes though... Have to say, we're sticking to clarks here, but finding stuff on eBay. That allows me to be a shoe snob (the only snobbish part of me!) whilst still being a tightwad.

Right- a WWYD moment. Male colleague and friend has a wife who is 36 weeks pregnant and has never had chicken pox. Managed today to completely avoid each other, don't use same computers or anything. However, tomorrow we have a dept get together, he's meant to be going. I know cp is crazy contagious, should I offer not to go? To be clear, his wife isn't going so would be the chance of transmission from dd to me to him to her, he won't see dd, I won't see his wife. The get together is curling (yep, with the ice and the brooms!) so we'd be touching the same stuff! I've already paid but he hasn't, and he says he'll be late anyway. What's the etiquette on this one? I really want to go! Tell me it's his responsibility to not go? (Or Betty, tell me chicken pox isn't that contagious really, it'll be fine...)

StormyBrid · 24/04/2014 21:04

So far as I know, Gerry, if you and your colleague have both had chicken pox then it should be all good. If you're immune you won't get it do won't pass it on. But I'm not a doctor and I could be wrong. Is it doctor confirmed chicken pox? I thought DD might have it the other day because she had random little red spots all over the place, but the next day it was gone, so I'm putting it down to post-MMR weirdness.

Gerrythetootallgiraffeswife · 24/04/2014 21:21

Pharmacist confirmed, and whilst I was unsure this morning it now looks pretty classic, fluid filled blisters, definitely pox! I think it can be carried for a short period, I know that HR always inform pregnant women if a colleague's kids are poxy...