March 2013 time for shoes!

[Plonkysaurus]

New thread ladies...

Shattered means it's a bit quiet, like a deserted street with tumbleweed blowing down it.

The fault is partly down to me as although I've been lurking I have been too wiped out to post. I can't kick this chest infection. It honestly feels like my lungs are filling up, and my muscles have dissolved. I'm heading back to the dr first thing tomorrow to see if there is anything they can give me. I'm hoping there is as I have very long days without help this week.

Toddleworse on the other hand is finally improving. Yay! I'm so relieved. She also went for her first proper walk outside in her new shoes today. A proud moment for her and me and I may have got a little teary

Sorry not to name check. I'm going to bed. Will be back on form soon!

eco how have the primroses turned out? They sound tricky! What have you got planned?

worse first outdoor steps! So exciting. DM is taking us shopping for DS's soon. It's all going so fast.

We had our 7 month old niece with DS yesterday. It was really lovely and she wasn't her usual screechy self so that was a bonus. She's so tiny next to my ginormous toddler.

plonk I took a leaf out of your book today and braved the Calvin Klein cutoffs! I had to change to jeans when I went out because it dared to hail but still. Maybe one day I'll wear them outside. Perhaps not tomorrow if this chocolate and wine go straight to my hips!

Oh god, I give up on nights. DD wakes up, and she doesn't cry, she just whinges. Non-stop. If I go in and try to resettle her she screams blue murder. The only thing that makes her shut up and go back to sleep is milk. I can't keep feeding her in the middle of the night, I'm going to crack up if I don't get some sleep. What do I do?

I wish I knew Stormy, that's how
It's always been here and it's a killer. Someone much more useful will be along soon I'm sure!

Thanks worse hope you're better ASAP.

stormy we did CC in the end for night feeds- only thing that worked for us. Two ok nights and one bad one but then (touch wood) sleeping through. Now the early starts are a different thing!!

Well done on the mile aldan

Well done on the SR mile Aldan.

Worse, you have my sympathy. Hope they have a cunning plan for you. In the meantime, good old fashioned steam was quite briefly soothing. I have a throat with 2 grapes stuck in it, well that's what it feels like - where my glands usually but I can't possibly be about to be ill again?!?!?!?! I know that level of punctuation implies mental instability but on this issue that's fair enough

Soft play yesterday wiped DS out so much he had a 2h20 afternoon nap! Still has nasty cough though so not a great night for any of us.

Best go and get a cuppa - says its -1.7 out this morning, hard frost v pretty so need extra time to get to nusery/work to ensure no rushing on icy roads.

Stormy, if it's a growth spurt is there an argument for going with it - maybe a dream feed before you go to bed to see her through?

That sucks Stormy but like puddleduck says, it could be a growth spurt. In which case I would just go with it. Ds has phases like this and it's tough. But I figure that if I wake up starving or thirsty I can sort myself out, though I'd be pretty stressed out if I couldn't. You can offer water instead but in my experience that's just pissed him off more.

Worse I hope your doctor is good this morning!

Eco could you please send your mil here for housework purposes? They sound lovely. When do you have to be all packed by? I hope it goes smoothly.
The dress fits very well, but I'd like it taken up. I may have taken a few photos, I keep looking at them to appraise the dress.

Ds is ravenous this morning. A weetabix, half a banana and now munching down toast and throwing it at the cat. We had a call from our landlord yesterday to say he's selling the house. Well, putting it on the market in a month or two. Bummer as we're not going to be in a position to buy until September so may be joining Eco on the great double house move.

The silly thing is, we cut out night feeds months ago! Then we had two months of snot and it all went wrong. Last time she was less mobile, now she sits or stands up, and won't lie back down of her own accord. And she probably does need the milk, cos she won't eat during the day! Breakfast today she's had half a slice of toast. Which I had to tear up and put in her mouth one piece at a time because she won't feed herself it. Lunch - I'll be offering jarred food. It has to be entirely smooth or she spits it out, so the options are pureed fruit suitable for a baby who's just started solids, or yoghurt. As for tea... She simply will not pick up proper food and eat it. I really can't see the path from this point to eating real food.

Food has robe puréed here too. Otherwise he will suck it and then carefully use his teeth to scrape the offending lumps of his tongue. We use a lot of Ella's pouches as I simply cannot manage to blend everything at home. There are some things he'll eat - spaghetti hoops is one - but as they're about a weeks worth of salt and sugar in one go we don't have them often! I think more teeth will help, he only has the front 4 and chewing is hard. I figure we'llget their in the end. Oh and he insists on being spoon fed - he was better with a spoon at 7 m than now

Bloody autocorrect - can't even start! And their! God...

stormy thats always the way. We think we cracked it and have a good routine then illness or teething hits and its back to square one.

Two nights in a row ds wakes at 11 screaming the place down. After a dose of calpol he calms down. I think its his molars coming through. The top gums are bumpy.

Ive been lurking but not posting. Since starting work I have been exhausted. 8pm is my new bedtime.

We went to bounce and rhyme at the library. Big mistake. Ds screamed and tried to jump off my lap so he can toddle around.

eco after your mil visits plonky can she come to mine too. [Grin]

worse get better soon.

plonky what a bummer about having to move. Hope you find somewhere soon or you could be devious and put off potential buyers until the end of summer. Shhh you never heard this from me.

Stormy I'm not sure what you've tried food wise, but here the first foods she would eat with enthusiasm were cod cooked with potato, spinach and a cheese sauce, and cottage pie. I give the mince a bit of a blitz to break down the lumps, but otherwise both of those are soft enough mashed with a fork. Other than that I have no idea other than it might be teeth or that she is feeling a bit off colour. Toddleworse refuses all food when even slightly unwell.

Speaking of unwell, apparently I am really rather unwell myself. Whatever bug I have must be penicillin resistant as I have got worse not better. I can't breathe properly, it's scary. On the upside I have new antibiotics now so hopefully will be on the mend soon.

So everyone else I'll just have to wave for now, as dd is alseep so this is my time for a rest. God I feel old....!

She must've been teething or off colour non stop for six months... I keep waiting for the day she suddenly realises what food's all about but it never seems to come. Lunch was rejected in its entirety. Although she did steal some of the malt loaf I used to comfort myself afterwards. I threw some stuff in the slow cooker for tea but I don't know why I bothered, she won't eat any of it.

I feel for you Stormy. We have beige foods only still and nothing got or proper but at least it's something. She's been screaming blue murder in her cot for 35mins now while I've sat tying to reassure her. DH has just taken over. I'm not coping very well at the moment. Her sleep is getting worse and worse, her eating is shit, she's mega clingy and she starts nursery next week and I go back to work properly. I'm getting more exhausted and seem to have less reserves every day and DH and I are struggling at the moment. I've never felt less like I'm in a relationship rather than just co-parenting. I crave feeling happy but cat quite seem to reach it most of the time. I hope it's temporary. Thank you all for being here all the time and letting me have selfish rants. I'm sure you all support me a hell of a lot more than I do any supporting.

Oh dear, lots of rubbish days by the sound of things. Betty, is it worth getting the number of eco's sleep expert? She has worked wonders by all accounts, if it's making you so unhappy it's surely got to be worth trying to find the money from somewhere?

Plague has not yet left this house. We thought dd was on the mend as we had a vom-free day yesterday, although she still didn't eat much. Then today she was with mum while I was at work, was okish but a bit grumpy all day, got grumpier on the way home, then during her bedtime bottle arched her back, screamed in pain, and brought up the little she's eaten all day all over me, her, and the sofa. So that means sick every day since Thursday except yesterday. Only once a day but full stomach emptying situation.

Think I might take her to the drs tomorrow. I don't think it's a stomach bug as there's nothing happening the other end. I'm thinking worse might be right and it might be a throat thing. I'm still suffering with my throat too, mine has turned into a really painful dry cough that feels kind of... hot. Hmmm. Maybe I need to speak to the doc too!

Quite chilled out week ahead though, Wednesday is usually my busiest teaching day but our school is shut because of the strike. I'm in the wrong union so have to go in, but won't have to do any teaching so should be able to get loads done (or try to recover from this horrible lurgy!)

Anyway, sorry to take up so much space talking about vomit and general disgustingness. I'm off to bed I think.

Betty I know it sounds counter intuitive but starting nursery will really help, as baby peer pressure is a wonderful thing. When dd started she was the only baby who not under any circumstances eat off a spoon, or even eat full stop. After two sessions she literally just got it, and is now a really good eater. The nursery manager had told me eating with other babies would sort her out. I'd rolled my eyes in disbelief but it absolutely did. The other upside she'll come home exhausted and sleep for hours.

In the meantime could you book a baby sitter and have a night out? It sounds like you and DH need a bit time to relax.

Gerry the doctor sounds like a good plan. Get well soon both of you.

I had another good day aside from the not being able to breathe thing. Toddling is a wonderful thing. After a lengthy toddle round the garden dd was ravenous, so ate a huge lunch, and then fell into an exhausted 2 hour nap. I think you can guess my plan for tomorrow. Another walk!

Oh loves. We seem to have this communal crap time from time to time don't we? Thank heavens we have each other on here to share.

Worse we're all a bit worried about you up here in eco land. Is there any chance of dh or your lovely in laws helping a little? Sounds like you need a fat day time rest. I'm hoping these new drugs help. Keep us posted.

Gerry I have no wisdom on the mystery vomit but I'd not hesitate to take her to doc just to put your mind at rest. It must be making her feel wretched.

Bah! I typed that all ages ago and have lost my train of thought....except the use of the word train just made me remember plonky's dress. I loved taking illicit glimpses at the photo of me in my dress ahead of our wedding. Fun times. Your boy playing in the airer today on Facebook was cute

Can't bloody recall anything else I wanted to say to everyone else. I know there was something specific for shattered but will have to scroll and return another time.

This time last year my waters had broken, we'd been to cinema to pass time and to hospital to get checked over. We were in for a long night. I'm coming over a bit gerry thinking about it all. Hasn't it just totally flown by. That was all a YEAR ago. Bonkers.

We decamp to Bedfordshire tomorrow and dh started his new job today. It's been busy!

Plonky, with ref landlords, I agree with yummy. Poo timing on their part, could they be persuaded to wait for you? Private sale, no agent fees? Double move with toddler might suck a teeny bit. But doable and all part of life's rich tapestry.

Which reminds me, Betty, it does sound like you've patiently gone as far as is reasonable and that external help may be useful? Want to chat it over on phone? Pm me if you want my number.

Sorry for my crappy disjointed message everyone. I started it at half eight. No doubt massive cross posts....

I've just declared it bonus overfamiliar Tuesday so I can give big hugs to Worse and Betty and Gerry (and Cantturn if she's watching) and anyone else who would like one. Also stern mummy peering over glasses and reminders to go to docs for all mummies and babies who were dithering. This is no time to be a hero.

Right, best keep on keeping on. Charge!

Betty, I think it's probably normal to feel like co-parents rather than partners when you simply don't have time to devote to each other. All I can suggest is trying to carve out a bit of time for the two of you, even if it's just a few minutes' cuddling, or ten minutes of talking where no one's allowed to mention babies. So long as both of you know there'll be time to be a couple later, you'll get through.

So, DD surprised me at teatime. I ate one handed off my lap, and held her plate tightly with the other hand. She looked deeply suspicious, but she tried it! And this morning she demonstrated she can now climb onto the sofa. Must be all the practice climbing Mount Mummy paying off at last.

Mumsnetting in the gps waiting room. Thank goodness for 3G!

Pud I will take and return a hug. I'm waiting to get my coil fitted and I'm a tad nervous. So thank you.

Gerry I second Eco in saying I think I'd take ds to the dr for that too. Please don't feel you're wasting their time, you have a poorly baby and a bit of straightforward guidance does help in these circs, and hopefully that's all you'll need.

Glad you had a better day Worse, I hope you're feeling a bit of improvement. The toddle worse sounds like she's being delightful - makes me wonder if these babies know when we can't take any more acting up? Probably not, but ah well. Is there no chance of dh staying home to give you some proper rest?

Betty I have no advice but I do have some homemade damson gin, a cupboard full of choc and big cuddly arms for you. I would call Eco, and plan to spend a night out with dh.

Eco the house situation is less than perfect. We have no idea what figure the landlord would be after (across the street went for 115 last year, but no 7 is up for 180!) although our current house needs major work. Like you say, moving with a toddler might be a wee bit tricky, so ideally we'd move into somewhere newish with only cosmetic work needed.

Stormy I think of weaning as one step forward two steps back. If I were you I'd be tempted to draw a line under this and go back to basics. Start from the beginning. Personally I've found the less I stress and the more I offer blw style foods the happier ds is. I'm sure you've done all this so if I sound like a bore just tell me to bore off :)

Hope all went ok Plonk and you took your paracetamol beforehand.

Betty don't worry too much about nursery. She will be shattered enough to go bed earlier and have a longer sleeping cycle. also wake up at 3am to think its party time because she slept so early

Clingyness is unreal. I did very basic meals during this stage and did minimal housework. Ds was okish out and about. So distraction is key.

Re: relationship. Do what you need to do to survive. If you want to take half hour for partner time then do so. TBH I have been so tired lately I preferred to have that extra half hour asleep. It is either that or a grumpy wife.

plonky hope coil is ok for you. The fitting does not hurt at all.

gerry poor gerrytoddle. Hope the gp can have some answers.

does anyones dc cry so hard when you take something from them (that they are not supposed to have) or stop them from doing something (they should not be doing)? Im talking about full on sobbing and laying on the floor. Anyone walking in on this type of situation would have thought I had hit him. It's so embarrassing.

All went well thanks, fairly painless until an hour afterwards. I am treating myself a bit today.

Betty I meant to add, with food and nursery I think Worse is right again. DS can be a nightmare to feed at home, yet his nursery book is a record of finished meals and second helpings.

So. This house hunting thing. I think I should just get this one considering the stupendous view. In the middle of Derby.

So I poas mainly due to the exhaustion I had been experiencing recently and its negative. I feel but deep down I know its not the right timing.