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November 2012 - Babies are getting busy, busy, busy

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StuntNun · 02/10/2013 14:02

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YellowWellies · 12/10/2013 20:13

MM by the sound of that last house you'd not put anyone out from hours of cleaning for the viewing though so I shouldn't worry!!! Would you really consider HTB though? Moneybox made it sound a bit scary - it only lasts two years and then in theory folk will be dumped onto their lender's SVR after two years but no banks have yet signed up to be willing to take folks onto their SVRs after the two years are up. So folk could end up forced to sell or make a margin call and massively up their deposit Shock Not that I don't trust a word out of George Osborne's vote buying mouth!

Passmethecrisps · 12/10/2013 20:18

She is asleep! She finally seemed to settle at about 8:15 or so. She normally is asleep by about 7pm. She was mumping and moaning but would then launch into real cries. I tried not going in immediately to see if she calmed and then went in when she was clearly distressed. But then there was 'wahwahwahblahblah' which I think, roughly translated, meant "my dummy is out, I can't be bothered hunting for it and I am going to sing this song until you come in"

Anyway. In the grand scheme of sleep issues it is hardly the end of the world. She is asleep now and will likely stay so
Until the morning. Hardly a biggy.

I just fancied some rose, dinner and maybe a shag.

Passmethecrisps · 12/10/2013 20:22

Oh! And we are having having chicken Kiev in honour of our last trip here - I was 8 weeks pregnant and sobbed my heart out because DH had gone to the shop already and I decided I wanted chicken Kiev (never made it before) . He came back from shops armed with . . . Chicken Kiev ingredients! What a star!

YellowWellies · 12/10/2013 20:23

Kyz awesome work E on the steps! Smile I might have to eat my previous words as J might, might walk before Christmas. After climbing a massive flight of stairs yesterday today he's pulling himself up to standing and may cruise by his birthday. Ack I thought he was going to be an inert one. He'll probably stop now...

MM having thought about your situation I know when we sold we sadly couldn't have viewed an offer without an AIP in place as serious or proceedable. I think lots of vendors would be advised the same by their solicitors as its just too much risk. FC you get this job as it'll be much easier to update your AIP in employment than self employment. First Direct wanted to see three years of audited books to consider me and I've not been self employed that long - hence only DH's salary was used for the calcs. I can totally recommend them for mortgages they're amazing! Smile

GTbaby · 12/10/2013 20:30

Det how is o now? Sleeping. I blame everything on teething.

VQ hope the fam is feeling better.

H was better at him naps today. Not quite the suggested times. But those can be moved. We did 10-11 then 2-4. And he was ready for bed by 6.30. It was 7when sis took him up n he settled straight away. Makes a change. Also think he has got used to being at my mums. Is that a good enough reason to stay here?

Selfishly I need the peer supporters help.
My boobs feel empty. Totally soft and light. Nipples shields are not pooling any milk. Someone on the oct 13 thread mentioned same symptoms. Their midwife thinks may have an infection. She has sore stitches last few days.
After midwife saying I may have infection. I'm wondering if the suspected infection may be infecting my supply.
Frustrating.
Going to bed after this feed. But suspect it might take a few hours.

YellowWellies · 12/10/2013 20:45

GT The empty feeling can just be that your boobs are now making enough milk for A and aren't in 'mad newborn supply building stage'. Once you're out of the early days they stop getting engorged and leaking. My boobs never feel heavy with milk anymore.

Pass awww for sentimental chicken Kiev Grin .

Passmethecrisps · 12/10/2013 20:49

Hooray for steps kyz!! E is such a piece of awesome

The mortgage chat makes me realise just how lucky we were. Bought our first place courtesy of the subprime mortgage deals which were all the rage back then. Thankfully I am in very steady employment and it has all worked out this far. However, it is a long term plan which may take another decade or two to actually pull together. Still wouldn't have been possible without risk taking lenders and is evidence that money makes money.

Passmethecrisps · 12/10/2013 20:50

The chicken was delicious. Didn't taste quite like the nectar I recall but very lovely indeed. Makes me both hanker a bit and be glad I am not 8 weeks pregnant and completely irrational

ChasingDaisy · 12/10/2013 21:07

Ugh. 'The other woman' met O today. This is the girl who is XP's new 'friend'. There were rumours about them before we split up and two weeks after we split up he asked if she could move into our flat as her partner had beat her up Hmm She doesn't see her own kids and I don't trust her one little bit. I told XP that under no circumstances is she to see O. Apparently today she had lunch out with them. Anyone looking at them would have thought she was his mum. I feel sick. Actually, physically sick. I have sent her a bitchy message telling her to keep away from O which was slightly cathartic.

PurplePidjin · 12/10/2013 21:16

GT stress affects things, but not necessarily that drastically. I fed all through dp's stroke, remember, and people succeed through far worse than that. Eat well, drink plenty, rest up. If staying at your mum's is best, do that. Getting help from a peer supporter is not selfish it's why they trained, they'll get a warm fuzzy feeling from helping you that makes it worth while Thanks

R rejected fish fingers tonight in favour of risotto. Not, like, soft Annabel Karmel risotto. Pumpkin and courgette spicy risotto. With all spice. And cumin. And fuckloads of garlic Hmm i should've given him jerk salmon too selfishly saved that for my dinner ah well! I'll have to make it again there's 3/4 of a bloody pumpkin left in my fridge!

He's also been wakeful the last couple of evenings, but down and stayed there tonight. No apparent reaction to my hot choc...

PurplePidjin · 12/10/2013 21:18

Get to court, Chasing he won't respect you, this is just another thing hell wave in front of your face as part of a pathetic power game

ChasingDaisy · 12/10/2013 21:21

Oh I know he won't listen to a word I say. I don't trust a word of what he says. Of course he has played the 'it is all your fault I was violent' card and trying to make me believe that I am the unreasonable one. Apparently I am 'playing the victim' Hmm. He's a twat. Hate is a strong word...

PurplePidjin · 12/10/2013 21:55

Sometimes it's the right one. Cuntweasel, twatbadger, arsegiraffe and fuckermadillo are also strong words.

GTbaby · 12/10/2013 21:56

Thanks YW. Maybe my body is just sorting itself out.
Pp I don't feel stressed out tbh. Although maybe I come across that way here. My family are helping. Although it pisses me off when they don't tidy up. By this I mean my sis doesn't put away her letters as soon as she opens them. Lol
But seriously I can sit on my feeding spot on the sofa (which has no table within reach ) and everyone quite happily passes me food and water when needed. They hold A for me while I adjust clothing.
I know it's not Thursday. But I am very thankful to have them help me. I know I wouldn't be bf still if it wasn't for them.

Right. I think we have finished our last feed of the day. Hope I won't be woken until 2 at the earliest Wink

GTbaby · 12/10/2013 22:24

Wishful thinking Confused

Elizadoesdolittle · 12/10/2013 23:13

Milk haters hide away now....I once left a glass of milk in my hall way for weeks to see if it would turn into cheese.
Disclaimer: I was young, but old enough to know better. Gross!

chasing Perhaps it is time to get proper arrangements in place for xp's visitation rights (if that's what they're called). When my friends xp shacked up with another woman she got a court order in place that her DD wasn't allowed to go near this woman. I'm not sure how easy it is to get (knowing our legal system I suspect not very) but it can be done. I fear you have to tread carefully. whilst sending her a meassage has made you feel good short term it could back fire. It could make her more determinded to undermine your wishes as she knows how much it winds you up. Sorry, I don't want to worry you but just want to highlight that you may need to get things official.

kyz Yay for first steps. E is a clever boy, and a very handsome one too.

I'm knackered but it's all my own doing. I'm terrible at going to bed when DH isn't here to tell me. I haven't been in bed before 1am since Tuesday night. Ridiculous.

PetiteRaleuse · 13/10/2013 00:16

Wow well done little E. kyz you must be v proud :)

Bit confused over the dog walking. Do you guys get advised to leave it til after the second jabs? We're told pups can go out after the first and even then as long as they aren't in contact with non innoculated dogs or prey they are ok. Another thing we do differently. My dog was an angel on the lead at first. We almost had to drag him along. Then he hit adolescence. He now has a fab pain free harness as with my back I can't cope with being walked by him.

First raclette of the season. Yum. And there's more for tomorrow. Yay.

Glad you're better vq

I need those ikea chairs.

Need.

We had a couple of friends over for dinner tonight. DD1 was fab, ate with us and pushed off to bed at around 10. LO, who is normally tucked up by 8, stayed up til midnight. She had never met our guests before, but was OK with them from a distance. But she just wanted to be in the party. Standing up and dancing to the music. Ate more than half the food on ly plate. Was majorly farting after cheese and baked spud and raspberry mousse overload...

It's now after one but after the stress of preparing the easiest dinner in the world including a bought pudding I am as awake as I could be.

Oh, chasing I would strongly advise you to go to the CAB or go on the legal boards on here and get advice. Do NOT have any more direct contact with XP's new GF. And hate IS a strong word but because of its strength it is usually a temporary one. If you still hate him in a few years then it's an issue. But feel free to hate him now. Just keep it to yourself, and by that I mean to yourself and the quiche. Allow hate to become indifference. It will, in time. I would also suggest moving away from an amicable agreement to a court based settlement. (((Hugs)))

LO will be one a week today. I'm still in two minds if she will walk before Xmas. The nursery staff have a bet on. I'd bet against Ms Shouty but she knows LO as well as I do and reckons it will be early December that she walks independently.

ChasingDaisy · 13/10/2013 00:47

I know I acted irrationally tonight. I hate how I act when it comes to him Sad But yes, I do need to think about a court based arrangement. It is just hard to know what is best for Oscar.

PetiteRaleuse · 13/10/2013 00:59

It's OK. don't worry about what you have done, it's done. She is not the bad person here, though that might not be what you want to hear. Your issue is with XP. So focus your anger on him. And think about the best possible arrangement for O. Will XP put him in danger? Can you trust him with O? Do you trust his judgement with who he introduces to O? I'm thinking the answers will be no, yes, yes/no. But an official order light be worth looking into. Get some advice; sometimes having someone else making rules can be a good thing. But get advice before even considering talking to him about it. And be honest with your advisors, 100%. If you think he can use something against you, tell them. You will win this, you will be ok. BTW, is he paying you something already? I hope he is...

PetiteRaleuse · 13/10/2013 01:00

Oh, and lists. You know what I mean. Lists on lovely new pages, fors and againsts of everything; lists of what you want, what you don't, what you need.

ChasingDaisy · 13/10/2013 01:07

Yes, lists will help me unjumble my thoughts.

He is paying me £20/week Hmm Half of what CSA say he should be paying. He will use my depression against me. Or try to at least.

PetiteRaleuse · 13/10/2013 01:22

Ok. Then that is what you need to work on. Not your depression (though you are doing really well with that) but how you can show that you have taken steps to work on it. I'm sure someone in quiche or without can help.

Now, try and sleep. We will do much better with sleep. Tomorrow you will have a different perspective on it.

ChasingDaisy · 13/10/2013 06:59

Thanks PR

MadameGazelleIsMyMum · 13/10/2013 09:25

Morning! Massive hangover here after a wedding which may have featured jeagerbombs and a massive hotel bar bill. DC woke us at 5am and I have a banging headache but my DM has taken them out now so there is some peace.

Wedding was fab but massively marred by one of the guests collapsing and needing CPR during the breakfast. It was fucking awful. We all filed out silently and sat in the bar v glum. The ambulance came quickly but they were still doing resus as he was wheeled out if the hotel.

The B&G wanted to continue the day so we did. We found out later he died. Sad

They amazingly managed to carry on but with a slightly odd atmosphere as you can imagine. But the evening picked up and we managed to really party. But was a rolletcoaster of emotions and I am hungover and drained now.

Passmethecrisps · 13/10/2013 10:06

Oh my word madam! Not surprised there was an odd atmosphere. Last family wedding I was at - bar my own - the groom's dad collapsed at the start of the dancing. My cousin (the bride) is a nurse so there were half a dozen nurses there taking it in turns to give CPR. Sadly he was dead before the ambulance arrived. Amazingly the hotel staff cleared tables round about this happening and unceremoniously dumped people's belongings in a pile at the door! We had all left like you but there was nowhere else for us to go. Awful. I am glad you all managed to keep the party going.

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