November 2012 - Teeth? Don't talk to us about teeth.

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1826507-November-2012-To-sterilise-or-not-to-sterilise-bottles-that-is

[ChasingDaisy]

I chat with lily and detective in the evenings which really helps. I think I am starting to feel a bit like izzy did with all the talk of good sleeping and eating, but for me it is family life. I am going to go to bed soon in the hope that I feel less muddled in the morning.

[ValiumQueen]

Chasing perhaps if you looked at it from the angle of being needed rather than trapped? I guess it amounts to the same thing though really.

J has had a better day and even self settled in his cot for his nap which is amazing. His skin is the clearest it has ever been. I have never cut out soy before. Could it be helping? please God it is!

[PetiteRaleuse]

Fingers crossed vq

Shitty day today.

Night quiche.

[Passmethecrisps]

Night night PR.

[MsJupiterJones]

I am just reading that party thread too. Awful!

Does anyone else worry that their baby won't have friends at nursery or school or am I just crazy & have read too much MN? My mum sent a picture from a playgroup on Fri and L was sitting on his own while some toddlers were together at the edge of the shot. It was only a snapshot and I'm sure he was fine but it tugged on my heartstrings. The idea of him being rejected, bullied or excluded makes me feel sick.

Well after our first good night in ages, L has had the grumpiest day ever. Screamed and screamed and grizzled and then screamed again. Wouldn't let me leave him for a second, didn't nap, got tireder and grumpier all day. Doesn't help that he is trying to stand and having lots of little bumps. DH is away for the weekend & I've never appreciated him more (I'm not even going to compare it to those who have absent or unhelpful DPs but honestly, nuff respec - that goes without saying). I rarely lose patience but I was slightly frayed today. Need to clear up the massive mess in the kitchen but feel like just falling asleep on the sofa!

[ChasingDaisy]

Yep, being needed is causing the feeling trapped. I think today I just got a glimpse of what life could have been like for me and what I am now missing out on. I am feeling very bitter and sorry for myself.

[MsJupiterJones]

Sometimes when nice things happen they do make us sad for that very reason Chasing. It is fair enough to feel sad and bitter about the shit you have been put through. You don't have to put on a brave face or look on the bright side all the time and not with the quiche. Keep chatting to Lily & Det and the rest of us xx

[Passmethecrisps]

Let yourself feel it chasing. You are entitled to feel bitter and angry. You are a very beautiful, bright young woman who has been emotionally and physically trodden on.

However, you have balls of steel even if you can't let yourself believe that yet. You are building the foundations of a wonderful life which will again contain flirting and dating and drunken shagging and tender moments and happy times.

It will just take time. You deserve to feel fucking angry - you were wronged.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Hugs chasing I can empathise with the regrets thing as I often feel so regretful and a stupid weak fool for marrying my ex H but I have my wonderful daughters. I don't know if I will ever move on from that contradiction in my head, especially on low days when I miss my girls.

I am sure you will settle to your new life, I realise how hard it is with no family and friends as this was my life when I had DS1 and slowly I go there, I am an introvert with extrovert tendencies so by the time I left last week, 3 years in, I had some good friends. This time I have family here and no friends. I am going to take it slowly and make sure the ones I make are the right ones. I have you lot, I is ok.

Feeling a it worn out.

Xx

[Kyz]

Right. Fred.

No appointment yet, no idea what is asked either

Wow fatima that's impressive re the spoon feeding. E on the odd occasion manages to get the spoon end in his trap, but that is purely chance I reckon.

izzy e wouldn't touch veg at first but loves it now, j is doing fantastically :)

Bless pennie hope lo is better soon

Hey roloh nice to hear from you

eliza I really hope she gains a little before the next review! It would be lovely for her to not need the tube. Got everything crossed!

I would be rubbish at living alone, I think some of you are really very strong for coping in situations I know I could not. Big hugs. I couldn't imagine it being just me and e, god knows I love him more than anything in the world but I would just be so lonely.

chasing I'm not a patch on those lovely ladies but am about some evenings if you ever fancy an extra body to chat at

That's brill vq here's hoping you've found the culprit!

Night pr, hugs

jj I have similar fears but e doesn't go to nursery yet and school is further away. I am sure l has plenty of friends, and its good he can amuse himself :) sounds like a difficult day for you today, I hope you have a good night tonight to make up for it a little bit

chasing you're young and lovely and you can only go up from here :) you are amazeballs methinks

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Well I now have 2 sleeping babies, the tv to myself (catching up on Britian and Irelands next top model, my guilty secret, well that and 90210. I have a lot of crap on my sky planner) and the lap on so ready for a girlie evening, minus any other girls apart from you!

E is totally fine apart from not putting on weight. She isn't dehydrated, is pooing reguarly with plenty of wet nappies, drinks water out of a tommee tippee cup now which is also farily new, eats purees well and enjoys finger foods but tends to spit/sick up lumps, sleeps well and is happy apart from when DD1 throws her about and teething issues. And a strange thing is happening, she has started drinking from a bottle. Can't remember if I mentioned this in a previous post so won't witter on too much about that. She drinks milk fine from a cup in the morning so won't change that. Prob has 6/8ozs inc what she has on her brekkie. Then after lunch she won't take milk from a cup but appears she will from a bottle. About 4ozs this time. And then after dinner again cup is hit and miss so sometimes she has a bottle. Last night she had 40zs but when I went to check on her before I went to bed she had been sick, coffee granual type sick again. So tonight the most she took after dinner was 2ozs so will see what happens sickness wise tonight. I'm so confused, I can't just work her out. Oh and to add she has a bf first thing in the morning and last thing at night. Sometimes during the day but more often than not refeuse. I don't know whether to persist with the bottle or stop as it appears perhaps that is causing the sickness. I tried adding gaviscon to the bedtime bottle the other day but that came straight back up. I need to start writing down exactly what she has to ea t, when and in what form. Plus her meds. Sometimes she spits the ranitidine out so not sure how much she takes must get the spoon that stunt mentioned. The consultant said to reduce the ranitidine but I don't think she is ready. She seems to hiccup lots more than she used to and burps. Never did this when she was ng tube fed but she did before it went in. I don't expect any of you to have any miracle cues but it helps to write it all down. Perhaps I need to get her referred back to the consultant. We haven't been signed off, next seeing him in november but I expect I could get him to see her earlier if I cry lots! As the dietician doesn't seem worried about her health should I try and just get through the next 2 weeks as it is such a huge learning curve for the both of us and if I write everything little thing down perhaps we'll figure out a pattern/issue? Ah sorry, this has become a massive post about me. Wasn't supposed to be. Just not really had the time to post my issues lately and it seems I have a phew

pennie so sorry to hear about your troubles. Glad you are back home safely with lo.

chasing I hope you sleep well and are brighter in the morning.

Ah schuks, taken me so long to write this everyone is going to bed! Night pr

pass love the sound of your evening. Enjoy x

I think I have conjunctivities and am feeling quite hot and then cold. DH playing golf tomorrow and spent this afternoon with the inlaws so would feel bad about calling on them tomorrow. Hope a good sleep sorts me out. Think I have been burning the candle at both ends so totally my own fault. Got some quiet time coming up before a week in Derbyshire horsey terriority if I remember correctly. DH will be with us for that break so I should get some time to myself.

Think I have chewed your eyes off enough for now. Will go back and catch up with missed bits of the thread properly.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

jj i know what you mean. I think it is natural to just want them to be happy.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

kyz I knew I'd cross posts with you waves

On the subject of the 8 month check I was a bit worried about E as she seems to do very little, however they checked her pincer grip by putting a smartie on a table to make sure she could pick it up and then swiftly removed it before she stuffed it in her mouth, gave her a break in her left hand to see if she swapped it to the other hand which she did, asked if she sits unadied which is yes, asked if she moved which was a big fat nope and then weighed her and took her length and head circumfrance. Oh and gave her a couple of free books one of which we already had from DD1's review but beggers can't be choosers. So nothing taxing or to worry about.

[PetiteRaleuse]

What do they say about the coffee granules vomit eliza ?

[BigPigLittlePig]

Evening all.

Lovely day today, roaming through the woods near my house - found a lovely lily-pad covered lake pond, ate picked lots of blackberries and had Chinese for tea. Now struggling to breath as have eaten too much.

Chasing Could it be that the emotions/regret is the anger part of the grieving process? I know dh feels very angry/upset at times that he "wasted" so many years with his evil ex, and got himself embroiled in debt, trashed his credit rating, etc - but he has A out of it all, so of course it is worth it. As time passes, I hope you can come to some kind of peace with it all. I hope this comes across ok, and isn't offensive/patronising/whatever.

Pennie hope LO is ok, very sad about the baby for adoption

Izzy have a belated

Eliza I will have my fingers crossed that Es weight is ok in a fortnight - I suppose it is good she hasn't lost any. I still haven't weighed F for a few months - I should, as we're sort of guessing at the ranitidine dose. Another hiccupy baby here too, so think her dose needs to go up.

I haven't seen/heard from our HV since F was 4 months old. I had no idea they're supposed to have some kind of check!? Ah well, F seems fine. She can reverse crawl now [smug emoticon] - managed to get herself stuck under the coffee table earlier, silly moo. She is so scrumptious. On the subject of clothes - she is still in 3-6 months on the whole, with one 6-9 romper suit. And todays cardigan was a 0-3 month one...still cannot work out this sizing lark.

Early start tomorrow to do a car boot sale - loads of kids clothes (3 yrs worth of dsds stuff), toys, games etc, so am hoping to make a tidy bob....

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Bloody nothing stunt First time she did it I went straight to a&e (with the muslin cloth that she vommed all over) and saw a peadiatrician who said couldn't see anything wrong with her and was just one of those things! Then when I mentioned it again when we were in hospital they said it's prob to do with acid in the vomit but as she didn't do it whilst we were there they couldn't confirm. I haven't washed the sheet that she did it last night on yet (have changed the bedding I hasten to add!) so perhaps I'll keep that as evidence.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Oh sorry, that was to pr. I thought you'd gone to bed!

[MsJupiterJones]

Eliza I'm glad E is doing well and had a good check, but I'm sorry to hear that she hasn't put on weight and it is quite worrying about the coffee grounds vomit. I hope very much that she doesn't need the tube again. It does sound like with the hiccups and so on that she is having some trouble with digestion. Coffee grounds vomit can suggest an ulcer I believe? Poor thing, she has been through enough and so have you.

Glad you are enjoying your tv fest though!

[PetiteRaleuse]

I ask because coffee grounds vom is often digested blood. From an ulcer as jj says but I guess it could also be from some cut made by the tube? Without panicking (because it's not new blood) I would ask again next time you see a doctor. If it were urgent I think it would be red blood, not coffee ground stuff. But am only going on what the doctors told me about ulcers etc. I think to be sure they'd have to go look with a gastroscopy but obviously with a baby they might be hesitant. I wouldn't panic but would definitely flag it up with whichever hcp you see next.

I did go to bed. But got up again. Going to try again soon.

[BigPigLittlePig]

True "coffee ground" vomit = partially digested/old blood. From ulcers, gastritis (or inflammation), small tears, trauma. Dark brown vomit can just be from gastric stasis, or reflux of bile back into the stomach.

[BigPigLittlePig]

Caveat: that's in adults. Although I suspect kids are not that different on that particular front.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Thank you ladies. Now I'm not sure if it's coffee ground vomit or just dark brown. Its defo one of those. I will keep the sheet (or subsequent fresher ones if she does it again) and flag it up at the next check. It's certainly not fresh blood, I would major panic if that happened. It did once when she was a couple of days old, luckily the midwife was due that hour so no long term panicking required. Thank goodness E isn't my first as I would be beside myself. I take my hats off to all the mummies going through reflux and any other illness/condition and worry. What these babies put us through eh. Luckily they are all so scrummy .

[BigPigLittlePig]

Coffee grounds, you can literally see black grains as though you've emptied a cafetiere. Anything else is just dark vomit.

Apologies if anyone is eating whilst reading this I am but have the stomach of an ox after 9 yrs in the NHS

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Thanks bplp Will get sheet and study it. Yet again this quiche rocks. Your knowledge astounds me every time.

[BigPigLittlePig]

If someone had said to me, pre-motherhood, that I would study, really quite closely, nappy contents/vom/other unidentified substances, I wouldn't have believed them. Now it is a near daily occurence