October 2012... PELVIC FLOORS!

[Londonmrss]

Ready...
Steady...
And squeeze!

[Thechick]

Cava I did a baby resus course at my local sure start centre. It was free and we could take babies with us.

Dupain no teeth here but loads of drooling and chomping on hands and anything near his mouth. Dc1 didnt get teeth until 9 months so im hoping the same thing happens with LO. How sterile are you guys being with what they are chewing on. I have a Sophie and its not sterilised. It just gets rinsed in hot water every now and again and he was loving chewing on the end bit of a face cloth which prob isn't the most sterile of things.

I went to Westfields in shepherds bush yesterday and the family room is excellent. There are cubicles for feeding in with a comfy chair that has no arm rest so perfect for breastfeeding. There's a little table in there and another seat. The changing mat was vertical and concave so less of a risk of rolling and it was clean. There was even a microwave and a tv showing cartoons for the older ones.

[Woolybob]

Hello and welcome dupan and diamond! That sounds like a double act to me, ever thought of teaming up and going into the music biz?

I don't have a footmuff either, she was in carrycot most of winter and now just using pramsuit and a blanket. Will see how we go next winter but she's warm as toast at the moment.

chick I am pretty meticulous with her milk bottle and I wipe her changing mat with antibacterial wipes after a poo change (and wash it if poonami!) but other than that the odd rinse is all! Oh and all the food prep stuff goes in the dishwasher. My mil was that I didn't clean dd's library books before giving them to her...

On an unrelated note dd went 7pm till nearly 5am last night without a peep! Up 15 mins for nappy & feed and then down till 7.30. Best ever night. We were having 2/3 hourly wake ups a few weeks ago so I offer this as a ray of hope to those still in regression land. They can do it, it will pass!

[DuPainDuVinDuFromage]

woolybob!

We don't sterilise things either, apart from bottles obviously - Sophie gets dropped on the floor all the time and we just wash her (note dd is not called Sophie - we are talking giraffe here )

DD has been sleeping 10 hours straight nearly every night but last night she woke up 8 times between 9pm and 1am, then again at 4.30 and up at 6.15. Her poor little nose is all blocked up so I think she was having difficulty breathing . Fast asleep again now...

[Cavatina]

I only sterilise dummies once a week, everything else gets a wash/wipe. She is ebf so no bottles, but started puree two days ago for fun and do not sterilise cup/spoons either, just goes in the wash.

[slightlyroundthebend]

We sterilise bottles, wash dummies or diggles and teething toys as we call them in hot water, if I sterilised them after every time they're chucked on floor I'd be doing nothing else. Also no ds can grab stuff I would have to do every thing in the house! He's constantly sucking on any muslin cloth and uses them as a comforter so can really sterilise them. I'm kinda of opinion he needs a but of muck to get some immunity.
Shit night last night up every hr!!! Don't know what's that about as the night before was a dream night :) oh well praying to god of babies he was just a bit unsettled. I'm so tired of feeling either tired or poorly or both.
Need to get out exercising miss my running and in great north run this year so hopefully that would motivate me. Would normally do a bootcamp class tonight but so tired I can't be arsed = vicious circle.
On a brighter note it's sunny outside and new class to try this aft and my sister is visiting for the weekend tomorrow. She's recently found out she's prego after years of thinking it wouldn't happen SO excited for her :)
Right time for half a cuppa tea.....any one ever finish one these days?

[DuPainDuVinDuFromage]

That's lovely slightly, congratulations to your sister!

And good luck with the great north run - do you live up north?

[slightlyroundthebend]

I live in county Durham Dupain so not too far, I've done it before and loved it so thought it would be a nice way to get fit again :)

[DuPainDuVinDuFromage]

I live in Durham too! Maybe I know you...although I don't think so - I know people with older and younger babies but not the same age.

I'm very much not a runner but I keep meaning to go and stand at the end of the GNR and cheer on all my friends who do it!

[Kyyria]

roundthebend and dupain - whereabouts in co. Durham are you? I'm in Chester-le-Street.

[DuPainDuVinDuFromage]

I'm in Durham city. Nice to know there are fellow northerners on here!

[slightlyroundthebend]

I'm just out of Durham so we're really not far from each other :)

[Cavatina]

motherhood can be such a lonely place

[slightlyroundthebend]

You ok cava?

[Cavatina]

slighty thank you, just exhausted, sleep deprived, got the flu and had a huge argument with DP at 2am which is not the best time to argue anything. I used to suffer from depression and when I saw my GP a couple of weks ago he warned me about sleep deprivation causing depression and I can feel it creeping on me. I used to keep it at bay with exersise and we agreed with DP i should have couple of hours off three times a week for that but has not happened yet, DP also stresses as pb with his business so tired himself. I feel trapped and quite lonely (did not make any mum friends as worked until the last minute and no mates with young kids). And I miss my old life and old body. Not in a good place right now, so went to baby gap and spend money on lovely bits for babyCava, but she does not really need it. sigh

[Thechick]

cava can you state you are doing a b or c without the LO so he will have to do the looking after. Or let him know how you are feeling and that you need a couple of hours to yourself. Or do they do powerpramming in your area or baby yoga or does your gym have a crèche? I'm sorry you are feeling like this. I don't have any mum mates either but recently I've been going to groups and I enjoy getting out with the little one. Most of the groups are quite friendly.

[slightlyroundthebend]

Oh Cava I sympathise, before ds I was one of those couples that never really argued don't get me wrong we'd disagree on stuff but never fight. Fast forward to now and by god we have some disagreements! I've found from my part its a lot of resentment, he gets to sleep, he gets to get time by himself to go work, he has his social life and I quite often feel left behind. The other day he came downstairs and offered me a cuppa "I'll make I said" he insisted which made me shout at him that I am still perfectly capable if making a f*ing cup a tea would he just hold the baby. Well I felt such a cow afterwards but where I'm going here is you need your space, it's important.
Before ds I was a gym bunny spinning 4 times a week, bootcamp 3 times and would run. I have always struggled with my weight and got to a very toned size 10/12 and loved it. I knew this wouldn't continue one ds was born and told myself not to rush but like you exercise was my release and now I'm not getting it I think it's playing a large part in feeling down and a bit isolated. So we agreed 3 evenings a week I gym it. This worked for a bit till cold and cough got me waiting to get over that to start again currently a floppy size 14 which makes me feel down.
On subject of mum friends not many really I've made a few at baby sensory and one lady asked for my number so we meet for coffee but I often feel it's hard work and being back at school - where abouts are you cava have you tried any groups? Try to stay positive, I know it's so so hard but it must get better or people wouldn't have more than one kid no?
On that note my sister and brother in law are here it's raining but might take advantage and go for that first run of the year!!
Sorry for babble just want cava to know your not alone x x x

[Cavatina]

slightly, chick thank you for your kind words, it is true we have to work as a team and it is hard to change after years of not depending on each other for mundane stuff. I need to be more active, just agree on three times a week a couple of ours for myself, is not too much! I managed to sign up for baby sensory, it is so hard heere in London, everything gets booked up quickly! hope you are having a nice weekend, I am looking forward to the rugby, angry men with ni teeth chasing each other, whats not to like:) BTw slightly congrats on your sis!

[Thechick]

3 times a week is not too much at all, and your DP and LO should have their alone time anyways to build some type of relationship.

[smile4me]

Heya Cava sorry you're feeling a bit lonely and down. Sleep deprivation is just hell. Getting out and about to baby groups is definitely worth the effort (although it doesn't normally seem it 1st thing in the morning!) if for no other reason than to prove to yourself that everyone else is having the same problems as you! I was totally crap at making the effort to socialise pre-baby (could never get over the idea that people were just talking to me to be polite and might think I was just some crazy stalker if I invited them out for a coffee) but I would go insane now without other mums to talk to.

Babies are definitely a test of the ole relationship ay! Some DH's seem to expect life to carry on as if nothing has changed, maybe we are more accepting because we are superior we have had the whole body-parasitised-by-baby for 9 months thing already so have had to accept radical changes?

[Cavatina]

smiley you are so right! they do expect life to carry on as usual! I am feeling much better thank you all for your support, arranged to go out for a coupe of hours tonight very much looking forward tonit! and will go to baby yoga tomorrow. anyone done any "sleep training" ? I have been reading a lot about it but undecided which approach to take..

[Cavatina]

Interesting article about sleep deprived parents...
www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/mar/17/sleepless-nights-cause-divorce-baby

[Cavatina]

ghrrr still rubbish at posting... trying the link again

www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/mar/17/sleepless-nights-cause-divorce-baby

[Cavatina]

ayee chick you up at 2.30- hope you managed some sleep!

[slightlyroundthebend]

Tis very quiet on here, hope us newbies haven't scared everyone off :(

[Thechick]

It is very quiet!! Cava yes, my little one still wakes at least twice during the night. I use the time to catch up with mumsnet. I personally don't like the idea of sleep training if its the CIO approach. But I also believe you need to do what's right for you and your family. With ds1, he didn't sleep though until he was 2 so I have quite low expectations for ds2 when it comes to sleep. I'm being quite relaxed about it now but who knows how ill be when it's time to go back to work.