October 2011: Crawling, teething and (we hope) sleeping through

[Penelope1980]

Sorry guys - posted the 1000th message without realising , so hopefully you can all find this thread!

thanks, I had completely forgotten about the the object that is a portable potty. the tip about the car seat also much appreciated. The car seat isn't too bad as it is easily washed, but the buggy... so will definitely be using that.

Sometimes we mistake easier with easy, I know I've done that before.

I am only just getting to the point where I want to start doing things in the evening once a week to myself, it just seems like half the night is gone before you know it and you never get round to actually pre-planning something unless an external stimulus acts upon you.

pp it's good to get it all off your chest. Glad you are feeling better about things. Fingers crossed you get a better night tonight
pa potty training is what I'm dreading the most! Noticed from your photo link on fb that your dd name was one from my short list! Sometimes I wish id went with it. It's a lovely name. Maybe for my next dd....
Know what you mean by no time in evenings! I've put S to bed, put some shopping away, picked up some stuff from floors, had a shower and it's now 10pm! Heading to bed now though in attempt to catch a few extra hours from being awake since 4am...

sassy how old is your DD1? I must say, having teenagers is the one developmental stage I dread the most.

lookout your DC might get to celebrate another jubilee - William's! In many years time to be fair, but still ... (am assuming Charles won't reign for 60 years but you never know)

sassy. Sounds like you've got your hands full there!

Hi veeee come join us

eng how you doing today?

Forgotten who else said what but hope you are all ok.

W's internal alarm clock seems to be broken. He's woken at 6 practically on the dot for months but the last 3 days it's been 5.30 he's wearing me out during the day too as he just wants to be on his feet 'walking' the whole time and leering out a frustrated high pitched squeal if he isn't. My poor knees and arms where I have to follow him to keep him up.

Hi all, just flying in to ask for help - must get sleep but will try catch up later

Tonight I ditched the swaddle and put Leo down in a sleeping bag (asleep). Within 5 minutes he rolled onto his tummy. I would have left him but he was face down - not facing one side. I rolled him onto his side.

Should I worry? I am trying to get to sleep but feeling scared of him rolling again and sleeping with his face into the bed.

Thanks all!

Strawberry - do you have or can you borrow a jollyjumper/door bouncer? Leo loves being on his feet and the bouncer gives him a bit if freedom and exercise, and gives me a break.

Jessica sleeps on tummy too jnice. Can L roll back over? If so I wouldn't worry :)

Yes, he rolls all over when he's awake, it was just the way his face was down into the bed that worried me just being paranoid!

...thanks mama

Jnice - I thought the advice with DD1 was that if they could roll themselves they are fine to sleep on their tummys.

Thanks pink - I think I remember the same.

It's not going well tonight. I may have to go back to swaddling him.

jnice S sometimes goes face down when she is falling asleep but usually turned her head quickly. I will watch till she does. Good luck
sp yes broken here too! S was always up closer to 7am but started to get earlier and had been 6am for past few months. Yesterday it was 4am, and this morning 5.10am! I left her in cot till 6am as she was just chatting away. She had milk then managed to get her napping again for 30 mins. Not sure what else to try. Anytime after 7am I'm fine. I think it could be her lack of sleep in the day (she averages an hour all day, 2 x 30 mins) but has taken 3 sleeps recently due to bring awake so early!! Nightmare
pp how was your night?

I?m feeling better strawberry. AF is here and it seems my mini PMT induced, hormone fuelled meltdown seems to have passed. Last night I was sobbing on DHs shoulder saying how useless I felt, but also trying not to laugh at the same time because I know I only feel like this one day a month, and it?s totally hormone related. I makes me feel so ridiculous! I swear I didn?t use to get such bad PMT! Just felt like everything was too much, all of my teeny tiny problems were turned into mountains in my head, but have woken up this morning (blissfully late as M slept through til 8 instead of shouting at us from 6 for the first time for a few weeks) feeling ready for a new day.

Tucked M up nice and tight last night. The sleeping bag survived tucked in all night, but he STILL managed to turn himself over. Turned him when we went to bed last night, but face down again by morning!

DH was very sweet yesterday. I think he had a good cbt session in the afternoon so was in a fairly good mood. We cooked dinner/fed M together and in the evening watched New Year?s Eve (which is really not his kind of film, I know he?d rather watch something about aliens trying to take over the world). Feel good film, early night, lots of sleep, and even though it?s rainy and grey here this morning I?m feeling much sunnier.

PA , I know what you mean about external stimulus. I found it easier to get out and go running when I had a pre-arranged time with my running partner, but since our race she?s been training for a walking event (4 days back to back of walking 35k) and I just haven?t mustered up the enthusiasm to go outside and run in the evenings/Sunday morning, even though I know I?ll enjoy it once I?m outside.

lookout I feel a bit the same about all the jubilee stuff. I only saw snippets of the stuff during the day on Sunday and yesterday, and didn?t watch the concert, which my mum was going on about on the phone last night. As M grows up it?s really impt to me that he stays in touch with his British heritage, which I know is going to be more of a struggle because we?re not living in the UK. All of the Dutch traditions will be a given because he?ll be at a Dutch school, but I?m going to have to be the one actively organizing things linked to British culture.

Jnice I?m having the same problem with stomach sleeping. I think it?s a comfort thing. M has decided it?s how he?s comfortable. Am going to ask at hv appt today (my main worry is the helmet is meaning his face is getting a bit swollen after a whole night sleeping fce down). When I think about it, I don?t like sleeping on my back either!

reassuring to hear pp. He can def roll himself back.

I asked a health carer about stomach sleeping - she said it's fine if they have rolled themselves! I still don't like it, but am trying to relax a bit about it

Can't remember who said what but:

E sleeps on his tummy - it's how we got him out of the swaddle. He usually falls asleep with his arms by his sides, but often by the time i get to him he's woken and has rolled over onto his back. Today he had turned himself the other way around and was on his tummy at the foot of the cot!

We are having early wakings too, though this morning was a blissful 6.30am! But it has more often than not been 5-5.30 which is ungodly and should be outlawed.

Good idea bout the Jubilee on iplayer. Will have a browse and find something suitable/not too boring for him to have a squizz at. At least then I won't feel so unpatriotic.

PA It is the same here, a few times we dh weren't up to scratch in religiously putting creams on and within a day usually the eczema flares up really badly. We are now on a regime of steroid first thing before the feed, Diprobase at every nappy change, steroid after the long nap and Epaderm before bed. It's exhausting to keep up with but the alternative is not pleasant so I'm trying to get used to it as best i can.

E managed some porridge and a half pouch fruit this morning for breakfast . He took it from me from a spoon but he doesn't get the spoon thing, he sort of clamps it in his gums then inhales it off the spoon???!!! At least it's going down though. I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm gonna do mix of purees and finger foods, the BLW thing is just too much cause for constant stress for me!

Have a good day everyone. And ips good luck at the doc if you're going!

just back from hv who echoed what everyone else has said about sleeping on stomach - fine as long as he can roll back himsef. She didn't have any advice regarding swollen face from helmet/face sleeping though, so suggested we check at our next helmet appt that it won't have a detrimental effect on his head shape.

rain has finally stopped. dh out for his running therapy so have house just to me and M for a few hours (is it wrong that I REALLY look forward to Wednesday afternoon me time?!)

hope everyone is having a good day

fuzzy thanks, i love DD's name but still haven't got used to DS's yet.

I am a zombie today. Leo woke 6 times in his sleepingbag - was so close to going back to the miracle blanket!

Do they recover the ability to sleep? He was waking 2 or 3 times which was a dream compared to this!

Thanks everyone for the tummy sleeping advice. eng - hope you get some better advice from the specialist about the helmet and tummy sleeping.

we gave up halfway through the night with our de-swaddle attempt

we couldn't get him to sleep (i fed him in bed in the end and left him there after 2.5 hours) and and after the first waking we could get him to sleep but he would wake everytime he was put down.

engel i have no knowledge of puffy face's. Didn't want you to think I was ignoring but i tend to just post about stuff i can contribute to and actually remember.

Oh, I really feel for you both with your attempts at de-swaddling. We had four or five unsuccessful attempts (same as you guys, multiple night wakings, unable to fall asleep, lots and LOTS of crying) before it worked with E. I know how painful it is! Jnice how does L still fit in the miracle blanket?? That's what we were using and he should have stopped sleeping in it waaaaaay before he did it!

Have either of you tried tummy sleeping? That was seriously the only we did that worked. Oh and also scratch sleeves which means his arms still feel fairly enclosed and he can't scratch his itchy eczema head/face.

We came to the conclusion in the end that if he didn't transition easily, then he wasn't ready for it. And just kept him in the swaddle, trying to deswaddle every couple of weeks, until it finally worked. And when it did work, it was easy.

Good luck

lookout he doesn't really fit it it's torn from his kicking about and I just put one leg in and one out, he ends up with both legs out and is now completely escaping. I have a zipup thing too but he just flips over and can't turn himself back which I assume isn't safe.

I am putting him down asleep still, once he's used to sleeping in the grobag I will start trying to help him settle himself again (eeek!).

Fx for tonight!

DS's face started coming out all spotty today, I think it was the contact with the sling. (not the sling per-se but I think contact with 'dirty' fabrics (so when his blanket needed washing and he was in a vest/short his legs came up). I don't know, but it's always the exposed skin that comes up, his torso has always been fine.

I was thinking about tummy sleeping as he liked that as a newborn but think the putting him down on his front might wake him up. Will give it a go, but first we have to be able to get him to sleep in the first place without the swaddle. putting him down has always been the tricky bit, but i will stick to just the potty training for now.

we went and got a pottette thing although in the process I lugged her normal potty around sainsbury's and mothercare, both resulted in a wee (although the former was at least in the car park and in MC it wasn't that far to carry the potty to the toilet). Next step, playgroup

penguin one thing at a time sounds very sensible. Hope the rash goes down soon!

I have to wait until Leo is sound asleep, then I an get him down but I have to then hold his arms for a few minutes in the cot until he's relaxed again and in a deeper sleep.

Jnice we have a door bouncer and it works for a little while but then he wants to go and explore things and gets frustrated cos he can't move. He's developed a lovely high pitched squeal for when he's frustrated, I'm hearing a lot at the moment!

PA poor little thing, hope the rash clears up soon.

Back to a 6am wake up here this morning which is good. Bit more overcast though so not sure if the darker bedroom helped.

I feel terrible . Had just got S changed and went into bathroom to wash my hands. She was sitting on floor next to a wicker chair that's in her room. Come back and she was crying. Looked at her finger and one is cut and other has a small chunk taken out the end!! Must have been a jaggy bit . Is she to young for a plaster on it? My poor girl, it must be sore as she is just wimpering